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ket101 #181 Posted Jul 29 2019 - 11:32

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View PostHelpless, on Jul 29 2019 - 11:43, said:

u have not been reading his posts / threads......

he was global warming... now he's global cooling...

and on top of all that.... he's world ending meteors... solar flares.... earthquakes... economic collapse... alien take overs... pole flips... emps... global pandemics.....and pretty much every other end of the world scenario u can imagine....

so thats not exactly instilling calm.... is it???


Since the general public are panicking about warming, then cooling would calm things down, yes.  Other stuff is simply reporting what happens (okay, alien takeovers, not so much, aliens wouldn't in their right mind want to take over this place :)  Way more trouble than it's worth, and there's not that much here that couldn't be found elsewhere more easily.  Water is, perhaps, one of the most common compounds in the universe, statistically speaking (hydrogen is the most common element, and hydrogen would usually combine with oxygen to form water (leaving the fusion of hydrogen into helium apart, since helium doesn't combine with anything), as oxygen is reasonably high on the list of common elements, since it also combines with silicon), and ice is far more easily harvested on celestial bodies with lesser gravity wells.  So shows like "V" are completely incorrect that aliens would want our water).  Solar flares and earthquakes happen frequently.  Small tremors occur almost continuously.  There is speculation over whether a magnetic pole reversal is going to happen any time soon, and reporting that speculation isn't something that should induce panic.  The Earth's magnetic field has changed many times in the past.  They know this from the way iron particles and other magnetically influenced substances line up in different layers of the earth.  These are things that simply ARE, and should not induce panic, they should attract scientific curiosity.  Discovering what effects they may or may not have should be a matter of scientific inquiry, rather than wasting time, money and effort on a single factor alone.

 

But the global warming people, they are deliberately out to scare people, and there's no two ways around that.  Feel free to speculate on why they want to scare people all you like.



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View Postket101, on Jul 29 2019 - 10:32, said:

 

But the global warming people, they are deliberately out to scare people, and there's no two ways around that.  Feel free to speculate on why they want to scare people all you like.

remember he used to be a global warming guy a few years ago...... and if i had to guess... i'd say they were just trolls... who desperately crave attention.....



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View PostKlaatu_Nicto, on Aug 15 2015 - 09:38, said:

 

That video I posted shows what real science and data has to say about climate change so there's not much they can say to dispute it.

 

I came across the following video last night. This lecture occurred at the Nobel Laureates meeting July 1st, 2015. This scientist is using some of the same graphs and charts I've posted in the Universe topics - graphs and charts which someone has claimed are not valid because they come from "political sites."

 

 

 

 

 

Klaatu_Nicto, on Aug 16 2015 - 09:17, said:

 

 

Dishonest is you claiming I made a statement I did not make and this not the first time you have done this. I did not say and have never said   "no warming according to NASA."  What I have said in the past and said in this thread was "How is NASA wrong when they show no significant global warming since 2005?"  Earlier this year NASA said 2014 beat out 2005 as the warmest year record. 2014 was 0.02 degrees warmer than 2005 so what does that tell us:

 

1. No significant warming has occurred over the past ten years.

2. If none of the years between 2005 and 2014 were warmer than 2005, with the exception of 2010 which tied 2005, than those years have to be cooler than 2005.

3. At the rate of change we have seen over the past ten years it will take five hundred years for the average global temperature to increase one degree.

4. AGW theory predicted a much greater increase in temperature than we are seeing so the theory has failed and the theories to explain why the AGW theory has failed are have also failed.

 

We can believe what an award winning climatologist who has been monitoring global temperatures for over two decades has to say on this subject, what a Nobel prize winning physicist has to say on this subject, what many other scientists are saying on this subject and, most importantly, real world data.  Or, we can believe a mechanical engineering graduate who ignores the scientific method and engages in dishonest tactics and logical fallacies

 

Here is some of that real world data I mentioned. NOAA established a new network of monitoring stations throughout the US in locations that would not be influenced by the urban heat island effect. This network began recording data in 2005 and here are the results.

 

 

 

Most of the other temperature charts and graphs you see are complied from data obtained from measuring stations established 100 years ago or more in what back then were rural areas. Over the decades those rural areas have become cities, towns or highly developed urban areas. NOAA established it's new network in order to answer complaints from many scientists that the warming recorded by these stations  over the past decades is actually due to the urban heat island effect. You can see for yourself that NOAA's new network, and most accurate network for measuring temperature, shows a downward trend since 2005.  



ket101 #185 Posted Jul 30 2019 - 00:46

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View PostHelpless, on Jul 29 2019 - 23:46, said:

remember he used to be a global warming guy a few years ago...... and if i had to guess... i'd say they were just trolls... who desperately crave attention.....


Umm, no.  Trolls would be an improvement.  Trolls can be ignored.  Global warming alarmists, the people who are doing their level best to scare people, are in every level of government, and are behind a LOT of money.  Just yesterday, it came out that the Sydney City Council refused to install lighting for an exercise area in a park, that is utilised by women after the end of their working day, because it impacted their carbon emission strategy.  How stupid is it to compromise public safety because the official reason is they are too scared to install lights?  This will not be the end of stupid decisions because of the vested interests behind global warming scaremongering.  It isn't the start either, but sure as heck it won't be the finish.



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View Postket101, on Jul 29 2019 - 15:46, said:


Umm, no.  Trolls would be an improvement.  Trolls can be ignored.  Global warming alarmists, the people who are doing their level best to scare people, are in every level of government, and are behind a LOT of money.  Just yesterday, it came out that the Sydney City Council refused to install lighting for an exercise area in a park, that is utilised by women after the end of their working day, because it impacted their carbon emission strategy.  How stupid is it to compromise public safety because the official reason is they are too scared to install lights?  This will not be the end of stupid decisions because of the vested interests behind global warming scaremongering.  It isn't the start either, but sure as heck it won't be the finish.

 

Australia was quick to jump on the climate industrial complex's bandwagon.

 

Solar Hot Water Panels Burst in Melbourne Winter Freeze
"I don't think it's a quality issue. It's more or less I don't think anybody expected for Melbourne to be so cold. They really aren't made for our changing climate."
https://www.theage.c...703-gx3dfd.html


Australian Energy Market Operator report says wind farms were the ultimate cause of blackout, network withstood pylon downings
“The Preliminary Report makes it clear that while the weather was responsible for multiple transmission system faults, the blackout did not occur until after the sudden loss of 315 megawatts of wind output at six separate sites over a six second period,”
said Director of Research Brett Hogan.

 

“When you rely on the weather to generate electricity, and the weather turns bad, then you shouldn’t be surprised when your electricity system in turn cannot cope.” “While renewables may very well have a place in our future energy needs, their uncontrolled rollout, powered by federal and state government subsidies is starting to do Australia damage.”
https://wattsupwitht...pylon-downings/



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View Postket101, on Jul 29 2019 - 23:46, said:

 This will not be the end of stupid decisions because of the vested interests behind global warming scaremongering.  It isn't the start either, but sure as heck it won't be the finish.

so ur saying we shouldnt worry about Klaatu_Nicto posting all that crap about world ending meteors... pandemics... global collapse... solar flares... emps... alien takeovers...pole flips... doomsday earthquakes... mega volcanoes... and a hundred other stupid world ending things.... because no ones paying him to do it????

 

 

anyways... my new job site has opened up now..... u guys have fun with the end of the world....

cause i have a world to continue building up.....



ket101 #188 Posted Jul 30 2019 - 04:38

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View PostHelpless, on Jul 30 2019 - 13:17, said:

so ur saying we shouldnt worry about Klaatu_Nicto posting all that crap about world ending meteors... pandemics... global collapse... solar flares... emps... alien takeovers...pole flips... doomsday earthquakes... mega volcanoes... and a hundred other stupid world ending things.... because no ones paying him to do it????

 

 

anyways... my new job site has opened up now..... u guys have fun with the end of the world....

cause i have a world to continue building up.....


You certainly know how to grab the wrong end of the stick.  I don't think you're paying attention.



Klaatu_Nicto #189 Posted Jul 31 2019 - 18:50

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Climate Change Could Revive Medieval Megadroughts in U.S. Southwest
https://blogs.ei.col...climate-change/

 

The warming that occurred during the Medieval Warm Period, when climate was warmer than today, was a natural event but the warming since the end of the Little Ice Age is man-made???????

 



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View PostHelpless, on Jul 30 2019 - 00:17, said:

so ur saying we shouldnt worry about Klaatu_Nicto posting all that crap about world ending meteors... pandemics... global collapse... solar flares... emps... alien takeovers...pole flips... doomsday earthquakes... mega volcanoes... and a hundred other stupid world ending things.... because no ones paying him to do it????

 

No, it`s more like we shouldn`t worry because the chance of any of the items you mentioned happening in your lifetime and having a huge detrimental effect on you is minuscule.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Klaatu_Nicto #191 Posted Jul 31 2019 - 21:48

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U.S. Climate Reference Network (USCRN)

The contiguous U.S. network of 114 stations was completed in 2008. There are two USCRN stations in Hawaii and deployment of a network of 29 stations in Alaska continues. The vision of the USCRN program is to maintain a sustainable high-quality climate observation network that 50 years from now can with the highest degree of confidence answer the question: How has the climate of the Nation changed over the past 50 years?  The stations are placed in pristine environments expected to be free of development for many decades.

https://www.ncdc.noa...e-network-uscrn


Why place the new stations in pristine environments expected to be free of development for many decades?  The stations that have been in place for over 100 years are in cities suffering from the heat island effect so rather than measuring a change in overall climate, they're measuring the change in localized areas affected by the heat island effect. 

 

 

NOAA temperature data reveals that 6 of the last 9 months were below normal in the USA
The data, taken directly from NOAA’s national climate data page, shows not only that much of 2019 was below average, but that the US Temperature average is actually cooler now for 2019 than we were in 2005, when the dataset started.
https://wattsupwitht...get-june-right/

 

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Sweden’s Biggest Cities Face Power Shortage After Fuel-Tax Hike
Sweden’s introduction on Thursday of a tax aimed at phasing out the nation’s last remaining coal and gas plants to curb global warming comes with an unintended consequence for some of its biggest cities.
https://finance.yaho...-040000499.html

leeuniverse #193 Posted Aug 04 2019 - 05:27

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Hey all...

 

The actual science of the historical record (not the leftist cherry-picks) proves unequivocally that CO2 follows Warming, not the other way around, and that it has little to nothing to do with Warming.

The actual science demonstrates the Warming follows the Sun's cycles more than anything else.

Then you have the data manipulation by the so-called scientists to make their claims, ClimateGate (email scandal), you have the satellite data not backing up the land data claims, and so much more.

 

But, you don't have to go through all the minutia to know what's true, you can look at just ONE simple fact.

What's that you ask?

 

The fact that there have been 1,000's of "prophecies" by the so-called "scientists" and activists for the last 50 years from "Global Cooling" the first 10 years, to Global Warming the last 40 years, and that:

NOT ONE OF THOSE PROPHECIES have actually come true.  Further, they've not only NOT come true, they've not even come close to being accurate.

One of the biggest false claims of their's is that every year they say "In 12 Years such and such will be at catastrophic levels".  Well, guess what, they've been saying this the last 50 years, and ZERO OF IT HAS HAPPENED!!!

 

This makes the Climate Change proponents the biggest and worst FALSE RELIGION on the planet, massively bigger than any actual religion that's clearly false with their small # of false prophecy's.

 

Take sea-level rise... at Fort Denison Australia

Leftists in Australia will tell you sea rise is in danger of coming to end of the world levels, but this is the actual truth.

Posted Image

 

You can find this same exact info everywhere in the world.

Look at a Picture of some Beach location 90 years ago, and look at it now, LITTLE has changed.

 

Leftists are LIARS, even with Science... something that shouldn't be political, but they make it so.



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Whats funny is that in the 90's everyone was completely convinced the new ice age was upon us to the point even tv shows were harping on it.

 



leeuniverse #195 Posted Aug 04 2019 - 23:04

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NOT THE MAMA...!!!

 

LOL



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U.S. Cows And Pigs Gorge On Bakery Rolls, Pet Food As Corn Prices Surge
“We’re already starting to ration our corn out”


Agricultural cooperatives, equipment dealers and plants that process corn into ethanol have already been strained because farmers were unable to plant millions of acres this spring due to widespread flooding.
https://www.reuters....e-idUSKCN1US23Z



TheManFromKekistan #197 Posted Aug 07 2019 - 13:53

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I have a deep freezer filled with pork and steak and chicken. I'm good for a long while. Besides if we cut off the grain exports to china and india we will have more than enough to grow tasty pork chops and ny strips for everyone! :P

Klaatu_Nicto #198 Posted Aug 12 2019 - 17:48

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August 11, 2019 - China Scientists Warn Of Global Cooling Trick Up Nature’s Sleeve
"Driving forces include the sun, the atmosphere, and its interaction with the ocean. We have detected no evidence of human influence."
https://www.scmp.com...-natures-sleeve


August 8, 2019 - Global Warming? An Israeli Astrophysicist Provides Alternative View That Is Not Easy To Reject
“Climate change has existed forever and is unlikely to go away. But CO2 emissions don’t play the major role. Periodic solar activity does.”
https://www.thegwpf....nt-you-to-read/


June 29, 2019 - No Experimental Evidence For The Significant Anthropogenic Climate Change
Because the anthropogenic portion in the increased CO2 is less than 10 %, we have practically no anthropogenic climate change. The low clouds control mainly the global temperature.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1907.00165.pdf

 



Klaatu_Nicto #199 Posted Sep 04 2019 - 21:08

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Global Warming or Bad Data?
The weather station that was put, say, in the middle of a Nassau County, Long Island, potato field in 1923 is still in the same spot. But the potatoes are long gone, and now it’s behind a strip mall, twenty feet from the kitchen exhaust fan of a Chinese take-out joint.
https://www.commenta...data-locations/

 

 

September 4, 2019 - Victoria Experiences Record Cold August
https://electroverse...-solar-minimum/

 

September 4, 2019 - South America’s “Dry and Cold Winter” Lowers Fruit and Vegetable Production
https://electroverse...ble-production/

 

August 30,2019 - Moscow Shivers Through its Coldest Summer in Recorded History, in over 150 Years of Data
https://electroverse...-years-of-data/


August 22, 2019 - Frosty Far North Queensland's coldest August night in six decades
https://www.abc.net....z3uUcRtx8YsaPMk

 



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A nice fat dollop of hilariously on point sarcasm this fine day on this subject. :bajan:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjcdMU2itv8






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