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Valentine horrible light tank bad guns camo

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MakersMike #1 Posted Jun 07 2019 - 19:38

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What did the Valentine ever do to you Wargaming?  How can you make such a horrible tank?  Valentine Tier IV light tank.

 

Yes, I can crawl like a 3 toe'd sloth to a bush and snipe with one of the horrible guns that has 1000 dpm, but I'll be past this atrocity before I have a good camo crew. 

 

Oh, and it's lucky enough to be one of the few tanks at tier IV and above, that doesn't get the same camo while moving.  it drops 4.5 when it moves, and it's a tank that needs that camo more than anything while moving. 

 

This tank.  Who else has had the pleasure?  This might be the most painful tank to play that I've had yet.  Not might be.  Is.

20 kmh top speed.  8.9 HP/ T ratio so it takes a bit to even get to that 20 kmh.  Top guns have 1000 dpm? Bad camo when crawling and praying to make it to some bush before I'm spotted and killed.

 

This tank is a sick and twisted joke played on us.  I'm going to have to wait till I get more free xp I think.  Because this tank is just frustrating.  Why even make a tank this horrible?  Just to laugh at us?

 

Well, all I can do is laugh too. This tank is amazingly bad.  I just had to share my love for it in forums.

 

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Garandster #2 Posted Jun 07 2019 - 19:44

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I didn't find it too terrible at all. Ran it with vents, optics, and binos. I also used the stock gun and carried a lot of premium for the DPM.

 

Edit: You don't need to run full premium rounds, but you will want them since you don't have the mobility to do much flanking.


Edited by Garandster, Jun 07 2019 - 19:47.


Wolfskrieger #3 Posted Jun 07 2019 - 19:50

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It was one of my first tier IV tanks, but I stopped playing it pretty fast when I found better lines to go down. Got it back to play just for the lulz, and fix my win rate on the thing. Was pretty happy when I sold it for good. You can have incredible games in it, but it's slow and underwhelming. Isn't the Matilda better than it in pretty much every way? I liked the 4 different gun options tho, lol.

I_QQ_4_U #4 Posted Jun 07 2019 - 19:58

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It is kind of stupid that it's a light tank that doesn't get the light tank camo bonus. Even if it is more of a heavy at that tier.

Necrophore #5 Posted Jun 07 2019 - 20:02

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View PostGarandster, on Jun 07 2019 - 10:44, said:

I didn't find it too terrible at all. Ran it with vents, optics, and binos. I also used the stock gun and carried a lot of premium for the DPM.

 

Edit: You don't need to run full premium rounds, but you will want them since you don't have the mobility to do much flanking.

 

The stock gun also allows the stock turret, which adds about 15% to the power/weight ratio.

One of my favorite early-war tanks, but WG has gone out of their way to break any potential it had. (No rammer, no light tank camo, full matchmaking.)

sargev55 #6 Posted Jun 07 2019 - 20:02

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It's not actually that bad of a tank, most people think its the Valentine II and are surprised when they start getting hit for 100 plus dmg when using the 75mm or the 6pdr.  6pdr is the gun of choice for best results. 

F1O1 #7 Posted Jun 07 2019 - 20:14

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Valentine was actually quite good, when tier lV MM was acceptable.

But now valentine MM has changed, and it finds itself in tier 6 battles consistently. lt is quite bad

You cannot face dragged up scout tier 2 tanks, and tier 3s don't see tier 5, so all those matches Valentine doesn't get.

 



FrozenKemp #8 Posted Jun 07 2019 - 20:20

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Who says it doesn't get the light tank camo bonus?

 

Some people run with the stock turret and the 2-pounder. Be prepared to use premium but the DPM is better.  I like the 6-pounder myself, as the pen is good. 



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View PostFrozenKemp, on Jun 07 2019 - 20:20, said:

Who says it doesn't get the light tank camo bonus?

 

 



bockscar43 #10 Posted Jun 07 2019 - 20:43

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Bad, yes, why, because it's not Russian and supplied by the British...just the way it are. 

DVK9 #11 Posted Jun 07 2019 - 21:00

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wasnt a bad tank when I ran through it.

It was a pig to drive as a lite. Would usually platoon 3 and play them like TD's.

until I got my B-2 and platoon the stuffing out of that until I tired of over running game after game.

 



Ivredevent #12 Posted Jun 07 2019 - 21:20

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One of my first tier IV. Kind of a bad surprise when you first get into it... sooo slow for a light. Had quite a few good games with it. Had to sell it to make room in the garage. 

 

I remember one game, not much experience, can't remember the map. But I went straight through the middle of the map, pass through the village, never spotted. The teamchat yelling: ''what are you doing Valentine, you moron!!!''. I reached the red flag and capped for the win. Not even sure I had or even received a shot in that game. Beginner's luck I guess...



MakersMike #13 Posted Jun 07 2019 - 23:51

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I thought about using the stock gun again.  Dispersion and aim time are so much better.  And the DPM is over 400 more than the other guns.  And the lighter turret would help, but only brings hp/t from 9 to 10 basically.  But I don't want to spend money shooting gold rounds on a tank like this.  At first glance the $1,200 per gold round looked good, then you realize at 50 dmg a shot, you're paying $4,800 for every 200 damage.  Yikes.  Not doing that for this tank.  

 

Obviously it's got bad numbers and not a great tank, but I'm sure it seems worse to me know than it actually is.  I planned on just rushing through it, and not spend money on it.  So I literally have an 80% crew right now with zero skills.  Most tanks don't feel great with a crew like that. The tank has camo advantage over other lights, but it all goes away when you move lol.  

 

30 minutes after I wrote this post, I had a decent game 600 dmg and 500 spotting.  I can live with that in this tank.

 

Thanks all for the replies.  

 

 



BigNaturals #14 Posted Jun 08 2019 - 02:15

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are you really [edited]about tier 4? 

Edited by BigNaturals, Jun 08 2019 - 02:17.


MakersMike #15 Posted Jun 09 2019 - 04:18

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View PostBigNaturals, on Jun 07 2019 - 18:15, said:

are you really [edited]about tier 4? 

 

I know, a Mahou like you must think it's just sooooo pathetic.  Maybe, when you first tried the game, just maybe you had just one moment when you got irritated about a tier 4.  If not, fair enough.  How kind of you to take time from your busy tank life to worry about my comment though.  Are you really [edited] about my comment?

Edited by MakersMike, Jun 09 2019 - 04:20.






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