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Poll: Update 1.5.1 Feedback (146 members have cast votes)

Are you enjoying/looking forward to update 1.5.1

  1. yes (90 votes [69.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 69.23%

  2. no (16 votes [12.31%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.31%

  3. don't care (24 votes [18.46%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.46%

Which feature(s) are you enjoying/looking forward to?

  1. Crew Books (86 votes [30.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.94%

  2. Leopard 1 Rework (40 votes [14.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.39%

  3. STB 1 Rework (25 votes [8.99%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.99%

  4. Session Stats (46 votes [16.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.55%

  5. Kharkov Redesign (48 votes [17.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.27%

  6. Other Vehicle Reworks (20 votes [7.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.19%

  7. I'm not enjoying/looking forward to any of them (13 votes [4.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.68%

Which features are you NOT enjoying/looking forward to?

  1. Crew Books (16 votes [8.99%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.99%

  2. STB 1 Rework (30 votes [16.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.85%

  3. Leo 1 Rework (19 votes [10.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.67%

  4. Session Stats (24 votes [13.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.48%

  5. Kharkov Redesign (28 votes [15.73%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.73%

  6. Other Vehicle Reworks (15 votes [8.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.43%

  7. I'm enjoying/looking forward to all of them (46 votes [25.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.84%

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Insanefriend #21 Posted Jun 12 2019 - 20:08

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View PostSully83, on Jun 12 2019 - 12:51, said:

Figures a mod infested G clan member with his alt account and 0 battles be the first to comment ya wanker

 

 

He has battles, there is a slight delay on the forums after a post before that players battle count appears.

 

Also in my thousands of battles I have never once been randomly lagged out by a player on either team.  In every case I've had connection problems it could be traced back to another device on my network or a node between me and the server.  I always try to figure out what is causing me lag problems and stop it.  I personally can't stand packet loss.


Edited by Insanefriend, Jun 12 2019 - 20:13.


Sully83 #22 Posted Jun 12 2019 - 20:17

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View PostFirefox4312, on Jun 12 2019 - 12:03, said:


My guy, I must be the OG alt account then.

 

 

Also, if you think mods are actual lag switches per your previous comment, you're in fact delusional.

Your first comment it was showing you with 0 battles, also check out the youtube video to prove it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMzL77s7afU    ......   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9SoyHKxZ18


Edited by Sully83, Jun 12 2019 - 20:18.


Firefox4312 #23 Posted Jun 12 2019 - 20:21

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View PostSully83, on Jun 12 2019 - 20:17, said:

Your first comment it was showing you with 0 battles, also check out the youtube video to prove it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMzL77s7afU    ......   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9SoyHKxZ18


 Only happened to a few people at most. I've run Spoter's MoE mod for basically since it came out and no one has mentioned they've lagged near me. I've run into people I know run the mod as well, and have never lagged either. The bug basically affected a handful of people, mostly on EU, which has nothing to do with NA.



Lucid_Nonsense_1 #24 Posted Jun 12 2019 - 20:21

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It would be nice if the training booklet let you increase sub 100% primary crews. TBH, that's what I was hoping for most out of the free booklets.

Sully83 #25 Posted Jun 12 2019 - 20:22

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View PostFirefox4312, on Jun 12 2019 - 12:07, said:

 

That moment when I want XVM to be banned so arty doesn't shoot me as much :(

My beef is not with you brother, if your opinion differs from mine than so be it. Same time though understand its not just me that wants to play with no mods, it should be a option. Server solely for those that want to play a game on same terms as everyone else, mod free. 



Sully83 #26 Posted Jun 12 2019 - 20:25

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View PostFirefox4312, on Jun 12 2019 - 12:21, said:


 Only happened to a few people at most. I've run Spoter's MoE mod for basically since it came out and no one has mentioned they've lagged near me. I've run into people I know run the mod as well, and have never lagged either. The bug basically affected a handful of people, mostly on EU, which has nothing to do with NA.

K, thats nice it has not happened to you, but it has happened to me, whether the guy was on enemy team or my own, drive near him and my ping goes through the roof, what if its not just that mod causing it, what if there is more? Simple solution would be to deny all mods, easy as that. or give us a server we can play on without modded players. Than we have nothing to [edited]about. 



Firefox4312 #27 Posted Jun 12 2019 - 20:27

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View PostSully83, on Jun 12 2019 - 20:22, said:

My beef is not with you brother, if your opinion differs from mine than so be it. Same time though understand its not just me that wants to play with no mods, it should be a option. Server solely for those that want to play a game on same terms as everyone else, mod free. 

 

I hate the use of most mods, MoE and YasenKrasen session stats are all I run/ran. But the thing is, mods are available to everyone. You could always download the same mods if you wanted. But generally, game sense outweighs the power of mods 99% of the time. The worst thing w/ mods giving an advantage is XVM + Arty, since they love to shoot purple.



AndrewSledge #28 Posted Jun 12 2019 - 20:29

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View PostCarryingYou, on Jun 12 2019 - 11:29, said:

tank icons are wiggling

I noticed the same thing...they're shimmering or something; it almost seem like the entire screen is doing it as well. 



Sully83 #29 Posted Jun 12 2019 - 20:38

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View PostFirefox4312, on Jun 12 2019 - 12:27, said:

 

I hate the use of most mods, MoE and YasenKrasen session stats are all I run/ran. But the thing is, mods are available to everyone. You could always download the same mods if you wanted. But generally, game sense outweighs the power of mods 99% of the time. The worst thing w/ mods giving an advantage is XVM + Arty, since they love to shoot purple.

why i also wish they would limit arty to one per side. They ban them tooning together but forgot that with the push of one button they can all mark the same target and focus fire..... one and at most two arty per side would be soooo nice and less stressful



Sully83 #30 Posted Jun 12 2019 - 20:43

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View PostFirefox4312, on Jun 12 2019 - 12:27, said:

 

I hate the use of most mods, MoE and YasenKrasen session stats are all I run/ran. But the thing is, mods are available to everyone. You could always download the same mods if you wanted. But generally, game sense outweighs the power of mods 99% of the time. The worst thing w/ mods giving an advantage is XVM + Arty, since they love to shoot purple.

And i know they are available to everyone, but its not the point. I dont want to run some mod hoping it gives me a advantage over the others, want to fight and play fair. Use the crew i built up and skills i learnt along the way, not some handicap mod helping me out and doing most the work for me. Love the fact that they are incorporating the tank/session stats and everything in game, be nice to see replay downloader to one day, other than that they all can go out the window.  



__OTTER__ #31 Posted Jun 12 2019 - 20:44

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View PostSully83, on Jun 12 2019 - 14:22, said:

My beef is not with you brother, if your opinion differs from mine than so be it. Same time though understand its not just me that wants to play with no mods, it should be a option. Server solely for those that want to play a game on same terms as everyone else, mod free. 

then y did u say and i quote "Your a special kind of stupid arent you?  Mods dont give people skill, but sure gives the advantage when your lagging out coming close to them, or they can zoom out and see over that building, or know exaclty where to shoot on every tank for a fire, ammo rack or other.. and as for the MM, been proven, wargaming EU and Russia admitted to stacking teams because players get more of a kick out of the blow out victories than having to work for it. So your comment you can wrap up and shove where the sun dont shine snowflake"  cus like i said most people in top clans would most likely be in the modless area 



eRAD6127 #32 Posted Jun 12 2019 - 20:51

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Absolutely hate the STB-1 changes. The Alpha decrease for no reason, less gun depression all round, worse accuracy, and the hydro suspension is very clumsy. The mobility didn't need changing, the alpha CERTAINLY didn't need changing. Why the accuracy and view range was nerfed is beyond me. Why Wargaming believes that the STB-1 is a ridgeline brawler meant to compete against hull down obj140's and obj430U's is hilarious. This was not a "rebalancing" as they say it is. They completely changed the tank from what it was into something else. The STB-1 before was halfway between a Leo 1 and a Patton/CentAX. you had better camo than the Patton/AX, but had view range of both of them. The STB-1 was a second line sniper. I had mine down to .33 accuracy, and it did very well in that role. It also did fairly well on hills, poking with its great view range. Now all that is gone out the window and it's absolute garbage. All the STB-1 needed was better gun handling, i.e. accuracy and aim time, and better turret armor. This "rebalancing" has me even more worried now about the E-100 "rebalancing" that they said is planned. If the STB-1 is anything to go by it won't be a buff, it will get comprehensively nerfed. all the E-100 needs is better accuracy, better penetration, and the turret armor needs to go up so tanks cant just lolpen right through the turret regardless of angling.

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Vinsent #33 Posted Jun 12 2019 - 20:59

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Update doesn't interest me, quit playing months ago, due to homelessness since Hurricane Harvey, hope to be back in the near future.

Sully83 #34 Posted Jun 12 2019 - 21:03

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View Post__OTTER__, on Jun 12 2019 - 12:44, said:

then y did u say and i quote "Your a special kind of stupid arent you?  Mods dont give people skill, but sure gives the advantage when your lagging out coming close to them, or they can zoom out and see over that building, or know exaclty where to shoot on every tank for a fire, ammo rack or other.. and as for the MM, been proven, wargaming EU and Russia admitted to stacking teams because players get more of a kick out of the blow out victories than having to work for it. So your comment you can wrap up and shove where the sun dont shine snowflake"  cus like i said most people in top clans would most likely be in the modless area 

"cus like i said most people in top clans would most likely be in the modless area "     man, what rock you been hiding under? how many players from Top Clans have had their accounts banned or busted by downloading replays with mods?  A lot of top players and bottom feeders use mods, give your head a shake lol. Sure a lot of pro players do not use them, but do not act like a big portion do not. I try and do my best to ask my clan members not to use them, encourage them they do not need them. But even i have members in clan that use some mod pack of some kind.



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View PostVinsent, on Jun 12 2019 - 12:59, said:

Update doesn't interest me, quit playing months ago, due to homelessness since Hurricane Harvey, hope to be back in the near future.

Sorry to hear that Vincent, hope everything works out for you. Thoughts and prayers going out to you, your family and anyone else affected by Harvey. 



ULTRADERECHA #36 Posted Jun 12 2019 - 21:43

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Played with the STB 1 a bit more and oh boy! What a horrible rework. Yes, the tank wasn't very competitive before but now is plain bad. You nerfed the alpha, the shell velocity, the VIEW RANGE (¡¿why?!) and gave it that disgusting hydro suspension that forces you to lower your barrel before peaking because you have to wait for the system to kick in. Yes, you have to do it before peaking because if you try to do that while exposed you will be dead pretty fast thanks to the huge cupola. This is not an UDES. Those cons are far to many for better gun handling and some minimal and totally unnecessary mobility tweaks.

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Had two bad rng matches with the STB-1 in a row.  That aside, I'm not a fan of the hydro mechanics on the mediums in it's current state.  I feel that the transitioning isn't quite as smooth as it could be.  Unlike the Swedish TDs, you'll get some reticle bounce with the mediums.  I wouldn't mind it having the "x" key mode, to do so if it was .25 seconds delay or so to engage (faster than the tds).  Also allowing it to move faster in that mode than the TDs do.  Maybe that might cure the bounce issue?

 

I'd also prefer to have the alpha back on the STB-1.  Turret buff is nice.  Seems to bounce significantly more.  I'll test it again tonight.  Hopefully the low rolls and whacky shot dispersion will have calmed down by then.

 

Here's a problem with the hydraulics.  If your traveling fast, then start to slow down to take a shot, the tank can lunge down at times and throw your aim/shot off .  Quasi jumping into siege mode.  I uploaded the replay.  It will be more apparent when your playing the tank, then viewing a replay.  If you want to see what I mean, I can post it.  Also the gun elevation in "standard" mode is unacceptable.

 

Summary.  I'll take the old STB-1 back. 

 

Enjoyed the "re-balance" on the Mutz.  Seems good at tier now.

 

Kharkov - only tried it in the training room.  Will be able to comment on it once I get it in a game mode. Aesthetically, very well done.  7 line depression should be interesting, as well as the extended field.

 

 


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KaiserWilhelmShatner #39 Posted Jun 12 2019 - 23:09

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Leopard Proto A looks more like nerfs then buffs.  

  • Changed the traverse speed of the Leopard Prototyp A2 turret from 36 to 33 deg/s
  • Changed the traverse speed of the Porsche Standardpanzer turret from 37 to 35 deg/s
  • Changed the reverse speed from 23 to 20 km/h
  • Changed the engine power of the MTU MB 837 Ba 500 engine from 630 to 670 hp
  • Changed the engine power of the MTU MB 838 CaM 500 engine from 830 to 800 hp
  • Hard to play the role of a long ranger sniper when most of the map designs dont allow it.



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View PostSully83, on Jun 12 2019 - 21:03, said:

"cus like i said most people in top clans would most likely be in the modless area "     man, what rock you been hiding under? how many players from Top Clans have had their accounts banned or busted by downloading replays with mods?  A lot of top players and bottom feeders use mods, give your head a shake lol. Sure a lot of pro players do not use them, but do not act like a big portion do not. I try and do my best to ask my clan members not to use them, encourage them they do not need them. But even i have members in clan that use some mod pack of some kind.

 

"Downloading replays with mods" what? replay files don't contain any mod information, so I would have to guess that number is 0. Even if you used illegal mods, they wouldnt show up in the replay, just the UI you run the replay in. Learn how the game works before you start throwing out bs "facts."







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