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Plays_With_Matches #21 Posted Jun 14 2019 - 18:17

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View PostYANKEE137, on Jun 14 2019 - 11:15, said:

Don't go beach!

 

Unless you are "lemmingrush" playing an LT-100 



taugrim #22 Posted Jun 14 2019 - 18:18

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View PostBlue2019, on Jun 14 2019 - 16:07, said:

 

2) Always split the team near evenly at battle start.

 

 

This is incorrect.

 

You should go to an area of the map that makes sense based on the tank you are playing, the tiers, and the compositions.

 

There are areas of maps that are flat out low value or useless, e.g. southwest on Malinovka.



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View PostYANKEE137, on Jun 14 2019 - 08:15, said:

Don't go beach!

 

Unless you're going topless, have no tan lines, carry a large bottle of sunblock, and have enough adult beverages for the entire green team... :girl:

 

View PostMarkd73, on Jun 14 2019 - 08:58, said:

I would add:

 

That thing on the bottom right of your screen is a map. Perhaps look at in on occasion. 

 

Then why does WG give me the option to turn the map off, if I'm actually supposed to be looking at it? The view is so much prettier without the map blocking a portion of my monitor... :great:



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View PostBlue2019, on Jun 14 2019 - 11:07, said:

2) Always split the team near evenly at battle start.

Not a rule, and in fact it's a bad idea.

View PostBlue2019, on Jun 14 2019 - 11:07, said:

3) Do not fire\shoot next to a scout as you will blow his camo and light him up.

False. Completely untrue.

 

 

You have a long way to go before you start publishing guides on how to play, at this point in your progress you should be looking for others to learn from.


Edited by Pipinghot, Jun 14 2019 - 18:44.


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View Postdunniteowl, on Jun 14 2019 - 17:19, said:

NO, this is mistaken.  A unit firing within 15m of a bush, no matter who's hiding behind it, ELIMINATES the concealment value of that bush.  If that's enough to get you lit, then you get lit.

 

It's not YOUR concealment value, it's the bush's concealment value.  Of course, the firing unit also has their Concealment Value dropped for having fired to some degree, but your allies using that bush?  They lose that value as well.

 

OvO

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Nope.  See 4Tankers, et. al.



Arturius666 #26 Posted Jun 14 2019 - 18:49

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I thought first rule of tanking is not to talk about tanking?




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View Postdunniteowl, on Jun 14 2019 - 11:19, said:

View PostKliphie, on Jun 14 2019 - 10:16, said:

Your shot does not take away their camo bonus from the bush, only your own.  Now doing this could draw return fire and they may be struck in the process, but they will not be detected from your action.  

NO, this is mistaken.  A unit firing within 15m of a bush, no matter who's hiding behind it, ELIMINATES the concealment value of that bush.  If that's enough to get you lit, then you get lit.

 

It's not YOUR concealment value, it's the bush's concealment value.  Of course, the firing unit also has their Concealment Value dropped for having fired to some degree, but your allies using that bush?  They lose that value as well.

This is a common misconception that has been definitively proven false by a "Tanking With Science" video.

 

The reason for this misconception is that Wargaming has published a poorly written description. A unit firing withing 15m of a bush negates the concealment value of that bush only for themselves, they do not affect the camo values of any other tanks. It actually is YOUR concealment value, you do not affect the concealment/camo benefit of that bush for allies.



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View PostBlackFive, on Jun 14 2019 - 11:44, said:

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Nope.  See 4Tankers, et. al.

Yeah, already addressed.

 

 

OvO



Kliphie #29 Posted Jun 14 2019 - 19:54

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6)  Read the whole thread before attempting to correct another's post to make sure they haven't already corrected the comment.  



largeelvis #30 Posted Jun 14 2019 - 19:55

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Blue2019 #31 Posted Jun 14 2019 - 20:04

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View PostTVV, on Jun 14 2019 - 17:15, said:

Because these rules exist only in your own mind - apart from intentionally blocking allies, which is an offense WG punishes when provided with replays, the rest are utter BS. 

And that would explain why my mind is superior to yours.

 

Right Chaos Kid?



khorender_1 #32 Posted Jun 14 2019 - 20:05

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View PostDrOoLeR_In_Da_HoUsE, on Jun 14 2019 - 17:31, said:

best is when mediums and HT race at the start of a match to go hide in a TD bush..


Especially those with derp, KV2 and M4's come to mind.



Blue2019 #33 Posted Jun 14 2019 - 20:06

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View PostPipinghot, on Jun 14 2019 - 18:52, said:

This is a common misconception that has been definitively proven false by a "Tanking With Science" video.

 

The reason for this misconception is that Wargaming has published a poorly written description. A unit firing withing 15m of a bush negates the concealment value of that bush only for themselves, they do not affect the camo values of any other tanks. It actually is YOUR concealment value, you do not affect the concealment/camo benefit of that bush for allies.

No, its not...there are even videos on Youtube showing the blown camo of

nearby friendlies.



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View PostPipinghot, on Jun 14 2019 - 18:43, said:

Not a rule, and in fact it's a bad idea.

False. Completely untrue.

 

 

You have a long way to go before you start publishing guides on how to play, at this point in your progress you should be looking for others to learn from.

Pure BS. It's not a bad idea.

 

And speaking of progress...based upon your stats...yours has been a struggle.



Blue2019 #35 Posted Jun 14 2019 - 20:10

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View Posttaugrim, on Jun 14 2019 - 18:18, said:

 

This is incorrect.

 

You should go to an area of the map that makes sense based on the tank you are playing, the tiers, and the compositions.

 

There are areas of maps that are flat out low value or useless, e.g. southwest on Malinovka.

You really think that is gonna happen in PUBS?

But then your "Road to Unicom" videos tend to ignore the reality of PUBS.



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View PostBlue2019, on Jun 14 2019 - 14:06, said:

No, its not...there are even videos on Youtube showing the blown camo of

nearby friendlies.

 

The video was in this very thread ...  showing the exact opposite of your claim

 



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View PostYANKEE137, on Jun 14 2019 - 17:15, said:

Don't go beach!

 

I love going beach. 



__Worm__ #38 Posted Jun 14 2019 - 20:25

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I don't know what number it would be but there should be one saying " don't give the enemy the broadside of your tank".

 

 

 

the things that cannot be un-seen ....



crasta #39 Posted Jun 14 2019 - 20:32

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Don't [edited]about bad players.

 

When you see a bad player and do not help them to get better but instead [edited]then you are a literal wanker.

 

:honoring:



crasta #40 Posted Jun 14 2019 - 20:33

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Its too difficult to figure out the political corectness. I will post as song later

:teethhappy:


Edited by crasta, Jun 14 2019 - 20:34.





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