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gwkucera #1 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 02:13

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Many have probably posted this, but I have a lot of games and can say unequivocally that the wheeled vehicles are by far the most OP I can recall, ever, some of them perhaps 3/4 of a tier OP.  The accuracy of the guns on the move I have never seen before...even in the E50, which I loved.

Two important points are clear:
1.  While they can be misused, and they often are, they have the potential to have by far the most impact in the game of any tank in most games.

2.  This effect is cumulative with coordination with other tracked vehicles, especially platoons.  

3. The difficulty hitting those vehicles grows geometrically with a latency above low double digits.  I play with about 90 latency typically, and I have almost no prayer of hitting those vehicles on the move at greater than 75 yards.

Matchmaker, in general, is pretty weak, but it fails especially WRT to those points above.

Please nerf these things right away.
Please put some more skilled people on MM, which fails to consider many things effectively.  The number of lopsided games, many of which are predictable via XVM or other info ex ante, has not dropped considerably since 2014.  You can do better.


 



Mike359_2016 #2 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 02:30

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I agree

gpc_4 #3 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 02:34

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I disagree.

They are generally played very poorly and require an experienced player with a good crew to excel.



F1O1 #4 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 02:55

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l agree. Without a doubt tier 9, 10, and prem EBR need nerfs.

 

 

With their excellent soft stats on dispersion, aim-time, and illegal auto-aim  -  they dramatically increase even a bad players effectiveness shooting and driving, at high speeds, when compared to other light tanks which will struggle and fail at trying the same.

 

With their roll over protection and forgiveness, anti-flip  -  they will never end up on their sides trapped, or time out and die, unlike other light tanks.

 

They cannot be immobilized without engine damage, which is particularity hard to accomplish and RNG dependent. 

 

Excellent top speeds, excellent reverse capability, allow even bad players very opportune time frame for escape. 

 

 

 

 

 



KatzeWolf #5 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 03:00

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Just reduce the chance they can block damage with their wheels.

PotatoLegend99 #6 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 03:03

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I need to start keeping and posting replays so you can all tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm constantly missing shots while playing the 105, crashing or turning sideways nearly every game, and constantly getting all of my wheels blown off slowing me down to TOG speeds...I see so many people claiming they never miss, slow down, or crash, but I haven't had a single game like that yet =(

stryker105mm #7 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 03:06

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ebr tanks a a light tank scout they should not do 450 damage per shot. they do more than  9 and 10s med tanks. and they are 2 dam fast for this game. players say it take skill to use them. then wg should make them a light tank scout with out the big azz gun damage. a ebr should not be able to take out a same tier med or ht. they are there to scout. 

LeaveIT2Beaver #8 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 03:07

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WG does not care. Period. 

Ratnikk #9 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 03:16

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Ebrs dominate any other tank in FL, a decent player can get to general fairly easy in it. HE always does damage since they gave it such a stupidly high pen value, you dont even need to do damage since their HE will track you and give them assistance points. Its hard enough to hit them without lag, imagine if some players experience lag issues during FL, good luck hitting it! If you manage to hit one theres a chance your shot will be absorbed by the invincible french rubber! The ridiculous physics they gave it dont help either. Youre gonna skid all over the place in any other light but for some reason french rubber sticks perfectly to the ground as if they were magnets. EBR + engineering = easy general in FL. Nice balancing wargaming. Im still amazed you guys actually have a ''balancing department''....

MightyBarbarian #10 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 03:19

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They will soon introduce a Harley Davidson motorcycle with sidecar. Guess what will be in the sidecar...A Bazooka man! with 5 seconds reload.

Some part of the motorcycle will be auto-ricochet, even from JPE100 shells.



TDRHooRaH #11 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 03:19

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The auto aim is pretty much an aimbot and the fact that they just absorb so many shots with no damage is unreal.



Steeler_Nation_USA #12 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 03:19

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[edited]go carts on wheels with auto lock total bullshi4444$$ and even more make believe then most tanks. 

Tod_kommt #13 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 03:20

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Ban the Wheel!!!!

waikin_umu #14 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 03:36

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I think the e50m is too op. Too much frontal armor for a medium. plz nerf wargamming.

stryker105mm #15 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 04:32

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this was about the ebrs not the e50m read the title 

Bill_Nye_the_RussianSpy #16 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 04:34

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View Poststryker105mm, on Jun 19 2019 - 20:32, said:

this was about the ebrs not the e50m read the title 

They were being sarcastic 



F1O1 #17 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 04:57

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View Postwaikin_umu, on Jun 20 2019 - 02:36, said:

I think the e50m is too op. Too much frontal armor for a medium. plz nerf wargaming.

 

Except its turret is  a joke, not even a tier 8 turret.  it has no camo at all, the DPM doesn't increase from tier 9 to 10.....

Are you being funny? l have E50M 3-marked, and literally think the tank is horses----  l'd rather play STB1, 121 than it

 

 



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View PostRatnikk, on Jun 20 2019 - 03:16, said:

Ebrs dominate any other tank in FL, a decent player can get to general fairly easy in it. HE always does damage since they gave it such a stupidly high pen value, you dont even need to do damage since their HE will track you and give them assistance points. Its hard enough to hit them without lag, imagine if some players experience lag issues during FL, good luck hitting it! If you manage to hit one theres a chance your shot will be absorbed by the invincible french rubber! The ridiculous physics they gave it dont help either. Youre gonna skid all over the place in any other light but for some reason french rubber sticks perfectly to the ground as if they were magnets. EBR + engineering = easy general in FL. Nice balancing wargaming. Im still amazed you guys actually have a ''balancing department''....

Actually any player can just yolo in it and still gain while not being killed cuz having the tier 9/10 hull at tier 8 just works, and it dosent help that theres like 3 per flank



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View PostF1O1, on Jun 20 2019 - 01:55, said:

 

With their roll over protection and forgiveness, anti-flip  -  they will never end up on their sides trapped, or time out and die, unlike other light tanks.


I've flipped and crashed my wheeled vehicles many, many times.



tanopasman62 #20 Posted Jun 20 2019 - 05:58

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Can you spell "Wot Blitz"?

 

Sure you can, it's calling your name, all the wheelie free games you want, just a few clicks away.






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