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DomoSapien #1 Posted Jun 28 2019 - 21:27

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Onto the Supertest: Make Way to British Light Tanks!

It’s a matter of days that British high-tier light tanks will crash into World of Tanks, with stealth and surprise being their element.

As you know, all high-tier light tanks are born scouts. But the role can be played differently. As for the British, they do it by leveraging their small dimensions, a good view range and outstanding guns. So, the very combination gives you a clear clue how to use these vehicles to the best result: nothing is better than to recon the enemy’s position while firing them from the least expected places.

 

Let’s take a closer look at the newcomers!

 

New Vehicles…

All in all, four vehicles will be added to the British Tech Tree, all researchable from the Cromwell, a Tier VI medium tank. So, the complete branch goes as follows:

· GSR 3301 Setter (Tier VII)

· LHMTV (Tier VIII)

· GSOR3301 AVR FS (Tier IX)

· Manticore (Tier X)

 

It’s too early to reveal the specs of Tier VII to IX vehicles as their fine-tuning is in its full swing. We have come up with a concept for the entire of batch of British tanks and now want to test it on the top vehicle. What is known for sure is that all tanks will sport small dimensions (e.g. the LHMTV is smaller than the Bat-Chat 12t, while the profile AVR FS can be compared to that of the AMX 13 90), as well as imposing concealment abilities and a decent view range.

 

…And Its crown jewel…


 

The branch is topped by the Manticore, a X Tier light tank. The name fits it perfectly as it is nothing short of a controversy of a vehicle. Despite being quite small (the Manticore is smaller than the T-100LT), it manages to bear a huge 105mm gun with excellent characteristics. Imposing armor penetration (248 mm with the standard AP round and 268 mm with the special APCR round), the alpha strike of 390 points, decent stabilization (when firing from a stationary position)—the vehicle’s got everything to be sought after. But let’s face it: it’s not perfect. Its DPM is far from impressive (4.29 shots per minute). Its stabilization when firing on the move is low. Its ammunition is so precious that you’ll have to think over each shot you are about to make.

 

The Manticore is predator that can wait, while opting for the best place to perform the best. Once the battle begins, it takes a beneficial position to scout and inform its team on the enemy positioning. It doesn’t have to run about the map—other light tanks will do it for the Manticore. Instead, it moves from one position to another, while gradually gaining its tactical advantage. Yes, the tank can play as a scout (and this is where its small dimensions will come in handy). But it’s passive scouting while providing fire support from a distance where its talents shine the brightest.

Each moment, you have to assess the situation and make decisions: is it safe to move further? Is it worth taking a shot to finish off the enemy? Or will your shot just give you away? Because, on the one hand, it’s a shame to keep such a gun idle. But on the other hand, one shouldn’t neglect the tank’s key role (that of a scout).

 

This is where the zest of playing the Manticore lies. You have to grasp its controversial nature and, having found the perfect balance between the passive scouting and active firing, tame this steel beast. Yes, it’s a challenge, but be sure, you will be rewarded with the thrilling feeling of unique power, that other light tanks can’t get their hands on!

 

Almost There!

At the moment, the vehicles are in the closed test phase. As was said, we have chosen the branch’s top tank, the Manticore, to verify whether our gaming concept will work out. Once we’ve found the perfect balance between the fire power, concealment abilities and mobility within the given playing role, we’ll proceed to fine-tuning the rest of the vehicles of VII to IX tiers.

 

The above characteristics are not final and can be changed during the testing.

 

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Christojojo #2 Posted Jun 28 2019 - 21:32

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I am looking forward to more scouts

Edited by Christojojo, Jun 28 2019 - 21:33.


cavalry11 #3 Posted Jun 28 2019 - 21:37

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Why don't you use actual Brit. ight tanks?

The_Illusive_Man #4 Posted Jun 28 2019 - 21:39

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Saying it now: This line will not be worth it if it goes live as is. Long reload, meh pen, bad accuracy, T8 HP. Some things that I would change:
 

  • All T10 lights have 1900 HP AT LEAST
  • Reduce the reload to 10 seconds
  • Increase its standard pen to 250, and its gold to 280. < 248 is poor atm. so many tanks at T10 have so much armor, with no real weakpoints.
  • Reduce its dispersion to .35 (And buff the rest)
  • Make sure it has the ammo, this type of balancing is just stupid
  • Give it something unique, like high base VR: 445 base....


YANKEE137 #5 Posted Jun 28 2019 - 21:39

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Ugly as ever.  

bansmo #6 Posted Jun 28 2019 - 21:43

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This line has been power crept by the "wheelies" even before they made it to the supertest server. Why bother?

CynicalDutchie #7 Posted Jun 28 2019 - 21:49

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View PostThe_Illusive_Man, on Jun 28 2019 - 21:39, said:

Saying it now: This line will not be worth it if it goes live as is. Long reload, meh pen, bad accuracy, T8 HP. Some things that I would change:

 

WG: introduces a T10 light tank with the highest penetration parameters

 

This guy: meh pen



pickpocket293 #8 Posted Jun 28 2019 - 21:53

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Why not continue the light line from the existing light line (which ends at tier 4, currently)? It seems very strange to start at a light tank line, then go through several tiers of meds, only to go back to the lights.

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View PostCynicalDutchie, on Jun 28 2019 - 17:49, said:

 

WG: introduces a T10 light tank with the highest penetration parameters

 

This guy: meh pen

Because having higher pen than the others doesnt make it good pen?



Playz4Free #10 Posted Jun 28 2019 - 22:26

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Any word on where it will branch from? Off the Firefly at tier 6 or will we see a tier 5 & 6 to fill the gap between these and the covenanter?

thandiflight #11 Posted Jun 28 2019 - 22:47

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View PostPlayz4Free, on Jun 28 2019 - 21:26, said:

Any word on where it will branch from? Off the Firefly at tier 6 or will we see a tier 5 & 6 to fill the gap between these and the covenanter?

 

It says "researchable from the Cromwell"



Mikosah #12 Posted Jun 28 2019 - 22:59

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They're small and probably very stealthy, those are useful traits for scouting. That's something, but remember that scouting is an extremely niche role that's only seldom relevant in the current meta. I have fond memories of the days when the scouts were a crucial part of the team, and I weep in the knowledge that those days are long gone. I wish the old meta would come back.

 

As of the gun, the word that comes to mind is "clumsy". The reloads take ages, and the spread and aim time are bad. And don't forget the additional penetration falloff for tier 10 lights. I had hoped for proper sniping light tanks, but alas. Alternatively HESH monsters that could really punish the fatties when it gets behind them, but double alas.



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Why we need more Light tanks if we have the Wheelies???

tod914 #14 Posted Jun 29 2019 - 00:51

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View Postthandiflight, on Jun 28 2019 - 16:47, said:

 

It says "researchable from the Cromwell"

 

Figure about 35k xp should do it for the 7?


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cavalry11 #15 Posted Jun 29 2019 - 01:54

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What about some real British light tanks, instead of this made up crap.

ThatTrafficCone #16 Posted Jun 29 2019 - 02:07

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Why does this vehicle begin at Tier VII? Surely there's enough material for a full independent branch beginning at Tier II. At least have it branch off of a light tank, not a medium.

FrozenKemp #17 Posted Jun 29 2019 - 02:12

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I am sad that these are all paper tanks.  But... IT'S HAPPENING!!! WOOOOOT!

Harvester_0f_Sorrow #18 Posted Jun 29 2019 - 02:15

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It looks like they getting their own bat-chat line

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View PostThatTrafficCone, on Jun 28 2019 - 20:07, said:

Why does this vehicle begin at Tier VII? Surely there's enough material for a full independent branch beginning at Tier II. At least have it branch off of a light tank, not a medium.


Certainly awkward to switch it from a light line to a medium line before getting back to lights (much like the French medium tank line is bridged by lights in the mid tiers), but I think its temporary. They will bring out British armoured cars soon enough and that will provide the link from the tier 4 light to the tier 7.



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View PostThatTrafficCone, on Jun 28 2019 - 20:07, said:

Why does this vehicle begin at Tier VII? Surely there's enough material for a full independent branch beginning at Tier II. At least have it branch off of a light tank, not a medium.




My sentiments exactly.  Where's Tetrarch and it's successor Harry Hopkins?  Where's The non

arty version of FV304 (FV301)?  I don't mind a new light tank branch and in fact have waited

for this one since 0.8.0, but if you're going to gyp us out of the low tiers we've definitely know

exist then we're gonna have problems and fits.


Edited by IndygoEEI, Jun 29 2019 - 06:13.





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