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24_inch_pythons #1 Posted Jul 20 2019 - 02:19

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 It has "Self-Propelled" Guns -- or SPGs

 What, possibly, could "self-propelled" mean?

 Notice how two of the six Self-Propelled Guns in this battle do something called "moving". 

 And by a strange coincidence those two Self-Propelled Guns survive the battle. This is incredible! Could it possibly mean something?

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4964723#el_halluf-24_inch_pythons-panhard_ebr_90



Blocksupstudios #2 Posted Jul 20 2019 - 02:26

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that's strange, there's this white ring with a flag in the middle of it. how do i get out of the white ring? all the help is appreciated

24_inch_pythons #3 Posted Jul 20 2019 - 02:29

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View PostBlocksupstudios, on Jul 19 2019 - 19:26, said:

that's strange, there's this white ring with a flag in the middle of it. how do i get out of the white ring? all the help is appreciated

 

Can't help, sorry. Good luck, though!



kapri25 #4 Posted Jul 20 2019 - 02:41

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Tank destroyers are also classified as SPGs. The reason they are further classified as arty is because of the way they act. TDs role is to hunt/ambush tanks whereas "arty" (especially of the mobile kind) are supposed to hit targets from range greater than a normal tank. Mobile arty is a better choice in the end as they have an easier time to move from position to position. Why you see more and more modern military moving to phase out regular arty pieces with mobile ones. Also to note, Anti-Air tanks are also SPGs.

WhineMaker #5 Posted Jul 20 2019 - 02:58

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View PostBlocksupstudios, on Jul 19 2019 - 17:26, said:

that's strange, there's this white ring with a flag in the middle of it. how do i get out of the white ring? all the help is appreciated

 

Being an arty player, I have no idea how to get out of the white ring. All I ever do is spawn and click on the red tanks. Maybe someone with a wee bit more knowledge of the game will come along and help you... :(



Vulcan_Spectre #6 Posted Jul 20 2019 - 02:59

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SPGs nicknamed 'arty' did not fire at tanks, and were positions far behind front lines

Omega_Weapon #7 Posted Jul 20 2019 - 03:15

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View PostVulcan_Spectre, on Jul 19 2019 - 20:59, said:

SPGs nicknamed 'arty' did not fire at tanks, and were positions far behind front lines


Yet they still designed anti-tank ammunition for them. Hmmm. :unsure:



LeaveIT2Beaver #8 Posted Jul 20 2019 - 03:25

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*pffft*  "I can't move - I'm"
A. Arty
B. TD

C. STFU

D. Play your own game

E. All of the above


Edited by LeaveIT2Beaver, Jul 20 2019 - 03:32.


Pipinghot #9 Posted Jul 20 2019 - 03:47

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View PostVulcan_Spectre, on Jul 19 2019 - 20:59, said:

SPGs nicknamed 'arty' did not fire at tanks, and were positions far behind front lines

So... that's completely wrong, just in case you're interested in learning something.



jt1alta #10 Posted Jul 20 2019 - 03:53

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View PostVulcan_Spectre, on Jul 19 2019 - 17:59, said:

SPGs nicknamed 'arty' did not fire at tanks, and were positions far behind front lines

 

Artillery fire missions can be called for anything, including tanks. If you want an area on the enemies side screwed up all you need to do is ask and that service is cheerfully provided.

In this game Arty should probably be more like the Arty strikes in Frontlines with each SPG representing 6 to 10 guns doing area denial missions. It would be much worse than stunning. Irl modern firing systems one SPG can put three to four shells in the air timed by trajectory to hit the area targeted at the same time, so that would be ugly as well. In this games timeline a single SPG would probably be ineffective against a moving vehicle but a stationary target would be fair game with a good spotter.

 



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View PostOmega_Weapon, on Jul 20 2019 - 03:15, said:


Yet they still designed anti-tank ammunition for them. Hmmm. :unsure:

Pretty sure what they meant was they fire on an area not a target. Could be wrong though. Just taking a guess on their meaning.



Mad_Dog_Seabee #12 Posted Jul 20 2019 - 06:26

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View PostLeaveIT2Beaver, on Jul 19 2019 - 19:25, said:

*pffft*  "I can't move - I'm"
A. Arty
B. TD

C. STFU

D. Play your own game

E. All of the above

F - Listening to music while camped in a bush in LT.



tanopasman62 #13 Posted Jul 20 2019 - 07:14

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Today had a tier 10 Batchat arty that didn't move after its flank was lost despite me telling him to retreat several times so I could cover his rear end while provinding for stuff to shoot at.

 

He didn't move, got killed and typed "idiot team" on chat.



Trakks #14 Posted Jul 20 2019 - 08:32

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Self Propelled means it can be moved under it's own power rather than having to be towed to a location and positioned/re-positioned manually like an artillery piece. They are both a form of artillery, though. 

Yuri53 #15 Posted Jul 20 2019 - 13:13

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View PostVulcan_Spectre, on Jul 19 2019 - 20:59, said:

SPGs nicknamed 'arty' did not fire at tanks, and were positions far behind front lines

 

 

OMG are you way off. In WW2, German tanks avoided the coastlines in Italy because of ships...now I know your going to say, but they are different. Nope...the only difference is that the ships are sometimes moving but with a spotter, they hit tanks with their 5inch and 8 inch guns all the time. Off of Normandy, they fired inland at tank targets.  As for SPG's, tanks avoided them also. Those German 88's were used on tanks, as anti air, anti tank and as arty....a lot of the so called Artys were in fact TDs. Even in todays military, if you ask any tanker, he will tell you, their biggest fear is Arty. 



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View Posttanopasman62, on Jul 20 2019 - 01:14, said:

Today had a tier 10 Batchat arty that didn't move after its flank was lost despite me telling him to retreat several times so I could cover his rear end while provinding for stuff to shoot at.

 

He didn't move, got killed and typed "idiot team" on chat.


That's because by that time, he had given up and knew it was pointless to go on wasting rounds on a lost cause. That's why some just drown themselves. I watched a whole team do the lemming parade down one side, left their flank wide open, Arty had no place to run and had no one spotting and when the tanks started dropping, they blamed Arty. lol

 



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View PostWIZD, on Jul 19 2019 - 22:05, said:

Pretty sure what they meant was they fire on an area not a target. Could be wrong though. Just taking a guess on their meaning.


AP rounds are common for arty. I know this because after a 6 year stunt in the Army, I joined the Navy and was a Gunners Mate. We had both HE and AP in our 5 inch gun...you forget that AP can be used against a lot of things like bunkers, but was made for tanks....even in WW2







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