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dratsaB_gumS #1 Posted Jul 22 2019 - 05:38

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If this is covered somewhere, like a Fronline Manual or something, please let me now - I haven't found anything that addresses these questions.

I've been getting killed by artillery strikes and bomb runs, even though I'm WELL out of view range of the enemy.
Then I realized that I may be getting spotted by recon flights. I don't have 6th on my Tier 8 tanks yet, but I have been told that if a Recon  Flight spots you, it'll cause a 6th Sense.

So I started paying more attention to the skies.
I can spot a dive-bomber, no prob.
But there are two kinds of flights I've seen and don't know what they might be.
Sometimes, a single, slow-moving plane flies from the enemy side to mine. Just buzzes along.
•   I'd have thought they were recon, but they're kind of frequent and I don't imagine an enemy is calling for THAT many.
Sometimes I see 5 fighters from my side go forward in formation about half a map square, turn right, and fly back.
•   They're not so frequent, but there's still a lot of them.
In the end, my question is if there's a way to spot a recon flight so I know to make sure I'm arty-safe?
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Edited by dratsaB_gumS, Jul 22 2019 - 05:40.


FunkyMonkey911 #2 Posted Jul 22 2019 - 06:24

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Wow if you could pay attention to the skys the map and the mini map at the same time that would be very impressive.  The general rule if you dont have 6th is to just assume you are spotted at all times.  

Sayntt #3 Posted Jul 22 2019 - 06:56

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The formation of planes is the airstrike on defenders that don't leave a captured zone, the single slow mover *is* recon, pretty sure.

I_QQ_4_U #4 Posted Jul 22 2019 - 06:59

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In FL just assume you're always spotted, never sit anywhere for too long.

RC_1140 #5 Posted Jul 22 2019 - 07:46

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View PostSayntt, on Jul 21 2019 - 21:56, said:

The formation of planes is the airstrike on defenders that don't leave a captured zone, the single slow mover *is* recon, pretty sure.

Here is the answer. 

 

I feel like more people are using recon than before. 


Edited by RC_1140, Jul 22 2019 - 07:46.


thandiflight #6 Posted Jul 22 2019 - 10:48

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The actual recon flights and bombers are not modeled. The planes are pretty random and not organized according to who requested what but rather just as part of the map as with those planes in the random pubbie maps.

SporkBoy #7 Posted Jul 23 2019 - 01:36

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Maybe work on getting that 6th sense before the next episode!

dratsaB_gumS #8 Posted Jul 23 2019 - 02:57

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Much thanks to ALL, especially "assume you're always spotted"..  duh.. so obvious!
And, yeah. 6th is what I'm working for, even if only to see whether the slow mover is followed by 6th sense alert.
It wasn't horrible to try to watch the skies: the different plane formations have different prop sounds, but from experience - DON"T try to watch the skies AND the battle. I was almost completely ineffective while doing sky-watch (so I limited it).

For two FL battles, if I heard an aircraft overhead, I did a quick scan.

I'm really enjoying Frontline, far more than I thought I would. I hear rumors of new maps, even tier 9 Frontline.
 

 


 



FunkyMonkey911 #9 Posted Jul 23 2019 - 06:53

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I wonder if the 6th sense directive will work in the Frontline mode?  Under the special directives for bonds you can select the 6th sense and pay per battle.

RBSPWAW #10 Posted Jul 23 2019 - 10:06

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You probably have a bunch of 6th Sense Directives that you’ve been awarded.  Start using those.  There’s no reason to hoard them.

dratsaB_gumS #11 Posted Jul 26 2019 - 02:34

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OK, now I AM embarrassed..   I DO have the directives.. but I never use them..  heck, I never even THINK about them!
Next Frontline, I'm the Directive King and will report my results!

Side note: Here's a thread - some people are convinced that, yes, you CAN see the recon flights go overhead:

http://forum.worldof...with-camo-nets/

dratsaB_gumS #12 Posted Yesterday, 04:46 AM

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As promised - I turned on Directives and played Frontline arty so I could pay attention to the recon question.

Every time I heard a propeller, I did a quick scan of the skies.
I was defending and noticed that sometimes I'd see 5 planes go down south of those dashed lines and POOF! we can see arty.
So far so good.
Then I tried to GET spotted.. not as easy as you might think.
Finally, when I was defending again, back up against the northern wall (behind the dashed lines), I heard planes overhead and DING! my 6th sense went off (as did the 6th sense on the tank next to me).
We ran (both Lorraines) and the one who didn't have 6th got barraged.
I saw the 'lone plane' a couple of times, but only after the 5-plane recon run, so I'm still not sure about that one.
Nor am I sure about what I'll call 'mid-map' recon flights, as I didn't get spotted except while outside the dashed lines.

So, there's an update! :-)



AndrewSledge #13 Posted Yesterday, 03:35 PM

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There's three sets of planes that you see in frontlines:

  • Recon flight - Single plane flying high and straight
  • Bombing Run - Single plane making a shallow dive on the target, and pulling away. These are hard to see unless you're looking for them, and watching for them won't do you any good in terms of trying to avoid them.
  • Zone opens - after a zone is captured and the next zone opens, you'll see a flight of 5 aircraft pass overhead and then make a U-turn.


dratsaB_gumS #14 Posted Today, 01:37 AM

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Andrew - Do you know if there's an official place where those are described? I don't know if WG released any kind of detailed explanation of Frontline.
I ask because what you're saying is what I thought. I seriously thought that the single, high & straight MUST be recon. I watched enough bombing runs to know what those are. But the "Zone Opens" may be used more than that???

When I defended Zone C, we held it nearly the entire battle and I saw 3 or 4 of those 'groups of 5, fly down & u-turn".. all of them went south, past the dashed line, and then turned back north. Not a zone open thing (as our zone was never captured). Coincidentally, every time I saw the group of 5, we suddenly saw their arty. Maybe a lone plane went by and I just didn't notice it
It's funny, I'm really just curious about this.. about what kinds of things to keep an eye out for, but once I'm curious about something, I'm often willing to go to great lengths! :-)
PS - wow, hella stats! And a 3-marked Scorp? Sweet!

dratsaB_gumS #15 Posted Today, 03:53 AM

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OK, so, I remembered that I have a FreeCam mod and I save all replays, so I sat and watched a couple of battles in FreeCam.
Everything I observed holds up most of AndrewSledge's observations and I only say most because I didn't observe for anything, really, except the spotting.
I noticed that a couple of times, when I observed the "So and so's recon flight" notification (lower-right, above the map), I often observed 2 or 3 of them, and some appeared to have 'escorts' up to the dashed line.
It was tough with so many planes in the air. But I DID get to follow a few friendly flights and observe where they were when the enemy got lit and, yes, a solo, straight-line was used.
So I tried a battle where, while defending, I at least got spotted.
I actually have a screen shot of me being spotted, the spotting plane just a ways past me, and even another spotting plane in the next sector over.
So, yeah, that's what I was curious about.
As a side note: Replays do things weird.. I think the aircraft, as NPC, have an established flight path, and how they get their can be odd.The time I was spotted, as a case in point:
I was way up north, at the edge of the map, and two planes (one in the center, where I was, and one on the right when viewing the map) came SCREAMING out of the north, went south to the end of that row, spun around, and started slowly making their way back. They passed through the north (one spotting me), and went off-map.

It was actually pretty funny.
Now I'm going to start digging into how is it some defending tanks can cross that dashed line in the south (specifically section C), make it around to attack the 'attackers' from behind and NOT get GameArtied...  Every time I try, I die. :-)
 







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