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Almighty_Johnson #1 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 01:25

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Really guys?  :amazed:

I mean, seriously Wargaming, really? 

Are you that out of touch with the world?  It's not bad enough that you can't look at the advertised stats and realize they are so beyond worst in class that it's almost like a glitch that needs to be debugged.

Didn't every single CC doing a video asking if this was a joke, clue you in?

If the in game data from the test server didn't show you how ridiculously, hilariously, inanely outclassed these new tanks are, then you need to fire your entire Dev team, because they just pranked the entire company and your entire player base.  I am just in awe at how ludicrous this line is. 

You nerfed Light Tanks when the top tier lights were introduced (no, we didn't forget that).  Then you added another whole line of physics and reality defying clown cars that further made the existing light tanks even more irrelevant.  Now, you insult the intelligence of every single member of the game community with this travesty of a tank line.  I'm a few games into the Setter and I'm completely floored at how much worse it plays than it's already abysmal stats.  A tier 7 tank that performs like a Tier 4?  Really?

 

The Setter is as far as I will go in this line till they get a major, complete rework.  You already suckered me into grinding XP on my Cromwell to unlock this, I won't wast more XP on the line till you fix it.  I never expected them to be OP, or even Awesome.  I just wanted them to be playable.... :(

 

I'm insulted and sorely disappointed in Wargaming.  For Shame Guys.  



Selkmanam #2 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 01:30

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ssshh, if people cry too much they will work to make this tank better or worse, nerf every other light.

Tedsc #3 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 01:37

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I cannot believe I wasted the time building up 60K xp in Cromwell for this hot garbage Setter.  Stock experience is EXCRUCIATING! and it costs a massive fortune in xp just to get it upgraded to something usable.  Meanwhile you are in loss after loss after loss after loss after loss after loss because you have no ability to affect the battle stock and are ALWAYS bottom [edited]tier!

dominator_98 #4 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 01:41

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Bad and buffed later >>> stupidly broken from release.

 

I wish they'd made the v4 and other such tanks bad initially and then buffed them later instead of putting them into the game in an overpowered state.



heavymetal1967 #5 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 02:15

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There is no reason for the Rip Van Winkle reload other than so you don't run out of ammo because of the ammo count.

 

Which also there is no reason for including "that many rounds won't fit". 

 

Look at some of the other tanks and their ammo counts.



Almighty_Johnson #6 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 02:43

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Just for a point of comparison, this tank (the Setter) at Tier 7, is so pathetic it's on a par with the Covenanter (at Tier 4)

Literally.

Here's the side by side:



Goliath2K #7 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 20:10

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i made a post about how i would rebalance the setter but obviously some boot licker says " they are PUrE sCOut " , if its bad its bad! there is no going around it and if Wg wanted pure scouts they really need to play their own game because the current meta does not allow for such a thing.

spotted_T34 #8 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 22:13

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Well I am on board with this topic. I am trying to get a good game in the "Shetter". Wow, it's a challenge because it sucks.  The wheelies kick its [edited]. The tier 4's kick its [edited]. Any tier 6 light is better in just about every way. WG, you're drunk. Go home. At least give them enough ammo.

Almighty_Johnson #9 Posted Aug 09 2019 - 14:25

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Here's a beautiful example.  Clause played them with his Sheriffs account.  He used crews with ALL the skills and perks, and they still suck.

He did the Tier 7 and 8 in this one.  Tomorrow he's coming back with the 9 and 10.

 



Almighty_Johnson #10 Posted Aug 10 2019 - 13:27

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And another:

And Another:

Come on Wargaming...   Ball's in your court.  Try and justify why these tanks are such steaming piles of crap and who are you going to fire over it?



Tedsc #11 Posted Aug 10 2019 - 14:27

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I have tried being a passive spotter I really have.  The camo is up to the task but the main problem is it (the Setter) is so slow (both out of the hole and at top speed) compared to other lights that you cannot get to forward positions in time to actually scout passively most of the time.  And once you are spotted you are completely screwed.

 

Maneuverability  of the setter is like the titanic, it is so slow at the moment of inertia and lets not even talk about trying to shoot your way out of that situation.

 

So basically you have a new dynamic which the tank is to slow to effectively do, and you cannot leverage any of the other characteristics of the light tank class to be able to get out of trouble....



Tedsc #12 Posted Aug 10 2019 - 14:33

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View PostAlmighty_Johnson, on Aug 10 2019 - 13:27, said:

And another:

And Another:

Come on Wargaming...   Ball's in your court.  Try and justify why these tanks are such steaming piles of crap and who are you going to fire over it?

Circonflex's video in the Setter where he DOES effectively passive scout is hilarious.  Gets to forward position then sits for a few minutes.... Like mid game go get something to eat camping and wracks up spotting damage.  He doesn't go AFK, but he does talk about how boring it is to passive scout and that leads to the next step which is people wracking XP/credits while AFK with these things.



Tedsc #13 Posted Aug 10 2019 - 14:50

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I also notice that Setters run into a LOT of T71s.  The T71s have better speed, better tank traverse, better ground resistance and better view range so they can get to positions to passively scout better than the passive scout experts.  Critically the T71's also have the ability to escape if that forward position is spotted.

 

I think the rate of fire is enough to make people use these more as passive scouts, why are these tanks so inferior to other lights of there tier in EVERYTHING else?  They need to at least move and handle like the competition to be effective and you can't by a long shot.



Asiaticus #14 Posted Aug 10 2019 - 16:10

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Well, everyone said they didn't want new tank lines to power creep the game. Wargaming has definitely delivered in that respect.

FearTheBadger #15 Posted Aug 10 2019 - 16:49

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I actually like the Setter I play it basically as a support tank or second level scout.  Face it you need to grind to the big turret and tracks and gun to be useful.   Its  slow and sluggish and not a really good front line scout.  

 

That is my 2 cents.  :)



_Red_Saaryn_ #16 Posted Aug 10 2019 - 18:43

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I'm just laughing because now they know what playing a Lowe at tier 10 feels like

Almighty_Johnson #17 Posted Aug 10 2019 - 22:23

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View PostFearTheBadger, on Aug 10 2019 - 10:49, said:

I actually like the Setter I play it basically as a support tank or second level scout.  Face it you need to grind to the big turret and tracks and gun to be useful.   Its  slow and sluggish and not a really good front line scout.  

 

That is my 2 cents.  :)

Brother, I free XP'd all the modules when I bought it.  It has the same or worse side by side stats as the Covenanter at Tier 4.....   There is no defending this piece of crap.  And the line never gets better.  If anything it slowly gets worse all the way up.  The Manitcore should be at Tier 6 

 



RC_1140 #18 Posted Aug 10 2019 - 23:17

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View Post_Red_Saaryn_, on Aug 10 2019 - 09:43, said:

I'm just laughing because now they know what playing a Lowe at tier 10 feels like

Lowe is good at fighting tier 10's. Might be one of the best t8 heavies for fighting t10's.



Almighty_Johnson #19 Posted Aug 11 2019 - 02:36

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View PostRC_1140, on Aug 10 2019 - 17:17, said:

Lowe is good at fighting tier 10's. Might be one of the best t8 heavies for fighting t10's.

Since the buff, I'd agree.  Side Scrapes like an E75.  If it can pen a tier 10, it's a boss tank at Tier 8



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I really liked my Covenanter and was sad to sell it to make garage space. I kept the crew for as long as I could, but I never foresaw any high tier British light tanks coming around. When they did show up I regretted respecking the crew for another tank line.

 

Not any more.






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