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Griffon327327 #1 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 06:48

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Swift move wargaming

 

The only protection from zealous noobs team killing us all the time was patience and letting them turn blue so that us veteran players can deal with them according to wargaming rules

 

which states when a friendly turns blue he is NO longer a friendly and considered an enemy by all and you can shoot him and kill him with no penalty

 

by removing team damage wargaming made it impossible for the players to police the battlefield and deal with team killers because tens of thousands of frustrated players are now pushing players across the map and into enemy fire to be spotted like never before and if you so happen to have a lighter tank there is NOTHING you can do about it

 

and do not say screenshot and replay and physics abuse because I have been doing that for years and checking up to see if players ever get banned and they do not

 

physics abuse ticket should work in theory but wargaming never pnalizes players that spend money and that is period even players in top clans caught cheating do not get banned they simply lose any points from clan activities

 

everyone thought removing team damage would be a good thing ? just wait till you have a hundred thousand people pushing you around in battles non stop because they find that nothing ever happens to them



dunniteowl #2 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 06:52

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You cannot be this stupid on purpose.

 

 

OvO



PTwr #3 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 07:00

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View Postdunniteowl, on Aug 08 2019 - 05:52, said:

You cannot be this stupid on purpose.

He is very dedicated toward his goal. 



shaggy996 #4 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 07:09

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actually pushing a team mate out is the big thing now. they can do it with no worry of being shot. 

 



heavymetal1967 #5 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 07:10

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View Postdunniteowl, on Aug 08 2019 - 01:52, said:

You cannot be this stupid on purpose.

 

 

OvO

 

Wanna bet?

 

 



Ericmopar #6 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 07:33

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Told people weeks ago, based on experience in Blitz, that this would happen. People shove you out around corners in lighter vehicles all the time in Blitz, for no penalty. Platoons of goons are really bad about it, to the point that some Blitz players have asked for the return of team killing blues, or at least eliminating tank platoons.

 


Edited by Ericmopar, Aug 08 2019 - 07:34.


BlaqWolf #7 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 07:41

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View Postshaggy996, on Aug 08 2019 - 00:09, said:

actually pushing a team mate out is the big thing now. they can do it with no worry of being shot. 

 

Indeed.
They need to implement a 'recovery' mode that can be used when you're being pushed.  Activating it anchors your vehicle in place, it can no longer be pushed no matter what it weighs or what's pushing it.  If an *enemy* is pushing an anchored vehicle they both take standard ram/crush damage (with the heavier vehicle doing more damage).
The added bonus is that, when activated within 10m of an overturned vehicle 'links' the deploying vehicle to the overturned one and can then pull it upright if it's got superior weight/horsepower.  Unlike the crap in that other game this does not haul the overturned vehicle around willy nilly, it just rolls it in place until it's upright whereupon the recovery mode is deactivated.



Leopardus_parsalis #8 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 07:47

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@Griffon327327 : Rarely more then 25k players on on the US-servers.

pls explain how you could be pushed by " onehundredthousand" players? And no more then 15 per team in randoms.

I`m rather sure to find a Fox-News-like explanation. 



Volcanic_lobster_220 #9 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 08:02

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View PostBlaqWolf, on Aug 08 2019 - 07:41, said:

Indeed.
They need to implement a 'recovery' mode that can be used when you're being pushed.  Activating it anchors your vehicle in place, it can no longer be pushed no matter what it weighs or what's pushing it.  If an *enemy* is pushing an anchored vehicle they both take standard ram/crush damage (with the heavier vehicle doing more damage).
The added bonus is that, when activated within 10m of an overturned vehicle 'links' the deploying vehicle to the overturned one and can then pull it upright if it's got superior weight/horsepower.  Unlike the crap in that other game this does not haul the overturned vehicle around willy nilly, it just rolls it in place until it's upright whereupon the recovery mode is deactivated.

THIS ^^^

Smartest idea i've seen in a while, i'd really like this! the anchor idea is nice, could easily be assigned to one of the keys, and BIG detail you pointed about it only being usable when you're being pushed, or else it'd be easily be used by trolls to block someone.



SporkBoy #10 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 08:05

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Played 58 games today and didn't see a single instance of griefing. Unlike yesterday.

Trakks #11 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 08:09

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That's not how some CC's are saying how it works. Some of them are saying that yes, you can still turn blue and if you do, you will lose your own protection from team damage so your teammates can still take you out of the game without you being able to shoot back. 

Bootknife #12 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 09:18

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This game, like the real world, is going down hill in a big hurry.  If you're expecting common sense or common courtesy, neither are common any more...

JakeTheMystic #13 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 09:23

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Typically I dont agree with Griffon, but he's got a point and I've been preaching this since they first announced the removal of team damage. 

 

I was mostly on edge about the idea, most of the time it doesnt matter since TK'ing is rare from what I've experienced. Though I have had my fair share of getting pushed into the enemy and I'd say its 500x more common than team damage. 

 

It's always been 1v29 and it always will be, with or without friendly fire.



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Haven't been pushed around a corner or out of a bush in months. It started happening yesterday.

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View PostSporkBoy, on Aug 08 2019 - 08:05, said:

Played 58 games today and didn't see a single instance of griefing. Unlike yesterday.

 

I've never really had a problem with team damage/kills but yesterday I was pushed out of cover twice. As it happened no red tanks was around to shoot me and I'm not even certain that was the intent or if they just pushed me away to get the spot knowing there was little I could do about in the tank I was playing

 

Coincidence.... perhaps, time will tell



Xplato #16 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 11:20

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I don't see a problem with using the 14 bots on your team as meat shields.

Norseskald #17 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 12:55

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View PostLeopardus_parsalis, on Aug 08 2019 - 07:47, said:

@Griffon327327 : Rarely more then 25k players on on the US-servers.

pls explain how you could be pushed by " onehundredthousand" players? And no more then 15 per team in randoms.

I`m rather sure to find a Fox-News-like explanation. 

your probably looking for cnn and msnbc take on it



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View PostGriffon327327, on Aug 08 2019 - 00:48, said:

Swift move wargaming

 

The only protection from zealous noobs team killing us all the time was patience and letting them turn blue so that us veteran players can deal with them according to wargaming rules

 

which states when a friendly turns blue he is NO longer a friendly and considered an enemy by all and you can shoot him and kill him with no penalty

 

by removing team damage wargaming made it impossible for the players to police the battlefield and deal with team killers because tens of thousands of frustrated players are now pushing players across the map and into enemy fire to be spotted like never before and if you so happen to have a lighter tank there is NOTHING you can do about it

 

and do not say screenshot and replay and physics abuse because I have been doing that for years and checking up to see if players ever get banned and they do not

 

physics abuse ticket should work in theory but wargaming never pnalizes players that spend money and that is period even players in top clans caught cheating do not get banned they simply lose any points from clan activities

 

everyone thought removing team damage would be a good thing ? just wait till you have a hundred thousand people pushing you around in battles non stop because they find that nothing ever happens to them

 

So basically you submit a ticket with video of the physics abuse, and move on, as per usual.

 

Quit being so utterly daft.



Kani_Bist #19 Posted Aug 08 2019 - 13:34

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View PostNorseskald, on Aug 08 2019 - 06:55, said:

your probably looking for cnn and msnbc take on it


BUT MOMMY, JOHNNY JOE DID IT TOO............



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View PostQuicksilverJPR, on Aug 08 2019 - 12:28, said:

 

So basically you submit a ticket with video of the physics abuse, and move on, as per usual.

 

Quit being so utterly daft.

 

Think Wargaming has the time to review every ticket? With the automated team damage it was more cost effective and efficient. 






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