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Markd73 #21 Posted Aug 11 2019 - 20:10

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View PostRHeadshot, on Aug 11 2019 - 18:52, said:

Yep.  If WG would punish the trolls, then I'd have a way to deal with them.  As is, it's either put up with their crap or leave.  I leave.

 

But I'm pretty sure WG has told people to just walk away from the computer for a bit and the trolls will then leave you alone, so basically I'm doing what WG suggested since they're too spineless to stop the trolls.

 

Well hopefully you earn a ban for screwing your team over.



TeamTerrible #22 Posted Aug 11 2019 - 20:13

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View PostBig_Nasty_Ceech, on Aug 11 2019 - 10:22, said:

Teammates simply drive right in front of your shots now without a care in the world.  Real cool wargaming, way to delete a realistic and very much needed aspect to the game.  #FAILGAMING

 

Yup.....and you can ping them over and over with "you are blocking my line of fire" and get 0 reaction whereas before if you perform the same step and hit them it was instant reaction.

 

So now you have people who cannot read and you are wasting your shots on your so-called team mate's backside.

 

= double negative.

 

 



Mojo_Riesing #23 Posted Aug 11 2019 - 21:15

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View PostBig_Nasty_Ceech, on Aug 11 2019 - 08:05, said:


My rationale wasn't convoluted and had nothing to do with tradition.  No team damage has a serious impact to the game and the way it's played.  You can offer your response to my original post and I'm willing to consider it, but dismissing my point calling it a "convoluted rationale" is complete nonsense. 

 

Did you actually think i was talking about you...specifically? I said "rational reason", not moronic rant which is actually all you offered.  I wasn't dismissing you, i wasn't even thinking about you.



Mojo_Riesing #24 Posted Aug 11 2019 - 21:19

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View PostRHeadshot, on Aug 11 2019 - 08:09, said:

What do you suggest people do to trolls, then, given WG refuses to do a damn thing about it?  Because, as of now, the moment someone trolls me, I leave the game.  So which would you rather have from a teammate:  someone who shoots a troll once or twice, or someone who just leaves altogether?


 

Bottom line is this is a problem exacerbated by WG's brutal failure in enforcing its rules.

 

That's obvious. Now you can mostly ignore them, they can't "hurt" your tank with gunfire. Now report them for physics abuse.  Shooting them was never an option and please tell us all how well it was working in the past.  I agree WG needs to enforce it's rules, having rules you won't enforce is worse than none at all.  I hope that by eliminating what seems to have been the BULK of infractions WG will have more time for others.  Only time will tell on that..



cloudwalkr #25 Posted Aug 11 2019 - 21:22

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View PostBig_Nasty_Ceech, on Aug 11 2019 - 16:22, said:

Teammates simply drive right in front of your shots now without a care in the world.  Real cool wargaming, way to delete a realistic and very much needed aspect to the game.  #FAILGAMING


team dmg was never a real issue, therefor it was a huge problem.



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View PostMojo_Riesing, on Aug 11 2019 - 21:19, said:

 

That's obvious. Now you can mostly ignore them, they can't "hurt" your tank with gunfire. Now report them for physics abuse.  Shooting them was never an option and please tell us all how well it was working in the past.  I agree WG needs to enforce it's rules, having rules you won't enforce is worse than none at all.  I hope that by eliminating what seems to have been the BULK of infractions WG will have more time for others.  Only time will tell on that..

Worked fine in the past.  WG doesn't do a thing about most physics abuse, and there's a lot of ways to troll besides the [edited]that goes on in chat almost every game.  Glad you can ignore it.  I just won't put up with it.  That you guys don't like it doesn't bother me a bit, since you really don't seem to give a damn that this idiotic move by WG has only given the trolls more ability to harass people.



Mojo_Riesing #27 Posted Aug 11 2019 - 21:38

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View PostRHeadshot, on Aug 11 2019 - 12:29, said:

Worked fine in the past.  WG doesn't do a thing about most physics abuse, and there's a lot of ways to troll besides the [edited]that goes on in chat almost every game.  Glad you can ignore it.  I just won't put up with it.  That you guys don't like it doesn't bother me a bit, since you really don't seem to give a damn that this idiotic move by WG has only given the trolls more ability to harass people.

 

Trolls don't need reasons, they fling their nastiness indiscriminately hoping something will stick.  Trolls gotta troll i guess.  On the other hand, inflicting purposeful team damage WAS a fast and easy way to do that, and often one without consequences.  WG could either say TK'ing was ok, or just remove the ability at all. Removing it was the better option.  We'll see how enforcement of rules violations go after this...



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View PostMojo_Riesing, on Aug 11 2019 - 21:38, said:

 

Trolls don't need reasons, they fling their nastiness indiscriminately hoping something will stick.  Trolls gotta troll i guess.  On the other hand, inflicting purposeful team damage WAS a fast and easy way to do that, and often one without consequences.  WG could either say TK'ing was ok, or just remove the ability at all. Removing it was the better option.  We'll see how enforcement of rules violations go after this...

They had an automated system that actually worked pretty well.  It's the only rules enforcement that worked pretty well, so team damage wasn't really a problem to begin with.  Didn't help, though, when some unnamed genius at WG started suspending players for shooting blue teammates.


Edited by RHeadshot, Aug 11 2019 - 21:45.


RealBattousai #29 Posted Aug 11 2019 - 23:44

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View Postthe_dude_76, on Aug 11 2019 - 10:57, said:

 

Pushing people off of cliffs still causes team damage, there is no way he got away with doing it more than once...

 

At least not in this case, maybe the drop was not enough to cause damage.

 

Edit: see below, he did cause dmg, I didn't notice the first time in game, but see it now in the replay.


Edited by RealBattousai, Aug 11 2019 - 23:56.


RealBattousai #30 Posted Aug 11 2019 - 23:55

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View PostVooDooKobra, on Aug 11 2019 - 11:58, said:

 

do you have a replay of this?  pushing people off clifs supposedly can turn a player blue and they lose their immunity to friendly fire, i will have to find it but i believe there is a post where a guy does turn blue drowning a team mate

 

 

Here you go sir...

 

http://wotreplays.eu...v4201_chieftain

 

And yes you're correct on watching again he did do damage when pushing the teammate off the cliff, but not enough to turn blue.



VooDooKobra #31 Posted Aug 12 2019 - 00:37

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View PostRealBattousai, on Aug 11 2019 - 15:55, said:

 

Here you go sir...

 

http://wotreplays.eu...v4201_chieftain

 

And yes you're correct on watching again he did do damage when pushing the teammate off the cliff, but not enough to turn blue.

 

very interesting watch

 

first of all great game 

 

there were points in that game where i was wondering how he wasnt doing damage to that 183, also when the e100 drowned himself and then started to trash talk the team i was laughing my [edited]off.    seriously, do nothing, drown yourself and then talk smack?  this guy is a career troll from what i can find.  he probably would have pushed somebody team damage or no

 

i am on a few different groups on facebook, would you object to my sharing this replay?


Edited by VooDooKobra, Aug 12 2019 - 00:38.


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View PostVooDooKobra, on Aug 11 2019 - 18:37, said:

i am on a few different groups on facebook, would you object to my sharing this replay?

 

have at it lol :)



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View PostRealBattousai, on Aug 11 2019 - 17:47, said:

 

have at it lol :)

much appreciation sir



Mojo_Riesing #34 Posted Aug 12 2019 - 04:52

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View PostPhilotes, on Aug 11 2019 - 17:24, said:

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Well, about time the voice of reason showed up. Glad everything is settled now.  :facepalm:


Edited by HeadlockMvnky, Aug 12 2019 - 15:38.


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Let's be real...  The ONLY reason you all want team damage is so you can shoot your teammates when you don't like what they are doing.

 

It serves no purpose other than causing grief, even if accidental.  PERIOD.

Thus, good riddance.

 

I've been using the mod forever, and haven't missed a thing.

While it still allowed for accidents, not really much difference.

 

You all should look at it positively, now you can do "trick shots".



Markd73 #36 Posted Aug 12 2019 - 19:14

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View PostCenturionMBT24, on Aug 12 2019 - 15:44, said:

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That is a lot of racist yelling. Enjoy your report.


Edited by HeadlockMvnky, Aug 12 2019 - 21:28.


Jead #37 Posted Aug 12 2019 - 20:06

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View PostCenturionMBT24, on Aug 12 2019 - 15:44, said:

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Reel it in Centurion -- We don't condone any race, religion or politics in TS and certainly not in the forums.... Let alone yelling


Edited by HeadlockMvnky, Aug 12 2019 - 21:29.


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I have only played three games this update and twice I was trolled and pushed into the line of fire. And with the removal of team dmg there was nothing I could do because they had a bigger tank in both situations. Normally you could track your "team mate" nd get around them, but with the removal of team dmg this is going to be a huge problem in world of tanks. There was team dmg for a reason and removing it made the trolling way worse. The game is unenjoyable and I will not play aging until they return team dmg or useable report systum.

 

 



ElOtroViejo #39 Posted Aug 14 2019 - 00:42

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Team damage makes the game faaar more realistic, it is a pity it is removed, trolls aside

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View PostBig_Nasty_Ceech, on Aug 11 2019 - 15:22, said:

Teammates simply drive right in front of your shots now without a care in the world.  Real cool wargaming, way to delete a realistic and very much needed aspect to the game.  #FAILGAMING


Wait - what? Doesn't work on arty right? Otherwise I could lob shells into a fraces and only damage the red tanks and not my own. What about HE splash from non-arty? I don't really want to try this in game.






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