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Hellsfog #61 Posted Aug 16 2019 - 19:09

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View PostShadowPatriot, on Aug 16 2019 - 12:57, said:


It's not up to wargaming. Its up to the greedy clans. To share and make the clan wars fun. You think players are going to keep fighting for lless then 750 gold for 30 days?  you guys want tovincrease the land gold to 120 ? Why why not move off and let a small clan have land instead of asking for more free stuff.

I guess it wasn't all about helping the victims of a horrible crime after all. 



Zero_o7 #62 Posted Aug 16 2019 - 19:24

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View PostHellsfog, on Aug 16 2019 - 13:09, said:

I guess it wasn't all about helping the victims of a horrible crime after all. 

They lost their land now cw is evil. F



mojave #63 Posted Aug 16 2019 - 19:30

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I would be okay with removing property from the europe side of the map to add gold to africa to allow for all those provinces to be 120. Ie remove 120's from europe and replace 24's in africa with 120's. I liked the firefly lz idea tbh. As far as clans getting off gold for other clans who otherwise would struggle to get it to have some. Ya no. If you want 7k gold a day then go take land that gets you 7k. You dont beg your boss for money. You work for your boss.

Tyriant #64 Posted Aug 16 2019 - 20:08

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The reason why I did this to donate to the victims so we could have did something togather as a community. To help a community. But hey, it is what is it. greed is what this community is anymore. You guys could not even help a clan out that was trying to do something nice. 

 

My guys been battling every night to keep that land we had, it  was only 340 gold. And we were mapped by cube. Who is banking over 7,000 gold a day. And they had there land somewhere else, they attacked and mapped us because they were bored. half my guys tanks were locked out because not like some of the top clans, we been defending. Thank you youjo for your help, I will make sure when I send the donate to add you guys :).  



Zero_o7 #65 Posted Aug 16 2019 - 20:31

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View PostShadowPatriot, on Aug 16 2019 - 14:08, said:

The reason why I did this to donate to the victims so we could have did something togather as a community. To help a community. But hey, it is what is it. greed is what this community is anymore. You guys could not even help a clan out that was trying to do something nice. 

 

My guys been battling every night to keep that land we had, it  was only 340 gold. And we were mapped by cube. Who is banking over 7,000 gold a day. And they had there land somewhere else, they attacked and mapped us because they were bored. half my guys tanks were locked out because not like some of the top clans, we been defending. Thank you youjo for your help, I will make sure when I send the donate to add you guys :).  

I'm sorry I am not our clan diplo nor do I run our global map so help me understand. Why is it youjos fault cube mapped you? I would like to know the full situation. Edit: I thought that was sarcasm xd



Tyriant #66 Posted Aug 17 2019 - 16:03

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Here a few thoughts my clan members came up with.
Keep global map lands the same.
Turn all value of entire global map lands to 0 gold daily.
Limit tank div to 5 free divs.
No more every gold you get you get victory point, victory points should be earn by completing missions.
No more Influence.
Introduce a new feature called war tokens.
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New Global Map Store
If you want more tank divs it will cost 3,500 War tokens. Max tank divs you can have is 10.
Increase your land gold income on the global map costs tokens. (Lands gold income max limit is 1,000)
100 Tokens - 100 Gold increase every time
To Increase your max gold per land you must pay 20 bucks real money - anybody who over a Combat officer can buy this or 5,000 tokens.
Will increase it from 1,000 to 2,000  max limit 
 
500 Tokens to Decrease your HQ Cool Down From 48 Hours to 24 Hours
500 Tokens  to Decrease tank lock out from 72 hours to 24 Hours
(If you HQ is destoryed you must rebuy the HQ cool down and tank lock out again.)
To Increase Your tokens earning in strongholds - Anybody in your clan can buy them. They go in with your clan bonus boosters
2 Hours Earn 25% More Tokens = 30 Bucks real Money
1 Hour Earn 10% More Tokens = 20 Bucks real Money
Trade In war tokens for bonds
During clan wars season, you can trade in every 5,000 tokens for 1,000 bonds in your clan treasury, and you can give them to your clan mates as rewards for mini season clan wars tanks for that auction bid.
 

(If you have a Perm account on tanks you will earn 1 to 2 war tokens in pub matches for a win and how you did in that match - tier 10 only)
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Tokens Treasury:
Tokens don't go away once a season is over they stay in your tokens treasury forever.
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Revolts:
It will cost 150 tokens to decrease unrest On your lands 1 Bar
It will cost 100 tokens to increase unrest on a land.
 
Losing Your HQ:
If you lose your HQ on the global map, you lose 500 tokens.
 
Destroying a clan HQ
If you clan destroy a clan HQ You will earn 250 tokens
 
Pulling HQ off global map:
If you pull your HQ off the global map you lose 250 tokens.
 
Ran sacking:
Ran sacking feature is turned off.
 
Earn War Tokens From:
Strongholds.
Tier 8
Wins a match get 35 tokens.
Lose a Match get 15 tokens.
Tier 6
Wins a match get 15 tokens.
Lose a Match get 5 tokens.
 
Earning Tokens From Clan Wars:
New Tokens Missions:
50 Tokens For doing 245,000 Damage Total  
50 Tokens For every 150 kills you get
50 Tokens for every 25,000 Base Exp you earn
 
New Gold Missions:
100 Gold For doing 250,000 Damage Total   Can only Complete 10 Times
100 Gold For every 150 kills you get - can only complete 10 Times
100 Gold for every 25,000 Base Exp you earn - can only complete 10 times
You must use 3,000 tokens to reset the gold missions
 
Victory Points Missions:
100 Victory Points For doing 150,000 Damage Total  
100 Victory Points For every 150 kills you get
100 Victory Points for every 25,000 Base Exp you earn
 
Losing and Taking land:
If you lose land on the global map, you lose 100 tokens from your clan treasury
if you win land from another clan, the land is resetted back to 0 and you earn 100 tokens.
 
Holding Land:
After you hold land for 5 Days, the gold income will decrease by 100.
To reincrease the land gold it will cost 100 tokens.
 

No Shows:
if you clan no shows in a battle You lose
1st a warning then
250 War Tokens
400 Victory Points
Every time you no show
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Ghost Clans -
If anybody caught using a ghost clan that clan commander account is banned from the game.
You can't redrop on the global map once you hold land on the global map.
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Tank Rentals Tier 10
You can be able to rent a tier 10, either 30 bucks a season or what 30 bucks is in gold.
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Playoffs & Rewards
Top 30 Clans Get Into the playoffs
6 Wildcards clans get in with a token auction bid ( auction bid last only 3 days after clan wars is over)

Winner and clans who fought in the playoffs will earn clan wars tanks, Bonds, Gold, boosters, credits and war tokens.
No Mods allowed if you fight in the playoffs.
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Seasons lasts every 6 Months with a 6 months off season with the mini season somewhere in there.
 
 
if everyone goes with this idea, you can start to earn war tokens in strongholds and pub matches starting in sept.  next season of clan wars October 1st. 


lozarus #67 Posted Aug 17 2019 - 16:37

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What role would diplomacy play in this? for example, if i wanted to threaten someone's clan with destruction, would i be able to do it informally, or should i just PM the victims of my wrath, and tell them that i'm going to send MAHOU to destroy them if they don't comply with giving me something for free, since my clan is not good enough to do it themselves? - Serious question. 
 

However, i believe that this thead is supposed to be for feedback on this campaign season (ways in which things are working now), rather than redrawing an entire new set of features, your suggestion is probably off-topic. 
Also, i'm not sure that creating another currency in "War Tokens" is an idea that the community would support, although i do give you® clan credit in coming up with ideas and features for improvement. 

 



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View Postlozarus, on Aug 17 2019 - 10:37, said:

What role would diplomacy play in this? for example, if i wanted to threaten someone's clan with destruction, would i be able to do it informally, or should i just PM the victims of my wrath, and tell them that i'm going to send MAHOU to destroy them if they don't comply with giving me something for free, since my clan is not good enough to do it themselves? - Serious question. 
 

However, i believe that this thead is supposed to be for feedback on this campaign season (ways in which things are working now), rather than redrawing an entire new set of features, your suggestion is probably off-topic. 
Also, i'm not sure that creating another currency in "War Tokens" is an idea that the community would support, although i do give you® clan credit in coming up with ideas and features for improvement. 

 


this is what big brother said

 

Tankers,

 

The Global Map has been open for a few days and we have started Season 12.

 

Normally, I wait to get feedback until the end but since this season is a little different I wanted to get your "first thoughts".

 

Specifically, what do you think of:

 

The map and province distribution (including fireflies)

 

The rules - most importantly the division cost and limits

 

Other thoughts

 

GLHF,

 

Big



Nokturnus #69 Posted Aug 17 2019 - 17:56

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Edited

can we please stay on topic.

 

 


Edited by CrimsonTiberius, Aug 17 2019 - 18:29.


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View PostShadowPatriot, on Aug 17 2019 - 15:48, said:

this is what big brother said

 

Tankers,

 

The Global Map has been open for a few days and we have started Season 12.

 

Normally, I wait to get feedback until the end but since this season is a little different I wanted to get your "first thoughts".

 

Specifically, what do you think of:

 

The map and province distribution (including fireflies)

 

The rules - most importantly the division cost and limits

 

Other thoughts

 

GLHF,

 

Big


Ahh, so your idea comes under "other thoughts". 

Any response to my first question? 



Zero_o7 #71 Posted Aug 17 2019 - 18:14

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View PostCrimsonTiberius, on Aug 17 2019 - 11:56, said:

 

Was not Zero_07 bad mouthing relic during the offseason back in july ?  he was commander of QUACK, guess that clan fell apart during the offseason 

Now he here trying to act cool since he is now with YOUJO.

 

http://forum.worldof...6#entry12195426

 

also 

Hellsfog

 

here something i found on the forums. 

 

https://s3.amazonaws...hellfroglol.jpg

 

 

I never change my opinions over what clan I am in. Quack activity fell apart and nobody was motivated to fix it so I went somewhere better. I dont see why that would be a bad thing. But again this is getting off topic, how could we improve cw. Honestly we should put ransacking on it feels really strange that it isnt.



Narwl_Legend_Emu #72 Posted Aug 17 2019 - 18:41

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Is it me or does shadows idea actually sound P2W

Tyriant #73 Posted Aug 17 2019 - 18:50

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View PostNarwl_Legend_Emu, on Aug 17 2019 - 12:41, said:

Is it me or does shadows idea actually sound P2W


This idea is way better then what we have going on right now. 



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View PostZero_o7, on Aug 16 2019 - 13:24, said:

They lost their land now cw is evil. F


we had 3 pieces of land in the 10 o clock hour, 3 - 24 golds  we decided to pull off the map since this global map season is pointless.  We lost our 340 one at the 9:15 hour, so we were not mapped. 



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View PostShadowPatriot, on Aug 17 2019 - 10:03, said:

Here a few thoughts my clan members came up with.
Keep global map lands the same.
Turn all value of entire global map lands to 0 gold daily.
Limit tank div to 5 free divs.
No more every gold you get you get victory point, victory points should be earn by completing missions.
No more Influence.
Introduce a new feature called war tokens.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
New Global Map Store
If you want more tank divs it will cost 3,500 War tokens. Max tank divs you can have is 10.
Increase your land gold income on the global map costs tokens. (Lands gold income max limit is 1,000)
100 Tokens - 100 Gold increase every time
To Increase your max gold per land you must pay 20 bucks real money - anybody who over a Combat officer can buy this or 5,000 tokens.
Will increase it from 1,000 to 2,000  max limit 
 
500 Tokens to Decrease your HQ Cool Down From 48 Hours to 24 Hours
500 Tokens  to Decrease tank lock out from 72 hours to 24 Hours
(If you HQ is destoryed you must rebuy the HQ cool down and tank lock out again.)
To Increase Your tokens earning in strongholds - Anybody in your clan can buy them. They go in with your clan bonus boosters
2 Hours Earn 25% More Tokens = 30 Bucks real Money
1 Hour Earn 10% More Tokens = 20 Bucks real Money
Trade In war tokens for bonds
During clan wars season, you can trade in every 5,000 tokens for 1,000 bonds in your clan treasury, and you can give them to your clan mates as rewards for mini season clan wars tanks for that auction bid.
 

(If you have a Perm account on tanks you will earn 1 to 2 war tokens in pub matches for a win and how you did in that match - tier 10 only)
---------------------------------
Tokens Treasury:
Tokens don't go away once a season is over they stay in your tokens treasury forever.
---------------------------------------------------
Revolts:
It will cost 150 tokens to decrease unrest On your lands 1 Bar
It will cost 100 tokens to increase unrest on a land.
 
Losing Your HQ:
If you lose your HQ on the global map, you lose 500 tokens.
 
Destroying a clan HQ
If you clan destroy a clan HQ You will earn 250 tokens
 
Pulling HQ off global map:
If you pull your HQ off the global map you lose 250 tokens.
 
Ran sacking:
Ran sacking feature is turned off.
 
Earn War Tokens From:
Strongholds.
Tier 8
Wins a match get 35 tokens.
Lose a Match get 15 tokens.
Tier 6
Wins a match get 15 tokens.
Lose a Match get 5 tokens.
 
Earning Tokens From Clan Wars:
New Tokens Missions:
50 Tokens For doing 245,000 Damage Total  
50 Tokens For every 150 kills you get
50 Tokens for every 25,000 Base Exp you earn
 
New Gold Missions:
100 Gold For doing 250,000 Damage Total   Can only Complete 10 Times
100 Gold For every 150 kills you get - can only complete 10 Times
100 Gold for every 25,000 Base Exp you earn - can only complete 10 times
You must use 3,000 tokens to reset the gold missions
 
Victory Points Missions:
100 Victory Points For doing 150,000 Damage Total  
100 Victory Points For every 150 kills you get
100 Victory Points for every 25,000 Base Exp you earn
 
Losing and Taking land:
If you lose land on the global map, you lose 100 tokens from your clan treasury
if you win land from another clan, the land is resetted back to 0 and you earn 100 tokens.
 
Holding Land:
After you hold land for 5 Days, the gold income will decrease by 100.
To reincrease the land gold it will cost 100 tokens.
 

No Shows:
if you clan no shows in a battle You lose
1st a warning then
250 War Tokens
400 Victory Points
Every time you no show
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ghost Clans -
If anybody caught using a ghost clan that clan commander account is banned from the game.
You can't redrop on the global map once you hold land on the global map.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tank Rentals Tier 10
You can be able to rent a tier 10, either 30 bucks a season or what 30 bucks is in gold.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Playoffs & Rewards
Top 30 Clans Get Into the playoffs
6 Wildcards clans get in with a token auction bid ( auction bid last only 3 days after clan wars is over)

Winner and clans who fought in the playoffs will earn clan wars tanks, Bonds, Gold, boosters, credits and war tokens.
No Mods allowed if you fight in the playoffs.
----------------------------------------------------------------
 
Seasons lasts every 6 Months with a 6 months off season with the mini season somewhere in there.
 
 
if everyone goes with this idea, you can start to earn war tokens in strongholds and pub matches starting in sept.  next season of clan wars October 1st. 


First I don't know why you messaged me this thread in game for. Buts beings I am here now. Your idea seems like a pay to win idea to me.



Hellsfog #76 Posted Aug 17 2019 - 21:45

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View PostShadowPatriot, on Aug 17 2019 - 12:50, said:


This idea is way better then what we have going on right now. 

 Because what we have going on right now involves winning? You do realize that no matter what system WG puts in place, your clan will still have to fight and win, unless you think that is unfair. 



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View PostShadowPatriot, on Aug 17 2019 - 09:03, said:

Here a few thoughts a bunch of nonsense that my clan members I came up with.
[nonsense]

So completely throw out diplo and allow people to basically make the playoffs by buying token boosters and spamming strongholds... I cannot think of any way how a 500 ELO clan could make the playoffs! :coin:



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They need to add a feature where you can give up land.I can't even give away 24 gold provinces, no one wants them and of course, I can't burn them either


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View PostShadowPatriot, on Aug 17 2019 - 11:50, said:


This idea is way better then what we have going on right now. 

I hate to break it to you, but as long as the global map requires players to fight battles, clans full of players that aren't very good at winning battles will never do well.

 

No matter what system WG introduces, teams that simply can't win battles won't do well. At least you have Africa this season, where your clan can play other clans of similar skill level.



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View PostHellsfog, on Aug 16 2019 - 08:58, said:

D-Day is doing very much the same sort of thing but they aren't publicizing it, using it to beg for land or to avoid fights, as far as I can tell. 


We are definitely doing it because it is a good cause and the prizes this CW season are so bad that my clan needs SOMETHING to look forward to when they are spending their time and credits playing CW. We publicized it on this forum hoping that other clans would maybe do the same thing. http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/609890-good-luck-all-clans-fighting-in-s12/page__p__12221117#entry12221117

We are not begging for land or avoiding fights since the clan tasks pay more than the piddly 24 gold provinces that we are fighting the "not-top-30" clans for. You may have us confused with some other clan that is trying to copy us but doesn't actually have any CW players.






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