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705A vs Maus in Clan Wars

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KatzeWolf #1 Posted Aug 20 2019 - 14:43

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Wouldn't the 705A be a better choice over the Maus on maps were a Maus would be useful?

It has more effective armour, easier to hide the lower plate, smaller, faster and "technically" better dpm as you don't need to angle the turret away.


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JakeTheMystic #2 Posted Aug 20 2019 - 14:49

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Maus is good because its beefy with its HP. You can just group them up and shove a side and the enemy has a hard time melting through the HP. 

 

The DPM is a + for the Maus, that and its a lot more likely to bounce since the front of the 705A is easy to pen while you at least have to at least aim away from center of mass to pen the Maus. 

 

Both tanks have kind of worked their way out of the meta. Once the Type 5 was nerfed, there really hasnt been that great of a replacement except for the VK(K). Premium ammo makes heavily armored tanks irrelevant in most cases. 



KatzeWolf #3 Posted Aug 20 2019 - 14:59

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The HP I get, but the 705A has better armour and mobility.

churchill50 #4 Posted Aug 20 2019 - 17:26

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The basic fact is, both are only secondary picks for clan wars. The VK72.01(K) and Object 279(e) are the top heavy picks in clan wars.

 

However, if you had to pick one in clan wars, the Maus is top pick because of 550 extra HP, much more reliable DPM, and the ability to crush a 705A in a brawl.

The Maus is a tall enough tank that it can pen the 705A's upper plate very reliably with APCR (especially given the Maus's great gun handling). Meanwhile, between the 705A's mediocre 317 pen HEAT and its derpy gun handling, it can't reliably pen a Maus. Also, the Maus's better reload gives it the first shot advantage every time. Add to that the fact that their DPM is almost identical, but the Maus has 550 more HP, and you have a pretty strong case for the Maus being the top pick.

Also, as previously said, the Maus is used as a huge block of HP that takes a while to take down, even when pushing in the open. The 705A is an easy pen as soon as it isn't sidescraping anymore, and lacks HP.



JunkaTheAdmirable #5 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 10:09

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Maus is only useful for sidescraping a corner... yeah 705A is faster and has higher alpha but why not just use a 277 instead since it can actually push?

polerbear45 #6 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 13:56

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705a's upper front plate can be penned with most of the heat rounds being thrown around. The Maus has nearly every advantage over the 705a. The maps where you would even take these tanks don't require speed. Half the CW matches end up being camp fests, so having a gun like the Maus's that can hit tanks reliably at long range is good. Also, the 705a's gun is so derpy that even at close range you still stand a chance of the shot missing. With mediocre heat pen, you're probably going to end up bouncing a lot of shots. And, every shot fired often counts in CW.

 

The Vk 7201k has an almost unbelievable advantage over both of them. I think it's faster, has better heat rounds, higher alpha, and has armor that can shrug off a lot of heat rounds. Pick it every time over the Maus or 705a. 



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View Postpolerbear45, on Aug 21 2019 - 12:56, said:

705a's upper front plate can be penned with most of the heat rounds being thrown around. The Maus has nearly every advantage over the 705a. The maps where you would even take these tanks don't require speed. Half the CW matches end up being camp fests, so having a gun like the Maus's that can hit tanks reliably at long range is good. Also, the 705a's gun is so derpy that even at close range you still stand a chance of the shot missing. With mediocre heat pen, you're probably going to end up bouncing a lot of shots. And, every shot fired often counts in CW.

 

The Vk 7201k has an almost unbelievable advantage over both of them. I think it's faster, has better heat rounds, higher alpha, and has armor that can shrug off a lot of heat rounds. Pick it every time over the Maus or 705a. 

VKK's are only good if the clan your facing doesn't push into them. A good Maus player is still better than a VKK



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View Postchurchill50, on Aug 20 2019 - 10:26, said:

The basic fact is, both are only secondary picks for clan wars. The VK72.01(K) and Object 279(e) are the top heavy picks in clan wars.

 

However, if you had to pick one in clan wars, the Maus is top pick because of 550 extra HP, much more reliable DPM, and the ability to crush a 705A in a brawl.

The Maus is a tall enough tank that it can pen the 705A's upper plate very reliably with APCR (especially given the Maus's great gun handling). Meanwhile, between the 705A's mediocre 317 pen HEAT and its derpy gun handling, it can't reliably pen a Maus. Also, the Maus's better reload gives it the first shot advantage every time. Add to that the fact that their DPM is almost identical, but the Maus has 550 more HP, and you have a pretty strong case for the Maus being the top pick.

Also, as previously said, the Maus is used as a huge block of HP that takes a while to take down, even when pushing in the open. The 705A is an easy pen as soon as it isn't sidescraping anymore, and lacks HP.


what he said...best to take OP tanks that other players cannot get. otherwise it will depend on the situation regarding strategy map and bias and preference of caller







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