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kapri25 #1 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 02:55

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Here...Take a look.

 

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Do you see the problem WG? And yes... I was running boosters. There was 5 minutes left on my clock when I started the battle and with your system that booster is supposed to carry into the next game.



Kramah313 #2 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 03:11

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It looks like you got a personal reserves bonus, so I think it did apply the credit booster. I’m trying to figure out how with a booster on and a premium account you only earned 89,000 credits when you did almost 8,000 damage and won. I’ve never done that much damage (I think my most in frontlines is close to 6,000) and if I had a premium and a booster I’d be looking at 200,000 credits most of the time. That’s more what I’d expect on a loss with a standard account (which I have now).

 

The only thing I can think of is you didn’t use premium tanks. That must be why since I almost always use premium tanks only to get credits. Sometimes I run the IS-3 and it usually makes very little credits. I didn’t realize that made that much difference. 



kapri25 #3 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 03:17

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View PostKramah313, on Aug 20 2019 - 21:11, said:

It looks like you got a personal reserves bonus, so I think it did apply the credit booster. I’m trying to figure out how with a booster on and a premium account you only earned 89,000 credits when you did almost 8,000 damage and won. I’ve never done that much damage (I think my most in frontlines is close to 6,000) and if I had a premium and a booster I’d be looking at 200,000 credits most of the time. That’s more what I’d expect on a loss with a standard account (which I have now).

 

The only thing I can think of is you didn’t use premium tanks. That must be why since I almost always use premium tanks only to get credits. Sometimes I run the IS-3 and it usually makes very little credits. I didn’t realize that made that much difference. 

 

I can understand not using premium vehicles (even though the T-44 FL rental is said to be one) but have a net loss? 



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View Postkapri25, on Aug 21 2019 - 03:17, said:

 

I can understand not using premium vehicles (even though the T-44 FL rental is said to be one) but have a net loss? 


Agree...it just seems so low. 54 shots, 60,000 ammo cost. Most of those are the cheaper low alpha rounds so some premium ammo was used I assume. But not a ton or what I would call spamming. And with premium and a booster you should still make credits. Does premium/not premium really make that much difference? If so, I’d say that seems like the problem that needs fixing. Someone should not get general and do a ton of damage and lose a lot of credits unless they just load gold the whole time I would think. 



Astralite #5 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 03:42

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The real travesty is that crew.

Insanefriend #6 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 03:45

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That looks like premium ammo, lots of it.  54 total shots fired, so that is more then 1k per shell.  If you want to make credits stop spamming premium ammo.

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View PostKramah313, on Aug 20 2019 - 21:21, said:


Agree...it just seems so low. 54 shots, 60,000 ammo cost. Most of those are the cheaper low alpha rounds so some premium ammo was used I assume. But not a ton or what I would call spamming. And with premium and a booster you should still make credits. Does premium/not premium really make that much difference? If so, I’d say that seems like the problem that needs fixing. Someone should not get general and do a ton of damage and lose a lot of credits unless they just load gold the whole time I would think. 

 

Despite what people have called me I don't carry a lot of gold...usually around ten rounds or less. I shot gold but not enough to think I was spamming. Probably at more of the harder armor tanks usually or even the EBRs so I can have the shells keep their velocity. 



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View PostAstralite, on Aug 20 2019 - 21:42, said:

The real travesty is that crew.

 

And yet with that crew I was able to make General...if you're going to try to low key insult someone at least use your insult if the situation warranted it.

 

View PostInsanefriend, on Aug 20 2019 - 21:45, said:

That looks like premium ammo, lots of it.  54 total shots fired, so that is more then 1k per shell.  If you want to make credits stop spamming premium ammo.

 

It can look like whatever you want it to be. Frontlines allows for people to be able to shoot a lot of rounds. Even if I spammed gold rounds...only making a little over 89k credits while in a premium account, credit booster running, and make General should have garnered me a bigger credit reward. You obviously missed my point.



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View Postkapri25, on Aug 21 2019 - 03:58, said:

 

And yet with that crew I was able to make General...if you're going to try to low key insult someone at least use your insult if the situation warranted it.

 

 

If I wanted to insult you I would have, it was a joke. Settle down francis and enjoy your credit loss. 



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View Postkapri25, on Aug 21 2019 - 03:50, said:

 

Despite what people have called me I don't carry a lot of gold...usually around ten rounds or less. I shot gold but not enough to think I was spamming. Probably at more of the harder armor tanks usually or even the EBRs so I can have the shells keep their velocity. 


I use premium some in randoms but try to never in frontline because I use it for credit grinding. Helps me have to come up with new tactics, so I like trying to go without there. Plus I play tanks I’m awful with in randoms, like the LT-432. I’m horrible in it in randoms but it’s probably my favorite tank in FL. But I also have never gotten general and don’t really care about the reward tanks. We all have different goals for the mode. 

 

You could try to submit a ticket but I’m guessing there’s nothing wrong with the calculations and it wouldn’t help you. If you’re using FL to grind of those tech tree tanks my honest advice would be to play your skorpion G or SU-130 PM also. I bet you wouldn’t lose credits overall with those in the mix. Hope the rest of your battles are more profitable!



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Forget the net or even the balance folks. 

 

Btw many folks run FL to grind crew or tier 8s for that matter.  Food for thought folks.

 

89k gross does seem somewhat light.

 

OP maybe I'm not following you on this, or maybe you mistyped something.

 

View Postkapri25, on Aug 20 2019 - 21:55, said:

There was 5 minutes left on my clock when I started the battle and with your system that booster is supposed to carry into the next game.

 

If you start a battle with time left on a booster and that time runs out during the battle you get the booster bonus for that battle.  But if that booster's time runs out it doesn't carry over for the next match.

 



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View PostAstralite, on Aug 20 2019 - 22:02, said:

 

If I wanted to insult you I would have, it was a joke. Settle down francis and enjoy your credit loss. 

 

 I wonder what part of my post was lighthearted and fun? Then you throw a side show Bob comment about my crew thinking you were funny. The only reason I play nowadays is because of the friends and clan mates and being committed to finishing FL since I have invested so much of my time in it. There are moments of fun to be had but they are not much to even stay. But when I make a post to get honest answers (even if angry about it) your joke is nothing more than an insult. So with all due respect...go **** yourself.

 

View Postheavymetal1967, on Aug 20 2019 - 22:15, said:

 

If you start a battle with time left on a booster and that time runs out during the battle you get the booster bonus for that battle.  But if that booster's time runs out it doesn't carry over for the next match.

 

 

I did start this battle with 5 minutes left on the clock. It was not the next battle.



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Something does seem seriously off here. I do not think I have ever made as low as 60,000 credits and I suck. I know for a fact I have had lieutenant on a lose make more than that. Even without running premium tanks it seems that should have been a 150,000 credit game or more. So 225,000 credits with the booster you were running. 

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View Postkapri25, on Aug 20 2019 - 22:21, said:

 

 I wonder what part of my post was lighthearted and fun? Then you throw a side show Bob comment about my crew thinking you were funny. The only reason I play nowadays is because of the friends and clan mates and being committed to finishing FL since I have invested so much of my time in it. There are moments of fun to be had but they are not much to even stay. But when I make a post to get honest answers (even if angry about it) your joke is nothing more than an insult. So with all due respect...go **** yourself.

 

 

I did start this battle with 5 minutes left on the clock. It was not the next battle.

Lighten up Francis.! :child:



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View PostRG_Notch, on Aug 20 2019 - 22:53, said:

Lighten up Francis.! :child:

 

No



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View Postkapri25, on Aug 20 2019 - 22:58, said:

 

No

You show us, you throw a tantrum. Hold your breath and stomp your feet a lot, maybe just flop on the ground like a good lil tyke and WG will have to give in your demands. :medal:

BTW folks this is why you don't give in to children when they have tantrums, they grow up like this. 



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RG_Notch Please stop it

 



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View PostRG_Notch, on Aug 20 2019 - 23:01, said:

You show us, you throw a tantrum. Hold your breath and stomp your feet a lot, maybe just flop on the ground like a good lil tyke and WG will have to give in your demands. :medal:

BTW folks this is why you don't give in to children when they have tantrums, they grow up like this. 

 

Apparently you suffer from a mental illness if you cannot see a very obvious problem. I provided proof to my issue. Whether or not I get compensated (which I doubt I will get nor expect) is beside the point. I put the work in. In the end I got screwed by earning a lackluster amount of credits. Be a *** to someone who throws conspiracy theories around. I provided facts. 



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The point he is making is that the gross payout before expenses is undervalued. The game he had should have paid out at a minimum at least 250,000 if not more. I've had a few games like that, running bonuses and premium time and getting an undervalued credit payout.

 

Not sure what is causing it. Something was definitely wrong with the formula that was used for your payout. Fire off a ticket to them and see what their answer to it is, I'd be curious to know as well.



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I'm going to guess this has something to do with the way Fl is supposed to prevent credit losses. Somehow some other than normal formula is used when something triggers it.




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