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Lexers615 #1 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 03:07

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A few years ago, I'd say in 2011, a typical peak hour (c. 8pm) in the Summer meant 60+k players on the NA East server and 40+k players on the NA West server. Record occupancy was about 115k players on NA East alone on a Xmas peak hours if I'm not mistaken. Tonight, peak hour was 20k on the merged server. Enough said, game is dying or arguably already dead.

 

In the slow and painful dying process, WG tried everything! They rebalanced just about anything they could, added more and more urban and tunel like maps (i.e.: the one where aimbotting makes a difference the most), nerfed arties in just every possible way (they're latest: slightly reducing the already low arty shell velocity multiple time on multiple updates and changing the dispersion patterns), advertised that bogus "fair play policy" that only translated into newcommers falsely believing this game to be cheats free, and so on and on and on. Still, the hemorrhage went on for years. I paused playing several times and every time I received "Welcome back" offers six months latter (read: bribes to lure former players back). I just got one, cashed it in, played a few rounds, and again, I'm not staying.

 

The reason is very very simple. Oh, yeah, I know, I can already hear the mod apologist troll patrol. People stop playing because the game isn't fun anymore. And what's killing the fun is the unaddressed rampant cheating. Cheaters entertain the myth that arties are killing the game. Sure... Effective DMG has been reduced by about 60% and accuracy is non-existent nowadays. To score a hit arties need to either target HUGE tanks or sizable packs. Arties are now totally ineffective against the typical stationary campers. Oh yeah, we'll stun him, track him, cause marginal DMG but we won't hurt him significantly to the point of flushing him out of camping like we used to. So, yeah, arties are killing the game. Sure! Weekenders and casual players had had enough to be ammoracked non-stop by aimbotters. Like having the thickest armour there is, but having non-stop an aimboter place 6 shots in the paper thin imaginary weakspot devs added so that aimbot scripts have something to lock on.

 

However, WG knows perfectly well that the typicall cheater is also a high-end spender. So they never ever ever went on with the promised ban hammer. Instead, they twist their policies every now and then. The so called fairplay policy was amended several times so that the "banned on the second offense"  became a "three strikes policy (with lenience)", and it only applied to the reading challenged cheaters who were using the only cheats WG was fighting against: those by Warpack Studios. And WG has always been in a open war with WP solely because WP is making a profit out of this and they are not paying royalties. So, the dishonest nature of WG staff and their condoning of the use of cheats is the key factor if WoT agony.

 

So, yeah troll patrol, go on and keep arguing that stats show talents and that mods are either non-existent or are only quality of life stuff!



Silversound #2 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 03:15

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Kewl story brother. Tell it again.

CrimsonTiberius #3 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 03:17

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They killed Ranked And Team battles, They now only do tier 8,9 and 10 tournaments.

 

Clan Wars is a joke now. Where only the top clans benefit from it now. 



rokinamerica #4 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 03:17

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I started 2013, there was 1 server. It changed to 2 servers, (East and West) later. There were never anywhere near 60k on one or with 2 servers. Rarely half that except on special events or holidays. Of course, feel free to show proof of your imaginary numbers. 

 

Once they split servers I only played on west. It rarely was over 10-15k.

 

115k on east, stop  and just say no to drugs.



alphadogg64 #5 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 03:22

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Holy [edited], over exaggerate much bro

ArmorStorm #6 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 03:25

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Unaddressed rampant being outplayed by most of the playerbase is more like it OP.

RIA1911 #7 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 03:29

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I've been here since 2011 and Ive. never seen over 40k-50k on both servers when we had them, plus i saw data a while back showing a peak of about 42k on both server right after the split to east or west.

 

The population is down and has been for a while , but it's still doing better then some of the other servers. The player base has also changed a lot , i have always felt the players that came to play in the early years cared more about the game from a historical stand point.  Face it players burnout about problems with the game and  i how others play.



Lexers615 #8 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 03:32

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As I wrote, the troll patrol and mod appologist are trying to make it look like nothing's wrong. Game is going well. That's why they fired half their staff last year.

MajorRenegade #9 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 03:38

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I just started a EU account and already have 1 tier 8, 2 tier 7 tanks. And for the heck of it, I went brought me the Skoda T 27, LT-432 and the Skropion G. So I have something to grind credits in If needed. I'm jumping ship before it too late, at least they still got ranked on eu :izmena:

Lexers615 #10 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 03:39

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View PostMajorRenegade, on Aug 20 2019 - 21:38, said:

I just started a EU account and already have 1 tier 8, 2 tier 7 tanks. And for the heck of it, I went brought me the Skoda T 27, LT-432 and the Skropion G. So I have something to grind credits in If needed. I'm jumping ship before it too late, at least they still got ranked on eu :izmena:

 

Can you get decent Ping playing on EU server? I'm genuinely curious.



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View Postrokinamerica, on Aug 20 2019 - 21:17, said:

I started 2013, there was 1 server. It changed to 2 servers, (East and West) later. There were never anywhere near 60k on one or with 2 servers. Rarely half that except on special events or holidays. Of course, feel free to show proof of your imaginary numbers. 

 

Once they split servers I only played on west. It rarely was over 10-15k.

 

115k on east, stop  and just say no to drugs.


Here troll... Scroll to the second graph. You'll see that the active playerbase shrank by 50% only between late 2014 and today.

http://wot-news.com/stat/server/us/norm/en

 

And as I was saying, 115k was exceptional occupancy during the holidays and not a normal peak hours.

 

 



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View PostLexers615, on Aug 21 2019 - 02:56, said:


Here troll... Scroll to the second graph. You'll see that the active playerbase shrank by 50% only between late 2014 and today.

http://wot-news.com/stat/server/us/norm/en

 

And as I was saying, 115k was exceptional occupancy during the holidays and not a normal peak hours.

 

 

 

That second graph shows players for a whole week, whereas you're claiming that there were 115k online AT ONCE. It never happened buddy. I'm pretty sure the highest it's ever been was 40-50k in 2014-2015 (because the game was at its most popular in 2014-2015, not 2011 as you're claiming). Every game loses players at it grows older. But this game isn't losing players nearly as severely as you're claiming. 



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View PostLexers615, on Aug 21 2019 - 03:56, said:

Here troll... Scroll to the second graph. You'll see that the active playerbase shrank by 50% only between late 2014 and today.

http://wot-news.com/stat/server/us/norm/en

 

And as I was saying, 115k was exceptional occupancy during the holidays and not a normal peak hours.

"Second graph" and "115k" huh..i don't know what you've been looking at but the second one is "Number of players that played per weeks" and at the highest in that one is 289,930 / 7 = ~41,418 players, obviously not perfect with it recording per week but it'll have to do.. but regardless, aint seeing the 115k in there either.. nor in any of the other graphs



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View PostLexers615, on Aug 20 2019 - 23:09, said:

 

Can you get decent Ping playing on EU server? I'm genuinely curious.

I got an EU account a little while ago as well, just for the fun  of it. Haven't played it a huge amount but the fps and ping was worse but not overly bad from my end. Still had no problem playing.



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View PostLexers615, on Aug 20 2019 - 23:56, said:

And as I was saying, 115k was exceptional occupancy during the holidays and not a normal peak hours.

 

Let me reiterate what others have told you.

 

There have NEVER, NEVER, NEVER been more than 50k players online in this game on any combination of NA servers !

 

You can make up all the stories you want, but then there's the TRUTH.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



JakeTheMystic #16 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 04:21

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The competitive aspect that once drove the game is already arguably dead.

 

With the removal of ranked battles from the NA, tier 6/8 clan wars and the intention to remove third party statistics like WN8 in the near future, I can't help but laugh when they say they are listening to the community. 

 

It used to mean something to be in a top 100 clan, at least the clan had to be somewhat active. Now a clan can just recruit a bunch of bought purple accounts and fail their way into the top 30 because WG measurement of clan rating is flawed. During the season if a clan at least participates for 5 games, they are automatically thrown into the top 100. 

 

The top 3% of clans control basically the entire map or at least monopolize it for maximum profit and there just arent enough good competitive players to knock those top clans down. 

 

Events like Frontline will keep the mindless zombies at ease for at least a little while, but they couldnt even bother to release the new map with this last episode even though its been in test for what feels like an eternity. 

 

Playing without premium account makes it incredibly difficult to progress unless you use a metric ton of reserves. I spent the last of my gold to get a year of premium and I dont expect myself to get any more loot boxes. Considering I've only put 300-400 dollars into this game and everything else I've gotten for free, i'm extremely grateful for the people who contributed but I think I've finally had my fill of the game. 

 

If ranked battles existed or at least tier 8 CWs, I could see myself sticking around a while longer but at this point i'm pretty much tired of how repetitive the game has become. 

 

>Do a CWs season

>Get gold

>Clan goes inactive

>Do campaign

>Get reward tank

>Clan goes inactive

>Repeat 



Lexers615 #17 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 04:30

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View Postalphadogg64, on Aug 20 2019 - 22:04, said:

 

That second graph shows players for a whole week, whereas you're claiming that there were 115k online AT ONCE. It never happened buddy. I'm pretty sure the highest it's ever been was 40-50k in 2014-2015 (because the game was at its most popular in 2014-2015, not 2011 as you're claiming). Every game loses players at it grows older. But this game isn't losing players nearly as severely as you're claiming. 

 

Let's assume you're right. Just for the fun of it. I've just wasted a hour getting source for you and for your troll bandwagon.

Server 303 is NA Central (You have to manually click on ALL to show the all time stats):

https://stats.wotapi.ru/stats/wot/na/303

Old NA East (You have to manually click on ALL to show the all time stats):

https://stats.wotapi.ru/stats/wot/na/NA%20EAST

Old NA West (You have to manually click on ALL to show the all time stats):

https://stats.wotapi.ru/stats/wot/na/NA%20WEST

 

And those last two stats cover from mid 2015 to when the server were brought down. As you can see, "something" happened in May 2015 that axed 12+k players in days. I just wasted a hour and yeah I didn't find a source for the all time record for NA:East alone, so feel free to believe me or no about the 115k or so. However you can't deny that the peak hours went from 60k+ in mid 2015 to less than 20k today, no matter what they were prior to this.

 

BY THE WAY, according to Wikipedia, WoT record attendance was reached on May 24th 2011. NOT in 2014.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Tanks#Userbase

I saw graphs from 2008 up to today, the drop was noticeable from well earlier than 2015.

 

BALL IS IN YOUR FIELD, TROLL PATROL! Can't wait to read what fallacies you'll come up with to say that current game is going so well! :popcorn:



Lexers615 #18 Posted Aug 21 2019 - 04:31

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View PostNL_Celt, on Aug 20 2019 - 22:10, said:

I got an EU account a little while ago as well, just for the fun  of it. Haven't played it a huge amount but the fps and ping was worse but not overly bad from my end. Still had no problem playing.

 

Thanks. I'll definitely keep that in mind if I ever grow nostalgic once NA is brought down all together.



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View PostRIA1911, on Aug 20 2019 - 21:29, said:

but it's still doing better then some of the other servers.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. I hope you mean player retention percentage and not raw number of players!



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View Postalphadogg64, on Aug 20 2019 - 22:04, said:

 

because the game was at its most popular in 2014-2015, not 2011 as you're claiming

 

Feel free to go on wikipedia and edit the article accordingly.

 

Again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Tanks#Userbase

 

I love debating with trolls! They all claim to know facts but are so easily debunked. :popcorn:






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