Jump to content


It's a shame that German tanks are so down played in this game

german tanks

  • Please log in to reply
31 replies to this topic

Wolf_Jaeger_ #1 Posted Aug 25 2019 - 22:50

    Corporal

  • -Players-
  • 3207 battles
  • 21
  • [VPR1] VPR1
  • Member since:
    08-04-2015

German tanks and crew were some of the top tier in real life WW2. After the war all countries sought after them no Soviet tanks for improvements to their own tanks. The after war stats show that they were formidable enemies that destroyed more than they loss. 

https://youtu.be/Qq8qosO4L3c

https://youtu.be/3nIPCULX23Q

https://youtu.be/oH5rNCGK5bc

https://youtu.be/I3muj1Wn78w

https://youtu.be/utpXMVIM9Jg



_Tsavo_ #2 Posted Aug 25 2019 - 22:52

    Major

  • Beta Testers
  • 45896 battles
  • 19,526
  • [BRVE] BRVE
  • Member since:
    02-16-2011
Another "Zee Germans zee best tonks evar" thread.  Yawn. 

alphadogg64 #3 Posted Aug 25 2019 - 22:53

    First lieutenant

  • Players
  • 1163 battles
  • 613
  • Member since:
    08-17-2012

View Post_Tsavo_, on Aug 25 2019 - 21:52, said:

Another "Zee Germans zee best tonks evar" thread.  Yawn. 

 

I did Nazi that coming



redjkent #4 Posted Aug 25 2019 - 22:58

    Captain

  • -Players-
  • 94847 battles
  • 1,168
  • [Y2KBB] Y2KBB
  • Member since:
    07-24-2014
considering this is a arcade game and not a war simulator

_Smang_ #5 Posted Aug 25 2019 - 23:03

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 37850 battles
  • 287
  • [-RECK] -RECK
  • Member since:
    09-06-2013
Believe it or not, op, this comes up fairly often. There's a resident historian employed by wgna named the cheiftain. Search other similar topics and he'll guide you toward the light

Blocksupstudios #6 Posted Aug 25 2019 - 23:06

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 12827 battles
  • 483
  • Member since:
    06-22-2013
from a certain point of view, german tanks and crew are top tier. you just need some crew xp, skills, and some equipment first though ;)

Tolos #7 Posted Aug 25 2019 - 23:27

    Major

  • Beta Testers
  • 25997 battles
  • 18,445
  • [GDF] GDF
  • Member since:
    09-22-2010

View PostWolf_Jaeger_, on Aug 25 2019 - 21:50, said:

German tanks and crew were some of the top tier in real life WW2. After the war all countries sought after them no Soviet tanks for improvements to their own tanks. The after war stats show that they were formidable enemies that destroyed more than they loss. 

https://youtu.be/Qq8qosO4L3c

https://youtu.be/3nIPCULX23Q

https://youtu.be/oH5rNCGK5bc

https://youtu.be/I3muj1Wn78w

https://youtu.be/utpXMVIM9Jg

 

What you meant to say is

 

" I'm really bad in German tanks, so I'm going to blame the game for it. "



HeavyMetalSix #8 Posted Aug 25 2019 - 23:45

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 55040 battles
  • 331
  • Member since:
    10-17-2011

View Postredjkent, on Aug 25 2019 - 21:58, said:

considering this is a arcade game and not a war simulator

This game has 1 job assuage the tender bottoms of the ru fan bois with blas obj w/e the frak tanks.  I wish I'd realized that ages ago, like 47k battles in non-ru tanks ago....



_Koschei_ #9 Posted Aug 25 2019 - 23:48

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 33531 battles
  • 255
  • Member since:
    05-14-2011

View PostHeavyMetalSix, on Aug 25 2019 - 16:45, said:

This game has 1 job assuage the tender bottoms of the ru fan bois with blas obj w/e the frak tanks.  I wish I'd realized that ages ago, like 47k battles in non-ru tanks ago....


ya whatever he said !!!

 

 

wait...what did he say ?



Bonfor #10 Posted Aug 25 2019 - 23:52

    Staff sergeant

  • -Players-
  • 726 battles
  • 322
  • Member since:
    07-09-2013

View Postalphadogg64, on Aug 25 2019 - 13:53, said:

 

I did Nazi that coming

 

Let's keep it germane to the topic at hand...;)



GonnaBBQU #11 Posted Aug 26 2019 - 00:04

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 48670 battles
  • 415
  • Member since:
    09-13-2013
This is a russian game so of course the german tanks would suck....Thing is without the U.S help in ww2 they would all be speaking German right now...Russian tanks were garbage, but in this game they are overpowered..

_Red_Saaryn_ #12 Posted Aug 26 2019 - 00:12

    Captain

  • -Players-
  • 22226 battles
  • 1,320
  • [-IKR-] -IKR-
  • Member since:
    08-09-2015

View PostWolf_Jaeger_, on Aug 25 2019 - 22:50, said:

German tanks and crew were some of the top tier in real life WW2. After the war all countries sought after them no Soviet tanks for improvements to their own tanks. The after war stats show that they were formidable enemies that destroyed more than they loss. 

https://youtu.be/Qq8qosO4L3c

https://youtu.be/3nIPCULX23Q

https://youtu.be/oH5rNCGK5bc

https://youtu.be/I3muj1Wn78w

https://youtu.be/utpXMVIM9Jg

Nope. This game isn't about germany. Is about Russia. Also if Germany was best during ww2 was because they were smart and their engineers knew what they were doing, unlike the brainless brutes in charge of Britain and United States... 

 

To put it into perspective, if you want a German superiority game mode this would be a team with only t7 German heavy tanks vs t5-4 tanks. They will be 1 hit, outgunned and outperformed because it is historically accurate. This game is all about using the historical tanks, not to use them in their respective environment. That's why tiger 1/2 face things like maus, is7 etc. Because if you look it from a historical point of view, those tanks didn't exist until after the end of ww2 or didn't even exist at all. 

 

If you want an edge on your tank game then you must play your German tanks from tier 4-8 as snipers since the only armored heavies in the German tech tree are at t9-10 (except for the vk100 that is a somewhat armored t8 heavy).



ProfessionalFinn #13 Posted Aug 26 2019 - 00:26

    Major

  • -Players-
  • 25803 battles
  • 2,130
  • Member since:
    02-23-2016

View PostWolf_Jaeger_, on Aug 25 2019 - 13:50, said:

German tanks and crew were some of the top tier in real life WW2. After the war all countries sought after them no Soviet tanks for improvements to their own tanks. The after war stats show that they were formidable enemies that destroyed more than they loss. 

https://youtu.be/Qq8qosO4L3c

https://youtu.be/3nIPCULX23Q

https://youtu.be/oH5rNCGK5bc

https://youtu.be/I3muj1Wn78w

https://youtu.be/utpXMVIM9Jg

Might this be written by a reincarnation of von Manstein?



alphadogg64 #14 Posted Aug 26 2019 - 00:28

    First lieutenant

  • Players
  • 1163 battles
  • 613
  • Member since:
    08-17-2012

View Post_Red_Saaryn_, on Aug 25 2019 - 23:12, said:

If you want an edge on your tank game then you must play your German tanks from tier 4-8 as snipers since the only armored heavies in the German tech tree are at t9-10 (except for the vk100 that is a somewhat armored t8 heavy).

 

You'd have to be a moron to snipe in a Tiger 1.



alphadogg64 #15 Posted Aug 26 2019 - 00:29

    First lieutenant

  • Players
  • 1163 battles
  • 613
  • Member since:
    08-17-2012

View PostGonnaBBQU, on Aug 25 2019 - 23:04, said:

This is a russian game so of course the german tanks would suck....Thing is without the U.S help in ww2 they would all be speaking German right now...Russian tanks were garbage, but in this game they are overpowered..

 

Absolutely ridiculous argument. I want you to list some Soviet tanks that were used in WW2 that are OP in this game. 



I_QQ_4_U #16 Posted Aug 26 2019 - 00:49

    Major

  • -Players-
  • 22585 battles
  • 6,807
  • Member since:
    10-17-2016

View PostGonnaBBQU, on Aug 26 2019 - 00:04, said:

Thing is without the U.S help in ww2 they would all be speaking German right now...Russian tanks were garbage, but in this game they are overpowered..

 

 

It would have taken longer but the Russians would have likely won in the end and got most of Europe in the process. Russian industrial capacity greatly outstripped the Germans, they had the resources(Germany didn't) and Stalin was willing to sacrifice as many people as he could to delay the Germans while it got on line. Russian tanks were so garbage the Germans had no counter for KV's when they first invaded Russia, they surprised the hell out of the Germans. T-34's performed their role very well, being crude and simple they were perfect for crews with very little training. The Russians had the numbers, they relied on brute force and overwhelming the enemy which Russian tanks were designed for.



_Major_Tomato #17 Posted Aug 26 2019 - 04:27

    Sergeant

  • -Players-
  • 14388 battles
  • 223
  • [DHO] DHO
  • Member since:
    03-28-2015
German line is still stronger than the American line

Ken_McGuire #18 Posted Aug 26 2019 - 04:31

    Captain

  • Players
  • 31263 battles
  • 1,738
  • [CLASS] CLASS
  • Member since:
    12-21-2012

View PostWolf_Jaeger_, on Aug 25 2019 - 16:50, said:

German tanks and crew were some of the top tier in real life WW2.

 

Germany made effective tanks in WW2. Early in the war the relatively modest Pz 2 dominated forces were quite impressive, and the 3 and 4 that followed were quite good for their time.

 

View PostWolf_Jaeger_, on Aug 25 2019 - 16:50, said:

After the war all countries sought after them no Soviet tanks for improvements to their own tanks.

 

Well, Poland, Czechoslovakia and China made lots of tanks based on Soviet designs after the war.

 

View PostWolf_Jaeger_, on Aug 25 2019 - 16:50, said:

The after war stats show that they were formidable enemies that destroyed more than they loss.

 

While in World of Tanks, counting kill to loss ratio is pretty easy, in real life it is much more challenging. In general, everybody's after action reports magnify the forces of the enemy. In addition, how do you count tanks that have to be abandoned because of mechanical breakdown? What about tanks where the crew evacuate, but are able to be repaired and used again later?

 

Because of factors like this, the kill ratios of WW2 tanks is quite disputed. To say that they destroyed more than they lost needs to have a more definite source than "after war stats". Look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff0vHoEikq0 for an example of an nuanced discussion on this. You are certainly free to dispute some of their conclusions, but this is how you can build a case.



RC_1140 #19 Posted Aug 26 2019 - 04:32

    Major

  • Players
  • 64000 battles
  • 2,974
  • [CLAWS] CLAWS
  • Member since:
    06-13-2013
German tanks in this game tend to take skill to play well. 

SteelRonin #20 Posted Aug 26 2019 - 04:43

    Major

  • Beta Testers
  • 23489 battles
  • 5,037
  • [SAKAI] SAKAI
  • Member since:
    09-13-2010

Considering Wolfenstein 3D game's difficulties:

 

- Can I play, Daddy?  <------ Soviet tanks

- Don't hurt me.

- Bring 'em on!

- I am Death incarnate! <----- German tanks







Also tagged with german tanks

1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users