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ProfessionalFinn #1 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 13:20

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Does the world miss Prussia?  Prussia decisively shaped world history but is now vanquished and non-existent.

FrozenKemp #2 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 13:22

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Uh, no, Prussia won the unification struggle, absorbed all the other Germanic states, and became Germany. 

ProfessionalFinn #3 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 13:26

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View PostFrozenKemp, on Sep 06 2019 - 04:22, said:

Uh, no, Prussia won the unification struggle, absorbed all the other Germanic states, and became Germany. 

True, but both the Kingdom and the State no longer exist as an independent territory.



Cowcat137 #4 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 13:46

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Live by the sword and die by it.

tod914 #5 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 14:45

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We can thank Baron Von Steuben for developing the American Army's Drill and Ceremony program.  At that time the Continental Army.  Think we owe a little bit of our military heritage to Prussia.

 

Some required reading.  Von Clausewitz on War. 


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Sturm_Teufel #6 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 16:01

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Change is the one universal constant. Nations rise, influence, then, die/fade or evolve/change/adapt.

ProfessionalFinn #7 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 16:36

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For decades Prussia stood as a bulkwork against Russian European expansion. Will the galant Poland now do the same with a newly aggressive Russia?  Like Poland, the Baltic States have paid the price of existing between two giants.

Klaatu_Nicto #8 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 17:11

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Newly aggressive Russia? :facepalm:

 

After the Cold War ended......

 

Who broke their promise not to move NATO eastward?

 

Who was behind the revolutions in Georgia and Ukraine?

 

Who has interfered in Russian elections and Russian internal affairs?

 

Who violated the Anti Ballistic Missile Treaty?

 

Who sails their warships in Russian waters?

 

It's the West who has been aggressive.



Numerius_Titurius_Sophus #9 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 18:08

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View PostProfessionalFinn, on Sep 06 2019 - 13:26, said:

True, but both the Kingdom and the State no longer exist as an independent territory.

 

I look at it that, while Prussia hasn't been officially around for awhile, Prussia actually died in 1945.  <=1945 Prussian customs and culture was a huge influence on German culture.

 

I still remember as a young kid reading about Russians and then these P-Russians.  I asked my dad what a P-Russian was and he had no idea what I was talking about (as usual).


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ProfessionalFinn #10 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 18:10

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View PostNumerius_Titurius_Sophus, on Sep 06 2019 - 09:08, said:

 

I look at it that, while Prussia hasn't been officially around for awhile, Prussia actually died in 1945.  <=1945 Prussian customs and culture was a huge influence on German culture.

Good point.  Prussian influence on Germany is significant and impactful to this day.  



Numerius_Titurius_Sophus #11 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 18:11

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View PostProfessionalFinn, on Sep 06 2019 - 18:10, said:

Good point.  Prussian influence on Germany is significant and impactful to this day.  

 

True, but it isn't dominant anymore.  



Klaatu_Nicto #12 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 19:05

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Something I learned about a couple of decades ago.

 

 

More than 150 years ago Massachusetts became the first state to provide all of its citizens access to a free public education. Over the next 66 years every other state made the same guarantee..... Inspired in part by the approach Horace Mann saw in Prussia in 1843, it seemed to adequately prepare American youth for the 20th century industrialized economy.
https://www.theatlan...-system/256881/

 



TheManFromKekistan #13 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 20:26

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View PostProfessionalFinn, on Sep 06 2019 - 10:36, said:

For decades Prussia stood as a bulkwork against Russian European expansion. Will the galant Poland now do the same with a newly aggressive Russia? Like Poland, the Baltic States have paid the price of existing between two giants.

 

There may come a time and not far from now when europeans may welcome russian troops into their cities to put down the coming uprising since the eu military is weak and soft and just for show nowadays.

 

Poland so far has smartly refused to be part of this population replacement program but other eu countries now have millions and millions of the invaders already camped in the city just waiting for the word to rise up and burn it all down.



ProfessionalFinn #14 Posted Sep 07 2019 - 00:01

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View PostTheManFromKekistan, on Sep 06 2019 - 11:26, said:

 

There may come a time and not far from now when europeans may welcome russian troops into their cities to put down the coming uprising since the eu military is weak and soft and just for show nowadays.

 

Poland so far has smartly refused to be part of this population replacement program but other eu countries now have millions and millions of the invaders already camped in the city just waiting for the word to rise up and burn it all down.

I would not be surprised if Finland had its own Brexit.  The reason?  More and more citizens are fed-up with the open border requirement for EU members.

Spent much of the summer living in Finland and this anger over the EU open border fiat has legs there.  

Something else that is unpopular is the EU trade-embargo with Russia.  Russia is a natural and large trading partner.  The embargo hurts Finland badly.

Don't miss this.....nationalism is on the rise everywhere.  Including Suomi. 

 

 


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