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__WarChild__ #21 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 19:59

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Because I have Twitch Prime, I try to take advantage of the freebies which means I have to play the King Tiger C at least 3 battles a day.  When I load into Westfield and see 3 arty but only 2 Heavy Tanks - I don't want to go to "Heavy Ridge" but my team needs me to face the enemy heavies.  Once spotted up there, the arty shower that ensues is just not fun.  Alternating arty barrages that kept tracking me let me know that my fate was sealed and it was only a matter of seconds before one of those hidden _____ds was going to get me even though he was technically miles away.  :sceptic:

Cowcat137 #22 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 20:15

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Do you think XVM sniping was at work ? You'd make a juicy target.

ArmorStorm #23 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 20:39

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Have faith!  I was never an arty main, but the combination of the arty rebalance and the introduction of wheeled lights finally convinced me that SPGs were no longer fun nor were they relevant for me.  

 

I sold 5 Tier X SPGs and the Lefh (that one from guilt really) and haven’t looked back. 

 

I used to play arty when I wasn’t really in the zone, now I go do something else instead...and my stats are skyrocketing (OK, bottle rocketing...not the good ones, more like the ones you get free when you order enough stuff at those roadside stands).

 

 

 


Edited by ArmorStorm, Sep 07 2019 - 03:18.


Alpharius_____ #24 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 20:55

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View PostArmorStorm, on Sep 06 2019 - 20:39, said:

I used to play arty when I wasn’t really in the zone, now I go do something else instead...and my stats are skyrocketing! 

 

100% agree there... I used play my CGC alot (even 2 marked it), but its so difficult to perform consistently in it (which is a good thing). The problem is there is a class of players, usually in the 1000-1500 wn8 category, who decided the best way they can impact a game is focus whoever they perceive to be the best player(s) with arty.

 

This hurts their own stats (arty should be maxing stun/dmg not focusing) and also hurts the stats of competitive players. 


Edited by JunkaTheAdmirable, Sep 06 2019 - 20:56.


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View Post__WarChild__, on Sep 06 2019 - 18:43, said:

Howdy Tankers,

 

My opinion about artillery and those who play SPGs for the majority of their games in WoT is not shared by many and I understand that.  Regardless of what you believe about arty, I ask you to put yourself in the shoes of the Captured King Tiger crew here and let me know how you'd feel:

 

http://wotreplays.eu...hild-king_tiger

 

I don't like to complain about things that have no hope of being changed/corrected.  I would like to say though that I do not like having 3 artillery in a game and would certainly prefer a reduction down to 1 per side.

 

Just my thoughts.

 

__WarChild__

 

FYI - If you don't want to watch the replay, I'll save you the drama and just tell you that I was shelled to death in the first 2-3 minutes of a game on Westfield.  However, their arty focus on me allowed the rest of my team to dominate the other flank and win the game.  So there's that...

 

This^



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View Posttod914, on Sep 06 2019 - 11:56, said:

They can rework arty until they are blue in the face.  As long as there is three per match, the problem will never be solved.  One to two is ample. Think new players trying to learn the game want to be hammered by it?

The problem is with your play style against 3. 

When there is 3 arty in a game you CANT sit still like you could in a 1 arty game. 

with 3 they can cover middle and both flanks giving you no relief to camp.

 

It is my belief that most of the anti arty crowd like ti #1 camp, #2 move to their and everyone else's favorite position, #3 camp, and #4 move but still camp.

 

I have sat and watched teams grind to a halt because they are afraid to move when there is 3 arty.

now if they had anything close to a battle plan and executed it arty, even 3 can't keep up with a target rich environment.

 

Last thing. remember when everyone faced hug out of love for your enemy??

How many arty hits did you get?

Now I get nailed for the stun dmg but I can now blast away at that enemy your face hugging and not pay out a whole lot.

 

Remember y'all screamed to wg to nerf arty, they did. Then you cried and wailed and gnashing your teeth to nerf arty and your got the STUN.

Now you cried about TK'ing and WG did their best so i can rain shells down every 35 seconds on ya.

 

If the anti arty players learned the reload and aiming times of arty they would know when to move but instead ya freeze up and pee your britches...



DVK9 #27 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 21:25

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View PostArmorStorm, on Sep 06 2019 - 13:39, said:

I used to play arty when I wasn’t really in the zone, now I go do something else instead...and my stats are skyrocketing!  

 

 

Thats because arty doesnt translate well into WIN 8 and especially into anything but dmg stats.

 



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3 arties in a game is simply a camp-fest. I hide behind solid cover, shoot whatever comes by. The game is a success for me if I give no hp's to arty.

 

If it was 1 arty max a game, that would be playable.



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View PostJunkaTheAdmirable, on Sep 06 2019 - 11:59, said:

There's nothing more fun than playing a heavy on provkharoka with three arty.

IKR....I love that



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View PostSophist__, on Sep 06 2019 - 12:26, said:

3 arties in a game is simply a camp-fest. I hide behind solid cover, shoot whatever comes by. The game is a success for me if I give no hp's to arty.

 

If it was 1 arty max a game, that would be playable.

 

If you didn't already know, WoT Blitz has ZERO arty every game... :ohmy:



CheapWine #31 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 23:41

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View PostHeraldricKnight, on Sep 06 2019 - 18:58, said:

Clearly, you did not hide behind all the artillery safe cover in an open map. Learn 2 move, scrub. 


When I see arrogant condescending responses like this I can't help but feel for those who might be required to interact with such person on a daily basis.



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I would prefer to see it capped at 1 or 2 per battle.  Its like CV's in WOW being capped at 2 per game.

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View PostCheapWine, on Sep 06 2019 - 22:41, said:


When I see arrogant condescending responses like this I can't help but feel for those who might be required to interact with such person on a daily basis.

 

It was sarcasm, [edited].



LOL_i_CLICKED_u #34 Posted Sep 06 2019 - 23:56

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Sure 1-2 arty per game. Just make sure we get our power back. That would balance vs wheelies, finally. :)

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View PostJunkaTheAdmirable, on Sep 06 2019 - 09:59, said:

There's nothing more fun than playing a heavy on provkharoka with three arty.

We agree. 

Arty makes the game so much more fun. 

Competing with and against teams with 3 SPGs is so much more difficult and competitive.  (I seldom play arty. )

Arty punishes passive play. Moving targets are so hard to hit and damage with SPG fire.

 

(I know I know.  I am a tomato.)



Bill_Nye_the_RussianSpy #36 Posted Sep 07 2019 - 00:16

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Yes its extremely Annoying and I don't know if it's bad luck lately but they have been nailing me with high rolls constantly. 1 per side is plenty but I'll take 3 over the 5+ we use to get

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View PostYANKEE137, on Sep 06 2019 - 12:15, said:

Do you think XVM sniping was at work ? You'd make a juicy target.

 

 

Hell, I try to eliminate __WarChild__ whenever I see him on the enemy team!  Just on principle — XVM be damned!

 

:D

 

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View PostDVK9, on Sep 06 2019 - 15:22, said:

The problem is with your play style against 3. 

When there is 3 arty in a game you CANT sit still like you could in a 1 arty game. 

with 3 they can cover middle and both flanks giving you no relief to camp.

 

It is my belief that most of the anti arty crowd like ti #1 camp, #2 move to their and everyone else's favorite position, #3 camp, and #4 move but still camp.

 

I have sat and watched teams grind to a halt because they are afraid to move when there is 3 arty.

now if they had anything close to a battle plan and executed it arty, even 3 can't keep up with a target rich environment.

 

Last thing. remember when everyone faced hug out of love for your enemy??

How many arty hits did you get?

Now I get nailed for the stun dmg but I can now blast away at that enemy your face hugging and not pay out a whole lot.

 

Remember y'all screamed to wg to nerf arty, they did. Then you cried and wailed and gnashing your teeth to nerf arty and your got the STUN.

Now you cried about TK'ing and WG did their best so i can rain shells down every 35 seconds on ya.

 

If the anti arty players learned the reload and aiming times of arty they would know when to move but instead ya freeze up and pee your britches...

 

If you watched the OPs replay, which is unlikely since it's only been downloaded 6 times so far, you'll see that he went to where a top tier heavy needed to go and was then chained hit until dead.  He wasn't camping and had no recourse after the repair kit was used.  

 

View PostWhineMaker, on Sep 06 2019 - 16:09, said:

If you didn't already know, WoT Blitz has ZERO arty every game... :ohmy:

 

Too slow, that meme was already called out.  



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View PostDVK9, on Sep 06 2019 - 14:25, said:

Thats because arty doesnt translate well into WIN 8 and especially into anything but dmg stats.

 


Not even that since the rework.  I don’t chase WN8 btw, I play for wins (which arty is also bad for).



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View PostWhineMaker, on Sep 06 2019 - 15:09, said:

 

If you didn't already know, WoT Blitz has ZERO arty every game... :ohmy:


Man you need some new material.  







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