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Axisfighter #1 Posted Sep 18 2019 - 22:52

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Non-paying players are treated like garbage in this game. The game creates modes specifically for people to abuse 4 tanks that you can buy and basically just doesn't care about anyone else. I don't understand why they have given up on caring about trying to get new players or even making the game remotely enjoyable for anyone other than the paying or elites. I just wish they would give a damn again but I know im asking for the impossible at this point. The game is dying and they clearly just want to suck every last penny out before it does. I guess thanks for the fun I had when I started and they cared about the game but its become nothing but a joke now. Another tanker glad to be done with hoping they change something and show any level of care.

Vulcan_Spectre #2 Posted Sep 18 2019 - 22:56

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Please summerize what you just said

turbomagnus #3 Posted Sep 18 2019 - 23:00

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View PostVulcan_Spectre, on Sep 18 2019 - 22:56, said:

Please summerize what you just said


"Game hates F2P'ers. WG has bad attitude. I quit." is how I read it.



Vulcan_Spectre #4 Posted Sep 18 2019 - 23:02

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View Postturbomagnus, on Sep 18 2019 - 17:00, said:


"Game hates F2P'ers. WG has bad attitude. I quit." is how I read it.

Ah, well riddle me this op, no



Powerage13 #5 Posted Sep 18 2019 - 23:07

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sweet

 



__WarChild__ #6 Posted Sep 18 2019 - 23:20

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I pay a lot of money and I'm pretty sure they hate me more than you.  Just saying...

 



Ironmike11B #7 Posted Sep 18 2019 - 23:21

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I got news for you OP. WG hates people who spend money too.

eastcoastlobster #8 Posted Sep 18 2019 - 23:24

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View Post__WarChild__, on Sep 18 2019 - 23:20, said:

I pay a lot of money and I'm pretty sure they hate me more than you.  Just saying...

 



Ratnikk #9 Posted Sep 18 2019 - 23:30

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WOT is a paytowin game even more so when it was launched. Wargaming had the opportunity to make this game great like other mmos but their greed killed their growth. The whole model is based on paytowin if you dont have at the very least premium time youre gonna have a bad time in this game.

TDRHooRaH #10 Posted Sep 18 2019 - 23:31

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Sorry Bro. 

 

I spent at least 2k since I started playing.

 

Can confirm WG still hates me.



HeavyMetalSix #11 Posted Sep 18 2019 - 23:31

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The TL/DR: version of the below is what the super pros say #gitgud (I don't buy into that doody).

The reality is exactly the opposite of what i'm writing below:

There's no bias.

There's no rigging aka cheating.

There's no manipulation of RNG - you like me just randomly and consistently get:

streaks of bad teams

streaks of fully aimed shots missing

streaks of losing

Meanwhile other people seemingly get randomly consistently the exact opposite of the above.



_Red_Saaryn_ #12 Posted Sep 18 2019 - 23:52

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View PostAxisfighter, on Sep 18 2019 - 22:52, said:

Non-paying players are treated like garbage in this game. The game creates modes specifically for people to abuse 4 tanks that you can buy and basically just doesn't care about anyone else. I don't understand why they have given up on caring about trying to get new players or even making the game remotely enjoyable for anyone other than the paying or elites. I just wish they would give a damn again but I know im asking for the impossible at this point. The game is dying and they clearly just want to suck every last penny out before it does. I guess thanks for the fun I had when I started and they cared about the game but its become nothing but a joke now. Another tanker glad to be done with hoping they change something and show any level of care.

Wg fist me everyday and each time I play my t8 tanks or German tanks in general. I'm the kind of person that has the custom of buying boxes each year and I mean spending over 100 USD in loot boxes only. I don't know, I just feel like Christmas decorations, gambling and tanks are way too alluring for me. I know very well that I NEVER win anything but I still do it. Just because the little jiggle is catchy for me. Last time I bough over 20 and I got no tank, no gold (just the bare minimum to justify my box).

 

I know wg is unfair and that it has a grudge against Germany. I still love the game. I guess I'm in a stage of hardcore self hate.


Edited by _Red_Saaryn_, Sep 18 2019 - 23:58.


leeuniverse #13 Posted Sep 18 2019 - 23:59

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War-gaming Hates its players unless they spend money.

 

Nah...  I haven't gotten a SINGLE thing from Wargaming that everyone else didn't also get, and I've spent likely over $3,000 and look at all the games I've played.

 

The actual truth is they only love those who do their "competitions" whatever it's called.

What, you get extra gold, special tanks, etc.  (though don't know if the gold thing is still true).

 

Yet me, someone actually supporting the game, and Wargaming says **** you!

Wargaming has absolutely ZERO faith to their customers.  Any other business rewards its dedicated customers.



Markd73 #14 Posted Sep 19 2019 - 00:20

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View PostHeavyMetalSix, on Sep 18 2019 - 22:31, said:

The TL/DR: version of the below is what the super pros say #gitgud (I don't buy into that doody).

The reality is exactly the opposite of what i'm writing below:

There's no bias.

There's no rigging aka cheating.

There's no manipulation of RNG - you like me just randomly and consistently get:

streaks of bad teams

streaks of fully aimed shots missing

streaks of losing

Meanwhile other people seemingly get randomly consistently the exact opposite of the above.

Based on what credible non-anecdotal evidence?

 

All I see are feelz in your post



alphadogg64 #15 Posted Sep 19 2019 - 00:33

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Easy missions to get free boosters, tournaments to get free gold, marathons to get free tier 8 premiums

 

Ok then



Moose_Sausage #16 Posted Sep 19 2019 - 00:56

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View Post__WarChild__, on Sep 18 2019 - 18:50, said:

I pay a lot of money and I'm pretty sure they hate me more than you.  Just saying...

 

Everyone hates you.:D



Ericmopar #17 Posted Sep 19 2019 - 01:00

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Yeah, I don't think they like their paying customers either, because even people like me that always have Wargaming Premium running full time, still have to buy boosters occasionally to make enough credits in game, they don't even have respect for people that maintain premium at all times.
And I still have lots of weird stuff happen, like I'm in my Canon DeAsualt 105 the other night and caught a Arty out in the open, and both rounds I fired at it hit for 0 damage.
So yeah, paying has nothing to do with the weird crap or getting more freebies etc.
All their games are quite miserable at tier VII and up whether a person pays or not.

As an example, I have a Commander in World of Warships that I've been grinding for an entire year, thousands of games on him, he was my first commander, and he's still not a 19 pointer after an entire year of playing him every day.
They want me to spend $100 on doubloons for those last 4 points, by converting elite XP off ships I've been playing for a year.
It's the same here in WoT.

Not happening... wargaming.

Edited by Ericmopar, Sep 19 2019 - 01:08.


Person012345 #18 Posted Sep 19 2019 - 01:22

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I pay and they hate me too though.

Pipinghot #19 Posted Sep 19 2019 - 01:47

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View PostRatnikk, on Sep 18 2019 - 17:30, said:

WOT is a paytowin game even more so when it was launched. Wargaming had the opportunity to make this game great like other mmos but their greed killed their growth. The whole model is based on paytowin if you dont have at the very least premium time youre gonna have a bad time in this game.

You have obviously never played a game that is truly pay to win.

 

This game has a couple of features that are a tiny bit P2W, but on the whole it's a classic example of F2P, F2W. Skill is much, much more important than money here.



Ericmopar #20 Posted Sep 19 2019 - 01:52

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View PostPipinghot, on Sep 18 2019 - 17:47, said:

You have obviously never played a game that is truly pay to win.

 

This game has a couple of features that are a tiny bit P2W, but on the whole it's a classic example of F2P, F2W. Skill is much, much more important than money here.


Oh bull.
I've had 100% crews that can't hit the broad side of a barn and their tank is slow as molasses, until you pay to convert elite XP off of things and get them up to 3 or four skills each, then the tank starts to work.
Light in particular are garbage until you get at least full camo and anything that helps spotting, plus 6th sense.

It's the same in World of Warships, until commanders have at least 8 points, some ships need at minimum 10 point commanders, they play terrible, with very slow turret rotation, no pen on the HE, burn to the ground etc.
Also, don't get me started on needing XP for those hulls that give a ship more hit points and much better rudder shift times etc. Firing range improvments etc. Paying for camo through the nose for more XP and a +4% dispersion increase on the enemies shells et.

 


Edited by Ericmopar, Sep 19 2019 - 01:57.






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