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[guynodens]

Hey there, 

 

Just bringing up the well-trod ground that the Tiger (P) needs some buffs. It's DPM is worse than the Tiger (I) for literally no reason, it's "improved" armor is useless because you can just shoot its cheeks/midplate/lower plate constantly, and it's hp is worse than the Tiger (I) for again, literally no reason. 

 

I would honestly really love to hear from a dev or someone as to why it's just a strictly worse tank. 

 

And before anyone says "Well historically": This game is chock full of tanks that only existed in blueprints. If we were being true to history, those tanks wouldnt' even exist, or they would have so many flaws and weaknesses from being literal blueprints that manifest as prototypes at best. The Tiger (P) historically had an unreliable engine. There's no reason for it to have worse DPM and lower HP other than the game devs just really don't like it. 

[rockbutcher]

You don't even have one.

[Garandster]

I really didn't mind playing it. You should give it a try.

[RIA1911]

Lots of  tanks need to be re-balanced , will it happen, i doubt it.

[tanopasman62]

I like my Tiger P, it could use some gun handling buffs and some improvements on the front turret, but that's about it.

 

Either way, it's not tier 8-10, so the devs don't give a flying crapabout it.

[guynodens]

To everyone above, no, I don't have one yet. That is absolutely a valid criticism of my post, and yes, I should probably play one before talking about it. 

 

that said, I have a thing for mathhammering stuff, and it just looks strictly worse than the Tiger I. I've been all over the models, looking at win rates, it just looks.. worse. for no good reason. and who knows, maybe I will like it anyway. 

 

Legitimate question; Wargaming in its wiki and descriptors seem to be trying to push it as like some kind of sniper heavy. I feel like that is unlikely to work strictly because heavies generally are needed for their armor and hp. However, it does really have good accuracy. Is it worth trying to make work like a sniper or fire-support tank? 

[Projectile_Misfired]

rockbutcher, on Sep 22 2019 - 00:11, said:

You don't even have one.

SHHHHH!!! Don't tell him that.

Let's see how long it takes him to realize it.

[Cowcat137]

I'm gonna self censor before one of the humorless weekend crew sees it.

Edited by YANKEE137, Sep 22 2019 - 02:12.

[death_stryker]

Well I *have* played it, and I fully agree with everything the OP said. It sucks, and that's a fact.

[NeckRomancer]

When i joined the game years ago, the Tiger P was stronger of the 2 Tiger's at tier 7, it's armor mattered.

 

What would help the line with the Tiger P , is to match the ROF to that of the Tiger line guns, could be done with just a few minutes work really.

[_Katyusha___]

don't play it?

 

want a porsche, vk30p is very good.

want a tiger? tiger 131 is the way to go

want a Maus??? oh well... is not that bad the grind.... maybe

[rockbutcher]

guynodens, on Sep 21 2019 - 19:50, said:

To everyone above, no, I don't have one yet. That is absolutely a valid criticism of my post, and yes, I should probably play one before talking about it. 

 

that said, I have a thing for mathhammering stuff, and it just looks strictly worse than the Tiger I. I've been all over the models, looking at win rates, it just looks.. worse. for no good reason. and who knows, maybe I will like it anyway. 

 

Legitimate question; Wargaming in its wiki and descriptors seem to be trying to push it as like some kind of sniper heavy. I feel like that is unlikely to work strictly because heavies generally are needed for their armor and hp. However, it does really have good accuracy. Is it worth trying to make work like a sniper or fire-support tank? 

'mathhammer' something that makes you real money and just enjoy the game.  It's a good tank.

[dave_292]

 Love my Tiger P. 

As for your sniper comment it is very good at hitting the small weak spots at mid range. I have killed a lot of T9 tanks in it because you can front scrape a corner and hit the weak point with confidence.

[TheHQ]

Its good against people who dont know how to aim, at tiers tier or lower. Up close its full of weakspots that good players will use to their advantage to tear you a new hole, but the armor is mildy more useful than that of the Tiger since you can actually sidescrape.

 

other than that its worse in every way to a Tiger I

 

TLDR  extra armor on the Tig P isnt worth it compared to the Tiger H. Too bad you have to grind out like 3 tier 8s with it