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TVV #81 Posted Sep 27 2019 - 23:02

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On the flip side, if average and below average players get the CW reward tanks, it would make it easier for the players who actually earned the tanks in CW to mark theirs. 

I_QQ_4_U #82 Posted Sep 27 2019 - 23:11

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View Post_Bus, on Sep 27 2019 - 21:08, said:

 

The RU forums.

 

So a few people of the 10% of those that play the game that use the forum.



alphadogg64 #83 Posted Sep 27 2019 - 23:13

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View Postminneerminneer, on Sep 27 2019 - 21:59, said:

Actually it prob will kill cw on na atleast the actual competitive clans.  Because what's the point gold payout is trash and when you can just fail grind bonds yea why bother with the stress of cw

 

I expect you to not participate in the next CW season then



Avalon304 #84 Posted Sep 27 2019 - 23:20

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View Postminneerminneer, on Sep 27 2019 - 14:59, said:

Actually it prob will kill cw on na atleast the actual competitive clans.  Because what's the point gold payout is trash and when you can just fail grind bonds yea why bother with the stress of cw

 

I mean... people in the competitive clans already play the seasons where the gold payout is trash and tanks arent on the line. Im pretty sure MAHOU is currently taking part in the season. Im pretty sure OTTER is. I know SNPAI is doing a bit of it. I imagine G and VILIN and all the other competitive and semi-competitive clans are taking part in the CW season. So... why are they all taking part in it now if theres no tank on the line, especially since playing in the normal seasons isnt a requirement to be able to do well in a campaign? According to you the only time anyone bothers playing CW is when its a campaign for a tank, but thats clearly not the case.

 

The people here who are playing clan wars, despite the bad rewards from the normal seasons are still going to play clan wars even if WG starts selling the reward tanks for bonds. Because for them (most of them anyway) it isnt about the rewards, its about the competitive aspect.

 

If bad payouts and bad rewards were enough to kill CW here it would already be dead. But it isnt. At worst it'll cause the less competitive clans to drop out of CW campaigns (because they never win their members tanks anyway), but its not going to kill CW for the competitive and semi-competitive clans.



_Red_Saaryn_ #85 Posted Sep 27 2019 - 23:39

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When are these tanks sold to the general public? I kind of want to know when I can spend my +18k bonds

Avalon304 #86 Posted Sep 27 2019 - 23:40

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View Post_Red_Saaryn_, on Sep 27 2019 - 15:39, said:

When are these tanks sold to the general public? I kind of want to know when I can spend my +18k bonds

 

Well, we dont know that this list will be the exact list of tanks made available, but the shop itself should be available whenever patch 1.6.1 goes live (so a couple weeks at most).



_Red_Saaryn_ #87 Posted Sep 27 2019 - 23:44

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View PostAvalon304, on Sep 27 2019 - 23:40, said:

 

Well, we dont know that this list will be the exact list of tanks made available, but the shop itself should be available whenever patch 1.6.1 goes live (so a couple weeks at most).

I'm excited because I didn't use bonds due to not feeling the special equipment worth the hassle but now, I have a reason to play t10 tanks. Also I reeeeeeally expected a tiger 131. I have been wanting one since I got my Japanese tiger 1 (because the forum admins feel like "j+p t+g+r" is a racist insult and warned me once) because that tiger feels like a real tiger. Just like the king tiger c feels like a real one. Because it doesn't need to face e100 or is7  and can face m4 tanks like irl.



FrozenKemp #88 Posted Sep 27 2019 - 23:55

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View Post_Red_Saaryn_, on Sep 27 2019 - 17:44, said:

Also I reeeeeeally expected a tiger 131. 

 

Most of the tanks for bonds shown are not sold for cash, and vice versa.  I don't expect the Tiger 131 to be sold for bonds, at least initially.  You would probably be able to get it for cash from the store if you keep an eye out for it. 



Avalon304 #89 Posted Sep 28 2019 - 00:06

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View PostFrozenKemp, on Sep 27 2019 - 15:55, said:

 

Most of the tanks for bonds shown are not sold for cash, and vice versa.  I don't expect the Tiger 131 to be sold for bonds, at least initially.  You would probably be able to get it for cash from the store if you keep an eye out for it. 

 

Half of them have been sold in the premium shop for actual cash. And Im sure the M10 will make its way to the premium shop eventually.



Das_Junka #90 Posted Sep 28 2019 - 00:36

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View PostBEASTY_BUCKEYE, on Sep 27 2019 - 22:42, said:

 

So what about the players that have spent years doing thousands of tier ten random battles. To save up the bonds needed for those tanks. That's not an investment of time to you. Get out of here dude, your not that special.  A couple of weeks of your time, to get a cw tank is nothing.  Compared to what some players that are not in clans, are doing to get bonds. 

 

Why should someone failing their way through pubs for 30,000 games, dragging their teams down along the way, be considered to have the same merit as a clan wars caller? Some people's time is literally worth more than others. A crack addict is not equal to a doctor or a brigade commander.

 

The whole point of cw rewards is to incentive improving one's performance enough to rise to the top percentile of players. If there's no incentive to do this, why ever strive to be more than mediocre? 

 

Elites have always existed in dynamic society, google the Pareto distribution.


Edited by JunkaTheAdmirable, Sep 28 2019 - 00:37.


Flarvin #91 Posted Sep 28 2019 - 00:41

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View PostJunkaTheAdmirable, on Sep 27 2019 - 18:36, said:

 

Why should someone failing their way through pubs for 30,000 games, dragging their teams down along the way, be considered to have the same merit as a clan wars caller? Some people's time is literally worth more than others. A crack addict is not equal to a doctor or a brigade commander.

 

The whole point of cw rewards is to incentive improving one's performance enough to rise to the top percentile of players. If there's no incentive to do this, why ever strive to be more than mediocre? 

 

Elites have always existed in dynamic society, google the Pareto distribution.

 

The second good laugh you have given me today, thanks. 

 

Keep up the good work. lol 



Avalon304 #92 Posted Sep 28 2019 - 00:42

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View PostFlarvin, on Sep 27 2019 - 16:41, said:

 

The second good laugh you have given me today, thanks. 

 

Keep up the good work. lol 

 

Thats pretty much all Junka is actually good at...



Flarvin #93 Posted Sep 28 2019 - 00:47

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View PostAvalon304, on Sep 27 2019 - 18:42, said:

Thats pretty much all Junka is actually good at...

 

I know sarcasm is hard to convey on forums. 

 

But the absurdity of his posts just give it away. lol 



Avalon304 #94 Posted Sep 28 2019 - 00:52

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View PostFlarvin, on Sep 27 2019 - 16:47, said:

 

I know sarcasm is hard to convey on forums. 

 

But the absurdity of his posts just give it away. lol 

 

The thing is... I dont think hes being sarcastic... he actually believes the stuff he posts.



Flarvin #95 Posted Sep 28 2019 - 00:56

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View PostAvalon304, on Sep 27 2019 - 18:52, said:

 

The thing is... I dont think hes being sarcastic... he actually believes the stuff he posts.

 

He might not intended to be sarcastic. 

 

But my post about him purposely being sarcastic, sure was. lol 



Das_Junka #96 Posted Sep 28 2019 - 02:17

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View PostAvalon304, on Sep 28 2019 - 00:42, said:

 

Thats pretty much all Junka is actually good at...

 

What are you good at, padding in tier 8s? Clearly not good at refuting points.



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After the crapstorm the tank campaigns are im ok with selling the worst reward tank with bonds, that way we can incentivate our clan members to play more their TX and there is no lose of prestige or other elitist crap, at this moment ppl wants the 907 and the chieftain because they are broken, not for prestige or something like that (maybe a narcisist will find pleasure in hoarding tanks who only a few have) but if they are balanced i think people will still would play a tank campaign by the looks of the tank (like the christmas skin of the batchat).



Gothraul #98 Posted Sep 28 2019 - 04:49

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The sense of entitlement is laughable especially for something as dated and powercrept as those two old mothballs, this is the very thing that some generations get a bad reputation for. 

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View PostJunkaTheAdmirable, on Sep 27 2019 - 19:36, said:

 

Why should someone failing their way through pubs for 30,000 games, dragging their teams down along the way, be considered to have the same merit as a clan wars caller? Some people's time is literally worth more than others. A crack addict is not equal to a doctor or a brigade commander.

 

The whole point of cw rewards is to incentive improving one's performance enough to rise to the top percentile of players. If there's no incentive to do this, why ever strive to be more than mediocre? 

 

Elites have always existed in dynamic society, google the Pareto distribution.


It always amuses me the entitlement and whining in these posts.

"Why should someone failing their way through pubs for 30,000 games, dragging their teams down along the way, be considered to have the same merit as a clan wars caller? Some people's time is literally worth more than others. A crack addict is not equal to a doctor or a brigade commander."

Some people think that calling tank games somehow means they are as important as a doctor. Yet what do they play? Chieftains Obj 268 4s and whatever the name of that Russian tier 10 reward tank is. Then they have it full of bonded equipment and of course they fire all gold. They think that they are so much better but do everything possible to avoid an even match. They play on easy mode with the most overpowered tanks.

"The whole point of cw rewards is to incentive improving one's performance enough to rise to the top percentile of players. If there's no incentive to do this, why ever strive to be more than mediocre? "

This is a flat out lie. If it was the goal to challenge yourself then it wouldn't matter to you if non CW players got the reward tanks. Why lie? You play for the most overpowered tanks like the Chieftain and the Russian heavy. Why because it gives you an advantage over players that don't have those tanks.

And the thing that is really telling about that is if your arguments about challenges was actually true then you wouldn't care in the slightest if the "dirty 45%ers" got your precious. If a 45%er in a M60 or 121B is too tough for you to deal with then I have no sympathy. It isn't like a 45% doesn't have to put on his/her big boy pants and deal with it. But "Oh Noes it might be a fairer fight".

I saved my bonds. I earned my bonds. If I get a tank with bonds then I worked for it. If you don't like that then tough. It isn't like wargaming isn't going to put out an even more powerful uber tank for clan wars. Next tank will probably be a 17 shot russian autoloader firing shots that have 455 pen and 1700 dmg a shot. Oh and to be balanced it will only have 500 points of spaced turret armor.



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View PostJunkaTheAdmirable, on Sep 27 2019 - 18:51, said:

 

I am offended because I spent hours every night in Wonka playing, designing strats and calling in order to get a chieftain, and again spent hours every night in Zoo to get a 907. And furthermore failed to get a tank a year ago despite spending hours every night in o-ver.

 

At least they arent giving out meta cw tanks (yet) but it is taking a big crap on competitive players who put tons of effort into having good stats, joining competitive clans and (sometimes) calling; only for a random 46% winrate joe pubbie to get the tank for free because he doesn't have the intelligence to use his bonds for improved equipment.

 

Well, the bonuses are also not very easy to get, please stop crying, some players with limited time for CW would like to have nice tanks too.






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