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Ed_the_Baker #1 Posted Oct 02 2019 - 16:51

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collings foundation plane, same one that flew over my house a few days ago...https://www.bostongl...TrendingBar     no info on casualties yet

 



AndrewSledge #2 Posted Oct 02 2019 - 17:36

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At some point, maybe they should stop flying these things.

FrozenKemp #3 Posted Oct 02 2019 - 17:39

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Oh no :( 

tod914 #4 Posted Oct 02 2019 - 17:49

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Just seen that group of planes about a month ago.  That's a real shame.  Article I read, said it crashed on landing.  Hope the 6 injured have a speedy recovery.

 

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Ta_Hun_Kwai #5 Posted Oct 02 2019 - 17:55

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I dought it was faulty parts I bet pilot error cause they keep these things in top shape

Klaatu_Nicto #6 Posted Oct 02 2019 - 18:26

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noboater #7 Posted Oct 02 2019 - 18:26

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So sad to see this. Prayers for all involved.

motoracedave #8 Posted Oct 02 2019 - 19:40

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The Windsor Lockes Air Museum is a wonderful facility. I have spent many a day there as I grew up in western Mass. It has gone through some upgrades in the last few years to make it an even better experience. 

 

https://www.neam.org/

 

They are now saying there was casualties. So sorry to hear this. 



Cowcat137 #9 Posted Oct 02 2019 - 20:01

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A tragedy.

Atragon #10 Posted Oct 02 2019 - 20:32

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They flew into New London, CT two weeks ago at the Groton airport. My boss wanted me to go for a ride in the B-17 for $400 as he would probably go also if I went along for a once in a lifetime experience. I have 2 new tires to buy, an exhaust system, and serpentine belt and some new computer parts so I could not really justify the expense to go.

 

This is really hitting us here in Connecticut hard. My thoughts and prayers to all who just wanted to have a once in a lifetime special experience to tell their loved ones and friends about.


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MountainLion1 #11 Posted Oct 02 2019 - 21:06

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Several years ago there was a B17 and B24 that landed in Dallas at Love field. I went to the airfield to see them, they were both beautiful planes. Each time we lose one of these great machines we lose a little more of our country’s history. 

thehelmsman #12 Posted Oct 02 2019 - 22:02

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A terrible loss, not only of human life, but also an irreplaceable piece of history. This is a sad day, indeed.

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Slyv #13 Posted Oct 02 2019 - 22:31

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Nine-O-Nine    

 

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Pipinghot #14 Posted Oct 02 2019 - 22:55

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View PostAndrewSledge, on Oct 02 2019 - 11:36, said:

At some point, maybe they should stop flying these things.

...because brand new planes never crash. That's some solid thinking.



bockscar43 #15 Posted Oct 03 2019 - 00:03

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It's sad to see these warbirds fall victim to unforscene circumstance. But consider that those who grewup with them are also passing into oblivion. The new generation seem to show little intrest in our past, but beware the past continues to creep into the present, our past can become your future...just sayn a crumudigeon

The_Chieftain #16 Posted Oct 03 2019 - 15:31

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View PostPipinghot, on Oct 02 2019 - 15:55, said:

...because brand new planes never crash. That's some solid thinking.

The argument is that there aren't quite as many B-17s as there are, say, 737s or 172s, and they are more likely to survive for the ages if in a hangar properly equipped with fire suppression and so on.

 

I'm not entirely a believer in this argument, they were not made to sit around in a hangar gathering dust, and as long as we have both airworthy and non-airworthy aircraft, I think they should continue to be flown. There will come a point, however, that the aircraft are so rare that the argument for doing everything possible for preservation starts to meet up with the argument for flying them.



FrontenacDuVandoo #17 Posted Oct 03 2019 - 15:48

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These planes are subject to some FAA regulations and inspection that is not that far from any other airplanes, so the airworthiness arguments isn't really a good one.

Historic preservation seems a strange argument seeing how it's currently being done by private individuals or non-profits rather than any government branch.

 

The Collings Foundation finances the upkeep of their planes by offering sight seeing tours, so grounding them would remove their main source of income. It's a bit of a catch-22 if you go down that route.

How much money can a non-profit raise by parking a B17 and a B25 in a hangar vs. visiting various airshow around the country and have people pay to fly in it? Living history is the way to go IMO.



AndrewSledge #18 Posted Oct 03 2019 - 16:23

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View PostPipinghot, on Oct 02 2019 - 14:55, said:

...because brand new planes never crash. That's some solid thinking.

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_surviving_Boeing_B-17_Flying_Fortresses, there's 46 surviving B-17s, of which 10 are airworthy. Considering you can't build originals anymore, at some point the aircraft becomes more valuable existing than flying. I love seeing flying and operable warbirds, but we have a limited supply.



tomcat727 #19 Posted Oct 03 2019 - 18:01

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View PostPipinghot, on Oct 02 2019 - 16:55, said:

...because brand new planes never crash. That's some solid thinking.


uummm 737MAX?????????

 






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