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da_Rock002 #1 Posted Oct 11 2019 - 11:27

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I've been adjusting the skills of some of my crew members and noticed something.

The Mentor skill is supposed to increase the other crew members' Experience.      It's supposed to "Provide additional experience" for all crew members.

 

Where does that experience show up?   After resetting one of my TCs skills so he now had Mentor (a skill he did not have before) I could not find any stats had increased.    The crew members had 132 each just as before.  

 

Is there no crew stat that would show the experience increase Mentor is supposed to give?   



heavymetal1967 #2 Posted Oct 11 2019 - 11:37

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If you just reset it won't have any effect yet.  It increases the amount of xp they earn per battle. 

 

Keep in mind, it's not an increase to skill percentages, but to the xp earned towards raising them.

 

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Crew#Skills

For every 1% of the Training Level of the Commander's Mentor Skill, all crew members except the Commander himself, receive an amount of 0.1% additional experience at the end of every battle, up to a maximum of 10% each when the Mentor Skill reaches 100%. If the Commander's Mentor Skill Training Level increases during the battle, the crew will benefit from the increase.

 

 



angrybovine #3 Posted Oct 11 2019 - 14:29

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The problem with Mentor is:

 

1.  It takes up the place of a certainly better skill a commander can have.  You have to have already taken many skills before Mentor that you would really miss if you hadn't taken them instead.

2.  The extra Crew XP earned for the other crew members is a pittance.  If you aren't already earning good XP in battles, a small number times a smaller number yields a small number.



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Dang, good information I could have used years ago. I'm wasting a crew skill spot on a lot of vehicles. I need to learn to read the fine print.

Ta_Hun_Kwai #5 Posted Oct 11 2019 - 14:50

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the XP you earned from the mentor skill is crew XP as soon as you have the skill trained for every 10% it is you earn 1% crew XP for everyone but the commander so if you earn 1,000 XP in a battle the tank gets 1K XP commander gets 1K XP rest of the crew gets 1,100 XP free XP gets 50 if you also have brothers in arms perk trained on the crew the mentor skill gets 5% bonus making it pay out 10.5% for the crew


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Ta_Hun_Kwai #6 Posted Oct 11 2019 - 14:54

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View PostWaywardChild, on Oct 11 2019 - 05:35, said:

Dang, good information I could have used years ago. I'm wasting a crew skill spot on a lot of vehicles. I need to learn to read the fine print.

yeah the mentor skill has been in the game since the very beginning but a lot of people took it as a waste since you could only get a maximum of three skill slots once they remove that limitation mentor became a more important but people have yet to realize it I've had the mental skill on all my tanks from the start


Edited by Ta_Hun_Kwai, Oct 11 2019 - 16:41.


da_Rock002 #7 Posted Oct 11 2019 - 15:19

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Jeez, it's not a skill at all.      

 

Man that sucks calling it a skill.



Ta_Hun_Kwai #8 Posted Oct 11 2019 - 16:40

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View Postda_Rock002, on Oct 11 2019 - 06:19, said:

Jeez, it's not a skill at all. Man that sucks calling it a skill.

um dude mentor is a skill it pays you 1% per every 10% you have even if it's, not 100% so if you have it at 10% you get 1%


Edited by Ta_Hun_Kwai, Oct 11 2019 - 17:06.


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View Postda_Rock002, on Oct 11 2019 - 11:19, said:

Jeez, it's not a skill at all.      

 

Man that sucks calling it a skill.

 

How is a Commander being able to teach his crew how to do their jobs better over time not a "skill". He has the skill of being able to "teach" better than a Commander without it.

 

It's called a "skill" rather than a "perk" in the UI because it works (partially) prior to reaching 100%, whereas, a "perk" has to be 100% to work at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



da_Rock002 #10 Posted Oct 11 2019 - 21:10

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View PostTa_Hun_Kwai, on Oct 11 2019 - 10:40, said:

um dude mentor is a skill it pays you 1% per every 10% you have even if it's, not 100% so if you have it at 10% you get 1%

 

Just because WG set it up as a skill doesn't make it one.   

It triggers the game to award the crew extra experience.   

It doesn't come close to improving the execution of anything the crew does in battle.     

 

Getting more money from the paymaster because the TC told him to do so isn't anything akin to shooting more accurately or such.   



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View PostGeorgePreddy, on Oct 11 2019 - 11:37, said:

 

How is a Commander being able to teach his crew how to do their jobs better over time not a "skill". He has the skill of being able to "teach" better than a Commander without it.

 

It's called a "skill" rather than a "perk" in the UI because it works (partially) prior to reaching 100%, whereas, a "perk" has to be 100% to work at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That would be a skill of the TC.    The way it's designed, the crew is getting better pay.    They aren't doing a single thing differently by the looks of it.    After all...  Where exactly is their "experience" shown?    



da_Rock002 #12 Posted Oct 11 2019 - 21:18

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So answer the question....

 

Where can crewmember experience be seen?  

And after the next battle, what will show his experience (including of course the extra the TC awards them) increase?



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View Postda_Rock002, on Oct 11 2019 - 17:16, said:

 

That would be a skill of the TC.    The way it's designed, the crew is getting better pay.    They aren't doing a single thing differently by the looks of it.    After all...  Where exactly is their "experience" shown?    

 

Yes, Mentor helps build EVERY CREW MEMBER'S SKILL/PERK faster (except the Commander's) They're not "getting better pay", they are increasing whichever skill/perk they are currently building a bit faster than if the Commander did not have Mentor.  How hard is that to understand ?

 

Whatever skill/perk they are currently building gets higher FASTER. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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View Postda_Rock002, on Oct 11 2019 - 17:18, said:

So answer the question....

 

Where can crewmember experience be seen?  

And after the next battle, what will show his experience (including of course the extra the TC awards them) increase?

 

If you have a tank with a crew that has been together for ALL their battles so that they are all precisely equal in their skills/perks %.  Then you put Mentor on the Commander, you will see, after subsequently playing a moderate number of battles, that all the crew OTHER THAN the Commander (because he's teaching, not learning) will begin to get farther and farther ahead of the Commander in their skill/perk levels.

 

THAT'S where you see it.

 

If you don't understand now... you're just trolling.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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View Postda_Rock002, on Oct 11 2019 - 12:10, said:

Just because WG set it up as a skill doesn't make it one. It triggers the game to award the crew extra experience. It doesn't come close to improving the execution of anything the crew does in battle.  Getting more money from the paymaster because the TC told him to do so isn't anything akin to shooting more accurately or such.   

ok I understand about half of that rant so I'll just make it simple on world of tanks the things that you learn after mastering the tank are call skill and perks based on how they work if it works from 1% to 100% it's a skill if it doesn't work from 1% to 99% and only at 100% it's a perk


Edited by Ta_Hun_Kwai, Oct 12 2019 - 16:33.


da_Rock002 #16 Posted Oct 12 2019 - 11:08

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Like the title asked...……

 

 



dunniteowl #17 Posted Oct 12 2019 - 16:10

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It shows up in additional XP gained by the Crew.  That's where it 'shows up.'  Now if you're asking, "Where can I SEE how much that is on a chart," then the answer is, "You can't."  You can know, however, if you took the time to LOOK at the Battle results for each of your crew, you'd see that the TC gets a bit less XP than the crew that he's "mentoring."  If you compare the TCs XP with any one of the other Crewmembers (as they'll all get the same XP, barring any of them getting 'knocked out' for any time in that battle) in a manner consistent with figuring out ratios and percentages, you can divide the Crew XP by the TC XP and you'll get a decimal equivalent that provides you that percent difference.

 

Currently, as far as I know, that is the only way you can sort it out to 'see' it.  If that's not what you meant, then consider me still stumped by what it is you are hoping to get out of this.

 

 

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