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Maniac57c #1 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 00:29

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Finishing top of my team playing KV2 with nearly twice the damage as the second place guy should NOT lose me $20k silver, even in a loss.

THIS is the kind of crap that makes people want to spend money. Right.

about 600 matches and crew STILL not finished with FIRST PERK.

Nope. When I run out of silver, I'll simply stop playing.

EDIT: (Full HE loadout, of course, and NO premium consumables!.)


Edited by Maniac57c, Oct 18 2019 - 00:30.


tanopasman62 #2 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 00:41

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I fail to understand how you're losing credits on a KV-2, just doing 1k damage should get you credits provided you're not shooting gold nor running premium consumables.

 

Not only that but if you still don't have your first perk after 600 battles, then the problem it's you, you're not playing well enough to generate the needed XP.



DeviouslyCursed #3 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 00:44

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View PostManiac57c, on Oct 18 2019 - 00:29, said:

Finishing top of my team playing KV2 with nearly twice the damage as the second place guy should NOT lose me $20k silver, even in a loss.

THIS is the kind of crap that makes people want to spend money. Right.

about 600 matches and crew STILL not finished with FIRST PERK.

Nope. When I run out of silver, I'll simply stop playing.

EDIT: (Full HE loadout, of course, and NO premium consumables!.)

 

My guess is he renewed his credits camo and didn't realize it. This happens to a lot of people and is understandable.

 

Either that or he is is using prem ammo and doesn't realize it. This would make him an idiot.



death_stryker #4 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 00:46

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Replay/screenshot? How do you lose that many credits in that economical of a tank?

 

Regarding your financial troubles, there are tons of ways to get more credits for free, whether it's personal reserves, clan credit boosters, premium tanks (through missions), and other miscellaneous stuff such as from completing missions.



DeviouslyCursed #5 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 00:47

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View Postdeath_stryker, on Oct 18 2019 - 00:46, said:

Replay/screenshot? How do you lose that many credits in that economical of a tank?

 

Regarding your financial troubles, there are tons of ways to get more credits for free, whether it's personal reserves, clan credit boosters, premium tanks (through missions), and other miscellaneous stuff such as from completing missions.

 

The goofball has a tier 8 prem, if he can't figure out how to get credits, it's no big loss for the game anyway.



the_dude_76 #6 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 00:47

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View PostManiac57c, on Oct 17 2019 - 17:29, said:

Finishing top of my team playing KV2 with nearly twice the damage as the second place guy should NOT lose me $20k silver, even in a loss.

 

 

You're right it shouldn't... I can't even imagine what you could be doing to get that result.

 

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 about 600 matches and crew STILL not finished with FIRST PERK.

 

This fail is also incomprehensible to me... Are you sure the crew is trained for the right tank??



Pipinghot #7 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 00:59

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View PostManiac57c, on Oct 17 2019 - 18:29, said:

Finishing top of my team playing KV2 with nearly twice the damage as the second place guy should NOT lose me $20k silver, even in a loss.

That's hard to believe without screen shots, something isn't adding up.

 

If you didn't use any premium ammo, and you didn't use any premium consumables, do you have camo that you pay for with silver? It sounds like it was time to make the next payment on your camo.

View PostManiac57c, on Oct 17 2019 - 18:29, said:

about 600 matches and crew STILL not finished with FIRST PERK.

1) You have 486 matches in the KV-2, not "about 600".

2) Your average XP per battle is 237

3) 486 * 237 = 115,182 total XP earned

4) It takes 210,064 XP to take your first perk from 0-100.

You're about halfway to completing that first perk, there's nothing unusual or surprising about this.

 

If you want to learn more about the game people are willing to help you, but this is not a good game for impatient people. If you don't want to learn the game that's obviously your choice, but don't expect people to feel sorry for you if you don't want to learn. If you think you're going to rush to Tier X or rush to raise skills/perks I can tell you right now that's not going to happen.

 

Small piece of advice, you're not ready for Tier VII yet, you need to spend more time at Tier V & VI until you improve your knowledge and skill at the game.



Copacetic #8 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 01:02

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View Postthe_dude_76, on Oct 18 2019 - 00:47, said:

 

You're right it shouldn't... I can't even imagine what you could be doing to get that result.

 

 

This fail is also incomprehensible to me... Are you sure the crew is trained for the right tank??

lol



Copacetic #9 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 01:10

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View PostPipinghot, on Oct 18 2019 - 00:59, said:

That's hard to believe without screen shots, something isn't adding up.

 

If you didn't use any premium ammo, and you didn't use any premium consumables, do you have camo that you pay for with silver? It sounds like it was time to make the next payment on your camo.

1) You have 486 matches in the KV-2, not "about 600".

2) Your average XP per battle is 237

3) 486 * 237 = 115,182 total XP earned

4) It takes 210,064 XP to take your first perk from 0-100.

You're about halfway to completing that first perk, there's nothing unusual or surprising about this.

 

If you want to learn more about the game people are willing to help you, but this is not a good game for impatient people. If you don't want to learn the game that's obviously your choice, but don't expect people to feel sorry for you if you don't want to learn. If you think you're going to rush to Tier X or rush to raise skills/perks I can tell you right now that's not going to happen.

 

Small piece of advice, you're not ready for Tier VII yet, you need to spend more time at Tier V & VI until you improve your knowledge and skill at the game.

doh! numbers and math!



Projectile_Misfired #10 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 01:19

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View PostManiac57c, on Oct 17 2019 - 23:29, said:

Finishing top of my team playing KV2 with nearly twice the damage as the second place guy should NOT lose me $20k silver, even in a loss.

THIS is the kind of crap that makes people want to spend money. Right.

about 600 matches and crew STILL not finished with FIRST PERK.

Nope. When I run out of silver, I'll simply stop playing.

EDIT: (Full HE loadout, of course, and NO premium consumables!.)

Why do you have to wait until you run out of credits?

If you're not having fun, quit. It's a game and should be played for fun.

If you do have fun playing but are getting frustrated with it a bit, take a break. Play a different game, binge some series you've been meaning to catch up on, go outside and do something, or maybe even pickup and read a book. 



xxBigbacon #11 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 02:36

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Economy in the game is a joke and outdated. You shoukd never lose credits for just playing unless you use consumables and gold rounds.

 

 



Copacetic #12 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 02:37

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WG just wants you to stop mooching and buy premium time



largeelvis #13 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 02:41

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 WG just wants you to stop mooching and buy premium time

 

Stop mooching? Tell wargaming that maybe charging 3-4 times more than other games for premium time over a year is [edited]stupid.



Altwar #14 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 03:05

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View PostxxBigbacon, on Oct 17 2019 - 17:36, said:

Economy in the game is a joke and outdated. You shoukd never lose credits for just playing unless you use consumables and gold rounds.

 

The economy is fine. You seem to fail to understand it. 

 

This game has relative balances in place and one of those balances is the cost to operate different tier tanks.  If a player plays low tiers and use some ammunition, they should still turn a modest profit.  As players go up in tier, that becomes dependent on things like shots fired actually doing something more than breaking destructible buildings and bouncing off targets.  At the higher tiers, tanks cost more, the repairs cost more and players have to achieve more to achieve a credit profit.  It's either that or players purchase/earn premium time and or premium tanks to earn enough credits to fund the play of their upper tier tanks. 

 

This curve of earnings, where a player can do little at lower tiers and earn credits, as opposed to do little and lose a lot of credits at high tiers is to ensure that players just can't all exist at tier 10 with no consequence.  Get better at tanks as a player goes up in tier so you can maintain some credit earnings, or premium time/tanks for that extra 50% to sustain whatever progress they are making, even if they aren't doing very well.  Remember, even if premium ammo and consumables aren't being used, there's still a cost.  There is always a cost unless a player does nothing, and the tank suffers no harm.



steelandpain #15 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 03:51

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For casual, and especially new players, this game is a grind, it's designed to be, to encourage you to get a premium account and premium tanks. That said, a premium account is reasonably priced, even if you're playing a few hours a week. Even then it's discouraging for new players, who are usually bad, to play against better players who have better tanks/crews/equipment. Unless you have friends who are playing this game, you're not likely to stick around.

Maniac57c #16 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 04:16

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View PostCopacetic, on Oct 18 2019 - 02:37, said:

WG just wants you to stop mooching and buy premium time

Nope. Console taught me too well. 

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Maniac57c #17 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 04:18

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Also, thanks for all the useful and well meant advice.

And lol at the tryhard stat shaming toxic anime sig brigade displaying their inherent superiority at playing imaginary pixel tanks for the plebes to ooh & ahh at.



I_QQ_4_U #18 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 05:00

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I find this story highly improbable. It's very hard to lose credits at tier 6, even without a premium account, unless you use a lot of premium ammo, consumables, do little damage and die.

I_QQ_4_U #19 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 05:02

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View PostPipinghot, on Oct 18 2019 - 00:59, said:

 

1) You have 486 matches in the KV-2, not "about 600".

 

He did say on the crew, not the tank, but yeah if you don't play well you don't make XP.


Edited by I_QQ_4_U, Oct 18 2019 - 05:02.


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View Postlargeelvis, on Oct 17 2019 - 20:41, said:

 

Stop mooching? Tell wargaming that maybe charging 3-4 times more than other games for premium time over a year is [edited]stupid.

World of warcraft classic is charging 15$ cdn per month.  WoT is a bargain in comparison. 






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