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Filthywon #1 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 01:11

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It is part of the game, it's within the rules ,what about players who use food?  They have an unfair advantage, or those players with six skill crews vs people with only 50% crews? 

 

You know what the difference is? You can't see that you got shot by a 6 skill crew or a player that uses food or improved equipment, all you can see it's what type of round they used.

 

I propose they get rid of the "gold" round in the hit report and the crying would stop. All it should say is what vehicle hit you and how much damage it did. Now they are messing with HE, the more WG screws with stuff the worse things get. 

 

What the eye doesn't see the heart doesn't feel.


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stalkervision #2 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 01:18

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Your last statement is too funny. I would explain why but if you ever go to prison you will find out for yourself. :teethhappy:

Filthywon #3 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 01:24

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View Poststalkervision, on Oct 17 2019 - 19:18, said:

Your last statement is too funny. I would explain why but if you ever go to prison you will find out for yourself. :teethhappy:

I've been alot of places, my point is more towards say federal withholding, not visiting violence.



_PoliticallyIncorrect #4 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 01:29

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You started playing in 2016, 4 years after armor officially became worthless. You have a blind perspective, because you were not around back when armor actually meant something on more than 4 tanks out of the entire game. 

Insanefriend #5 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 01:41

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The problem people have with it is that it creates a pay to win atmosphere.  Unlike food which has draw backs if you choose to run it, burn baby burn.  If you've always run premium time you don't know how hard it is to make credits as a free to play player.  Some tanks the premium rounds are so flat out better it's sickening really.  The ammo in the game should more so reflect what is the right choice for the moment not I haz credits watch me pew pew.

 

It really created a armor balance problem, it's how we ended up with the type 5 heavy.  If people don't shoot premium it's op, if they do it's armor is junk.


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Filthywon #6 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 02:01

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I honestly am not trying to start an argument or troll just trying to understand somebody with a 6 plus skill crew could have fire fighting and preventive maintenance and still run food and improved equipment making it easier for their non-premium rounds to hit the weak spot on the enemy tank versus the 50% crew who's rounds go into the dirt.

 

 My point is the only thing we can see is what round hit us everything else I mentioned above we have no knowledge of. And thats what people are complaining about, what they can see that's my only point.

 

I have only been playing this game for 3 years but it seems every time they try to improve something like artillery people are complaining about the stun, it makes things worse now high explosive rounds I like the game for what it is. 



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View PostFilthywon, on Oct 18 2019 - 02:01, said:

I honestly am not trying to start an argument or troll just trying to understand ...

 

 

Dude, don't be obtuse. Go read your title and OP again.



Harvester_0f_Sorrow #8 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 02:11

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View Poststalkervision, on Oct 17 2019 - 16:18, said:

Your last statement is too funny. I would explain why but if you ever go to prison you will find out for yourself. :teethhappy:

WOW that is a weird thing to say. I take it you know for yourself, that must have been terrible.



Filthywon #9 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 02:20

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View PostMissCreant, on Oct 17 2019 - 20:08, said:

 

 

Dude, don't be obtuse. Go read your title and OP again.

Your right, I shouldn't have used the term whiners in the title. It just that it's an everyday topic. After a while it gets old.



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Op, one negates proper armor usage, the other makes you reload faster

PanzerXO #11 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 02:27

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View Post_PoliticallyIncorrect, on Oct 17 2019 - 19:29, said:

You started playing in 2016, 4 years after armor officially became worthless. You have a blind perspective, because you were not around back when armor actually meant something on more than 4 tanks out of the entire game. 

Pfaugh - I've been around since armor was useless - because when I started the TopClanz guys all carried gold (which cost plebs money - but they got it free from map control in CWs).

This 'the game was better before SPrem' thing is nonsense.  Only good players and whales used to have it... Except for all the rest of us who also carried 5-7 rounds just in case

 

The only difference is that every swinging Richard can get SPrem for credits now - not just the tryhards 



Harvester_0f_Sorrow #12 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 02:31

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Gold rounds are a necessary part of the game. Unless they get rid of +-2 matchmaking we cant get rid of them.  Especially for light tanks, their pen is terrible and a tier 8 fighting tier 10s is already absurd. Not only do we need them to pen highly armored tanks (which doesn't always work) but with apcr the velocity is way better. Sometimes I use apcr just so I have a chance of hitting fast tanks.

HeraldricKnight #13 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 02:32

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View PostFilthywon, on Oct 18 2019 - 00:11, said:

It is part of the game, it's within the rules ,what about players who use food?  They have an unfair advantage, or those players with six skill crews vs people with only 50% crews? 

 

One is starting to dictate how tanks are being designed for the game, the other is a flat % buff to crew. One became such a bane when it went to silver that Wargaming overbuffed Super Heavies, the other doesn't increase performance as immensely as 'speshul' ammo. One can change the way a tank behaves, the other slightly improves it. 

 

View PostHarvester_0f_Sorrow, on Oct 18 2019 - 01:31, said:

Gold rounds are a necessary part of the game. Unless they get rid of +-2 matchmaking we cant get rid of them.  Especially for light tanks, their pen is terrible and a tier 8 fighting tier 10s is already absurd. Not only do we need them to pen highly armored tanks (which doesn't always work) but with apcr the velocity is way better. Sometimes I use apcr just so I have a chance of hitting fast tanks.

 

If you need to shoot gold in a Light Tank, you're doing it wrong. 



Filthywon #14 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 02:37

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View PostVulcan_Spectre, on Oct 17 2019 - 20:24, said:

Op, one negates proper armor usage, the other makes you reload faster

Finish your point...it makes you reload faster, then the 6 skill crew (that you can now train in 10 minutes with credits) can fire that round more accurately with all those skills perks,  food and improved equipment. Nobody says a peep about that, it's the premium ammo only. Just want to point that out. 395 pen is zero pen when it hits a track, or the ground. 



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lol your argument is meaningless because you are hiding your stats. I do pretty good in light tanks, how about you? But I couldn't believe what you say either way.

HeraldricKnight #16 Posted Oct 18 2019 - 02:46

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View PostHarvester_0f_Sorrow, on Oct 18 2019 - 01:41, said:

lol your argument is meaningless because you are hiding your stats. I do pretty good in light tanks, how about you? But I couldn't believe what you say either way.


I'm not hiding anything. There are few cases where gold ammo is meaningful in a Light. Outside of those, you're wasting credits. 



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View PostHeraldricKnight, on Oct 17 2019 - 17:46, said:


I'm not hiding anything. There are few cases where gold ammo is meaningful in a Light. Outside of those, you're wasting credits.

Weird it said zero battles before. Anyways I am not the greatest player but your stats are terrible in light tanks. Sooooo yeah you are not doing it right lol. And for some reason you talk like you know how to play them better.



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View PostHarvester_0f_Sorrow, on Oct 18 2019 - 02:03, said:

Weird it said zero battles before. Anyways I am not the greatest player but your stats are terrible in light tanks. Sooooo yeah you are not doing it right lol. And for some reason you talk like you know how to play them better.

 

I've ground all the Light Tanks to Tier VIII. I've also have less games in them, which were spent grinding for modules. But the only difference that makes is that I will surpass you once I catch up time wise, since you depend on gold to bail you out, where I take the Taugrim route and study a few heavies and mediums from time to time to know where to shoot. 

 

To say that Light Tanks need gold is being dishonest. Does it help in certain situations, yes, but it doesn't make or break Light Tanks. 



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View PostHeraldricKnight, on Oct 17 2019 - 18:31, said:

 

I've ground all the Light Tanks to Tier VIII. I've also have less games in them, which were spent grinding for modules. But the only difference that makes is that I will surpass you once I catch up time wise, since you depend on gold to bail you out, where I take the Taugrim route and study a few heavies and mediums from time to time to know where to shoot.

 

To say that Light Tanks need gold is being dishonest. Does it help in certain situations, yes, but it doesn't make or break Light Tanks.

bahahahaaa well good luck with that



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View PostHeraldricKnight, on Oct 17 2019 - 21:31, said:

 

I've ground all the Light Tanks to Tier VIII. I've also have less games in them, which were spent grinding for modules. But the only difference that makes is that I will surpass you once I catch up time wise, since you depend on gold to bail you out, where I take the Taugrim route and study a few heavies and mediums from time to time to know where to shoot. 

 

To say that Light Tanks need gold is being dishonest. Does it help in certain situations, yes, but it doesn't make or break Light Tanks. 


Shooting gold with light tanks only matters if you want to win.






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