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TheGhost_wP #1 Posted Oct 19 2019 - 01:17

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Make any damage done by gold rounds not apply to WIN8 calculations. I promise you it will end about 70% of gold spam. It's mainly padders trying to get their damage up to get or stay in top tier clans, damage factors heavily in WIN8 ratings. If you spam gold 100% of your damage is from gold, and you make gold damage worth 0 damage in WIN8 calculations that would mean they would end games with 0 damage, destroying their WIN8. If you want to go one further make it so it doesn't calculate in XP generation either, gold spammers would show up at the bottom of the list every time.

At very least it will have XP and WIN8 accurately reflect actual skill instead of encouraging padding techniques.

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Trailer_Trashed #2 Posted Oct 19 2019 - 01:21

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You do realize that WN8 is not a WG thing, don't you?  In other words, WG has no input on WN8 or it's calculations.

JEDIDIEUGH #3 Posted Oct 19 2019 - 01:34

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View PostTrailer_Trashed, on Oct 18 2019 - 16:21, said:

You do realize that WN8 is not a WG thing, don't you?  In other words, WG has no input on WN8 or it's calculations.

or that it wouldn't matter if your wn8 was bad because top clans look at DPGs and WR before wn8.



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Fix for gold spam?  Roll accuracy back to what it used to be.

JEDIDIEUGH #5 Posted Oct 19 2019 - 02:14

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View PostCedricMacLaren, on Oct 18 2019 - 16:40, said:

Fix for gold spam?  Roll accuracy back to what it used to be.

Yeah those accuracy nerfs in 9.6 were actually infuriating to say the least. It didn't seem noticeable at the time, but as time as progressed and more tanks come out with better and better dispersion values, it becomes baffling when you miss a shot in Strv 103b at 200 m. That and the exodus of weakspots have made using gold a necessity rather than an annoyance.



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View PostTheGhost_wP, on Oct 18 2019 - 19:17, said:

Make any damage done by gold rounds not apply to WIN8 calculations.

That would only work for idiots who don't understand why WN8 exists and what it's supposed to be used for.

 

Everyone with any intelligence and common sense would still care about their win rate.



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View PostTheGhost_wP, on Oct 18 2019 - 18:17, said:

Make any damage done by gold rounds not apply to WIN8 calculations. I promise you it will end about 70% of gold spam. It's mainly padders trying to get their damage up to get or stay in top tier clans, damage factors heavily in WIN8 ratings. If you spam gold 100% of your damage is from gold, and you make gold damage worth 0 damage in WIN8 calculations that would mean they would end games with 0 damage, destroying their WIN8. If you want to go one further make it so it doesn't calculate in XP generation either, gold spammers would show up at the bottom of the list every time.

At very least it will have XP and WIN8 accurately reflect actual skill instead of encouraging padding techniques.


Wait, don't spoil this yet.  War Gaming is about to change HE to the point that everyone will now only shoot gold ammo.  Gold ammo needs no more fixing as WG is about to really make money off the foolish player base that falls for this.  Your going to ruin this.  Serb told you not to do this and hear you go spilling the beans way to early.



JakeTheMystic #8 Posted Oct 19 2019 - 02:46

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View PostJEDIDIEUGH, on Oct 18 2019 - 15:34, said:

or that it wouldn't matter if your wn8 was bad because top clans look at DPGs and WR before wn8.

 

I can prove that false. Unless you're clubbing at tier 6 and below, clans just dont care. I've been in a certain top 7 clan that was only asking for 2500 recents, I was at 2400 and they said no. Told them I'll club to get there, padded in the kv-2 and they let me in with 2600. People just dont care in a dying game, as long as you're not trash or make the clan look bad. 



JEDIDIEUGH #9 Posted Oct 19 2019 - 03:11

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View PostJakeTheMystic, on Oct 18 2019 - 17:46, said:

 

I can prove that false. Unless you're clubbing at tier 6 and below, clans just dont care. I've been in a certain top 7 clan that was only asking for 2500 recents, I was at 2400 and they said no. Told them I'll club to get there, padded in the kv-2 and they let me in with 2600. People just dont care in a dying game, as long as you're not trash or make the clan look bad. 

Jake, the best clan I've ever seen you in was FOCUS and I don't consider them a top clan. I've been denied from clans because my tier 10 dpgs and such were not up to scratch (and I had 3500 wn8 at tier 9 at the time). When I say top clan, I really only mean the top 2 or 3 clans on the server. As that pertains to OP's original post, the players in those select few clans care more about your DPGs and WR at high tier.



TheGhost_wP #10 Posted Oct 21 2019 - 01:20

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View PostTrailer_Trashed, on Oct 19 2019 - 00:21, said:

You do realize that WN8 is not a WG thing, don't you?  In other words, WG has no input on WN8 or it's calculations.

 

View PostJEDIDIEUGH, on Oct 19 2019 - 00:34, said:

or that it wouldn't matter if your wn8 was bad because top clans look at DPGs and WR before wn8.

 

WIN8 gets its damage calculations from WG, if damage done by gold isnt reflected on your WG stats it wont be reflected on on your damage or win8 overall



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View PostTheGhost_wP, on Oct 21 2019 - 01:20, said:

 

 

WIN8 gets its damage calculations from WG, if damage done by gold isnt reflected on your WG stats it wont be reflected on on your damage or win8 overall

 

So, basically only keep track of the stats that YOU want them to keep track of in order to sooth YOUR butt hurt over how some people play?  Sounds childish and petty to me.


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View PostTrailer_Trashed, on Oct 21 2019 - 23:16, said:

 

So, basically only keep track of the stats that YOU want them to keep track of in order to sooth YOUR butt hurt over how some people play?  Sounds childish and petty to me.

 

I don't understand the point? WIN8 and PR calculations have changed several times over the years to more accurately reflect persons actual skill level. Like are you saying we should go back to the first iteration because we shouldn't cave into the original butt hurt people? Also I didn't know "farming credits with premium so you could spam gold with OP tanks in order to up your ratings" is a play style that accurately reflects skill... WIN8 and PR is supposed to give someone an idea of true skill level.



Troa_Barton #13 Posted Oct 22 2019 - 11:22

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Make them 3 times more expensive and 90% of its use will end. If 1 battle would cost you 500,000+ credits to spam that gold people wouldn't do it. They may for a while but that's way too unsustainable to keep up. As it is you can break even in most cases so long as you pen.

No matter how they go about it they have to make the regular rounds bearable. Vestigial guns like the French 105 that does 30 more damage when you use gold need to be brought up to par. A lot of the German guns before you reach the top gun are trash, T32's stock gun is another example.



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View PostTheGhost_wP, on Oct 22 2019 - 04:26, said:

 

I don't understand the point? WIN8 and PR calculations have changed several times over the years to more accurately reflect persons actual skill level. Like are you saying we should go back to the first iteration because we shouldn't cave into the original butt hurt people? Also I didn't know "farming credits with premium so you could spam gold with OP tanks in order to up your ratings" is a play style that accurately reflects skill... WIN8 and PR is supposed to give someone an idea of true skill level.

 

Premium rounds and premium tanks ARE part of the game.  I would say the "more skillful" player would be the one that uses all components of the game that are available to them.

 

I get the impression that you put a lot of importance on your (and others) WN8 value....like you somehow feel like it has value.  In reality, it has no value.  Maybe if you stop worrying about how others obtain their WN8 value, you might enjoy yourself more.....or at least you might reduce the WN8 envy you seem to have.  Maybe enrolling in some self-esteem courses at your local community college would help you overcome this WN8 envy.


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