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Poll: He rebalancing opinions (55 members have cast votes)

Do you think HE shells should be nerfed?

  1. Yes, a little bit (8 votes [14.55%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.55%

  2. Yes, a lot (5 votes [9.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  3. No (42 votes [76.36%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 76.36%

Do you approve of the current HE rebalancing?

  1. Yes, it works all the way (6 votes [10.91%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.91%

  2. No, it doesn't work at all (37 votes [67.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 67.27%

  3. Yes, but with changes (6 votes [10.91%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.91%

  4. No, but with changes (6 votes [10.91%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.91%

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BatmanBurrito227 #1 Posted Oct 21 2019 - 03:53

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Wargaming can you not

tanopasman62 #2 Posted Oct 21 2019 - 04:17

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Wargaming can you not x2

JakeTheMystic #3 Posted Oct 21 2019 - 05:26

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WG can you not x3

n4cer67 #4 Posted Oct 21 2019 - 05:33

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WG can you not X4.

 

HE nerf is horrible idea. Many players (contrary to the article) use the HE rounds when AP can't do anything. Funny how they claim this is supposed to encourage people to use standard rounds when HE is one of the standard rounds. I hope this ideas dies in the sandbox.



RoIito #5 Posted Oct 21 2019 - 05:36

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WG can you not x5

leeuniverse #6 Posted Oct 21 2019 - 05:36

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My opinion is that a re-balancing of HE was needed, but THEY ARE DOING IT ALL WRONG...

 

People have complained about TWO Things in relation to "Derps"...

- Massive High Damage

- Inconsistent Damage (no-damage and extremely low-damage i.e. "15" damage hits)

 

Thus Wargaming, your "solutions" should address those two problems...  The below does so, your changes are BAD, going too far!

 

1. I'm for you "normalizing" HE more, so no more "no damage" shots, and no more "15" Damage shots for example.

 

2. I'm for you "nerfing" the massive derps by HALF, for example, just yesterday in either my TVP 50/51 or Standard B, I was FULL HP Derped 1800 Damage by a **** Barn.

That shouldn't happen, especially at T10.

 

3. I'm NOT for you nerfing, for example, the T49's Derp, max possible it doing like 1100 when really lucky generally on some tanks "butt", though generally it's 800-900 when you're lucky.

Most of the time you're doing 250-350 damage against tanks, even Lights.  Thus nerfing the T49's HE is stupid town.

- It was already nerfed to crap with the Great Physics Nerf which slowed down its speed,

- and the 2 round placement nerfs that's also occurred since then ruining its accuracy. 

- As well, when you previously reworked HE focusing on HE with Arty, though it affecting ALL tanks, it was nerfed then too making it doing less damage.

 

The T49 actually needs to be buffed due to all these prior nerfs, and you're going to nerf it even more???

Nerfs to derps should be based on a tank by tank basis.  Not all derps are the same.

A T49 should not be nerfed to the same degree that a Death Star or FV4005 is.  For example, I would be okay with a 200 drop in damage of the T49 from 1100 to 900, but ONLY if the below was also done.  Like for the T49, I would like its Bloom reduced and it's accuracy improved.

 

4. You need to BUFF tank characteristics... to compensate for the damage nerf.  Buff their Power/Acceleration and Buff Gun characteristics.

For example, I don't play the **** Barn because it can't move or shoot worth a crap.  But I play the T49 because it can (speed at least), makes the occasional derp worth it.

So, the **** Barn needs its speeds especially greatly increased to make me want to play it, for consistently doing well in the tank, if you're going to nerf its derp.

 

Conclusion...

Pro - I'm for the overall "buffing" of HE's "reliability".

Against - The nerfing of damage amounts should be "tank by tank" (not across the board), it's high damage derps that's the problem, like the Death Star or **** Barn, NOT regular derps like the T49 (though I would be fine with losing 200 of its potential highest damage, to give the tank better bloom and accuracy due to prior nerfs to the tank mentioned above).

Nerfing of a tank's damage with HE etc. should be according to the Tank in question, the degree that its derp is a problem.  NOT ALL Derps are a problem... or as much of one...  For example, the Death Star and FV4005's max derp should be cut in HALF and the below done.  However, a Derp like the T49 either shouldn't be touched, or it's max derp reduced from 1100 to 900 instead, but the below also done.

Add - Buffs to tank characteristics should occur to compensate for damage nerfs.

 

Bottom line... Wargaming, you are Nerfing the Derps WAY too much and wrongly so (not all derps are the same requiring an equal nerfing), and you're not adding compensating buffs.



ShizuoYimato #7 Posted Oct 21 2019 - 05:39

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WG can you not x6
 


Michelin2433 #8 Posted Oct 21 2019 - 05:46

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WG get hecked stoopids

Queso99 #9 Posted Oct 21 2019 - 05:51

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WG can you not x99

Harvester_0f_Sorrow #10 Posted Oct 21 2019 - 06:15

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second part of poll does not make any sense

HyoRin #11 Posted Oct 21 2019 - 08:51

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Wargaming can you not x7

EddyMcChuckleNuggets #12 Posted Oct 21 2019 - 08:55

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If damage should be more consistent, then just remove the +-25% RNG and fix/simplify anything regarding the mechanics used to calculate the damage.

Yes it should be more reliable, but not in the sense that it deals an impractical amount every time. If you throw in the additional HP tanks will be receiving at some point, said damage will be even more impractical.

Edited by EddyMcChuckleNuggets, Oct 21 2019 - 09:00.


Herschel_Krustofski #13 Posted Oct 21 2019 - 11:17

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Wargaming can you not x3.14

Radio_Demon #14 Posted Oct 21 2019 - 15:20

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Currently he rounds are the rounds for people to do damage that have no clue how to actually do dmg.  I fully approve of this change even if it makes some players quit.  Since I dont consider people that use deep guns or only he players I consider them worthless

RoIito #15 Posted Oct 21 2019 - 23:40

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View PostChtholly_Seniorious, on Oct 21 2019 - 09:20, said:

Currently he rounds are the rounds for people to do damage that have no clue how to actually do dmg.  I fully approve of this change even if it makes some players quit.  Since I dont consider people that use deep guns or only he players I consider them worthless

 

"Everyone must play how I want them to play otherwise they are worthless" Can we stop this bs please.



FrDashing #16 Posted Oct 22 2019 - 05:34

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View PostChtholly_Seniorious, on Oct 21 2019 - 09:20, said:

Currently he rounds are the rounds for people to do damage that have no clue how to actually do dmg.  I fully approve of this change even if it makes some players quit.  Since I dont consider people that use deep guns or only he players I consider them worthless

 

I think you mean Gold rounds.



Troa_Barton #17 Posted Oct 22 2019 - 11:13

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Wargaming can you not x8

Whistling_Death_ #18 Posted Oct 22 2019 - 12:24

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Wargaming, please, I beg you, do not nerf HE rounds!  You will destroy many tanks that people love to play because they are fun to play when using HE rounds!

 

Don't nerf the fun of the game!  You will make thousands of players quit!  Every time you nerf something, you make players quit the game!  This happens over and over and over!  They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result.  Do you ever learn?!

 

Don't nerf HE rounds!



Radio_Demon #19 Posted Oct 22 2019 - 13:47

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View PostFrDashing, on Oct 22 2019 - 05:34, said:

 

I think you mean Gold rounds.

No because if a told round doesn't pen or hits tracks then it does 0



Whistling_Death_ #20 Posted Oct 26 2019 - 00:46

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Everyone, please take a moment to submit a ticket to W.o.T. expressing your displeasure with this suggestion of nerfing HE rounds.  If enough of us do this, it will bring this all to a screeching halt and save this great game!

 

W.o.T. Customer Service; "Suggestions and Feedback" -  https://na.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wot/help/


Edited by Whistling_Death_, Oct 26 2019 - 01:34.






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