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PanzerXO #1 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 05:13

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… please enable the 50 cal on my tanks so I can shoot up the wheelies more bettah!

 

(I mean, that's why tanks have a Fitty, rite? )

 

Also - Can we have 'Skill Based Spawning" so the agro players and scouts (etc.  ) get the good spawns / don't get caught in traffic?

 

And what is it about the Blimp on Redshire?  Why does it just magically appear when the counter stops?  Doesn't that thing teleporting in just seem weird?

 

Further - why are the lights on in the destroyed factory buildings on Pilsen?  Don't you think with that much destruction, the power would be out?

 

Another weird thing: why does the South team get a Suicide ledge on Himmels - but the North team is all walled in?

 

These are extremely important issues


Edited by PanzerXO, Oct 23 2019 - 16:54.


Rena_Dyne #2 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 05:33

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View PostPanzerXO, on Oct 22 2019 - 20:13, said:

… please enable the 50 cal on my tanks so I can shoot up the wheelies more bettah!

 

(I mean, that's why tanks have a Fitty, rite? )

 

The .50 was almost exclusively on american tanks up until the cold war, the US was super protective of the browning and there were standing orders to slag it if it could not be taken with them when a tank was destroyed. Also it was for anti-air use, but, well, its very good at murdering everything else.

 

However, I believe that the Coaxial in US tanks was mostly the M1919 browning 30.06 (7.62) machine gun, not the browning M2 HMG, which mostly sat on the Pintle mounts on the hatches.

 

assuming most nations get their historical Coaxial or pintle machine guns, you'd be looking at *mostly* 7.62MM machine guns, which would have less penetration {and in reality the browning has about 25MM of penetration at 250M} than the US .50 cal, and thats if they don't have the aforementioned M1919 mounted instead of the M2. You might also get some pintle-mounted DSHK's on the Later Russian/Chinese tanks.

 

edit: oh, this post was a joke, disregard all this then i suppose. RIP.


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Stormer100 #3 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 07:00

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View PostRena_Dyne, on Oct 23 2019 - 04:33, said:

 

edit: oh, this post was a joke, disregard all this then i suppose. RIP.

I thought you were just going along with the joke the whole time XD



PanzerXO #4 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 13:26

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View PostRena_Dyne, on Oct 22 2019 - 23:33, said:

 

The .50 was almost exclusively on american tanks up until the cold war, the US was super protective of the browning and there were standing orders to slag it if it could not be taken with them when a tank was destroyed. Also it was for anti-air use, but, well, its very good at murdering everything else.

 

However, I believe that the Coaxial in US tanks was mostly the M1919 browning 30.06 (7.62) machine gun, not the browning M2 HMG, which mostly sat on the Pintle mounts on the hatches.

 

assuming most nations get their historical Coaxial or pintle machine guns, you'd be looking at *mostly* 7.62MM machine guns, which would have less penetration {and in reality the browning has about 25MM of penetration at 250M} than the US .50 cal, and thats if they don't have the aforementioned M1919 mounted instead of the M2. You might also get some pintle-mounted DSHK's on the Later Russian/Chinese tanks.

 

edit: oh, this post was a joke, disregard all this then i suppose. RIP.

Not totally a joke... Not entirely. 

i.e. I really do wonder about the odd choices of the artists w/regard to the blimp and the lights and why one team can snipe from the hill, but the other can't.

 

I also know that WG isn't going to do anything about the wheelies - given that they're making HE weaker (and HE would destroy any one of the things IRL) - and that WG would rather make up fake RU 2 gunned tanks, rather than enabling the guns on the tanks currently.  (the joke within the joke is merely suggesting anything to WG in hopes that they will improve /implement anything!) 

 

All that said - I appreciate the response.  I did not know that most tank's pintle mounted guns were 30 cals. (I presumed the bow and coax were).  Further I did not know that it was exclusive to the US, either. 

 

What I can say is that I recognize the 12.7s on the RU Meds and just presumed the CWS guns in game were all 50 cals., and. 50 cals tear up light armored wheeled vehicles (as does HE... But oh well) 



Cowcat137 #5 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 13:54

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I have the IS-7 3d skin with the twin barrel 23mm autocannons on the turret. Would LOVE to cut them loose on a wheelie.

Cowcat137 #6 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 13:56

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Also the Maus has that coax 75mm  from the Panzer IV. They have no excuse not to activate it now.  Sure they're different calibers but Maus is a legit double cannon tank too.

 



PanzerXO #7 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 13:57

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Me too #wheeliestouchedmethereandthereandthere

CanadianPuppy #8 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 14:20

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What about the tanks with 2+ machine guns? The T2 Light has 2 .50 Browning (I think). The Vickers Medium I has 5 (maybe more) machine guns. There's also tanks with machine guns in the rear of the turret, how would those be used?

PanzerXO #9 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 15:48

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View PostYANKEE137, on Oct 23 2019 - 07:56, said:

Also the Maus has that coax 75mm  from the Panzer IV. They have no excuse not to activate it now.  Sure they're different calibers but Maus is a legit double cannon tank too.

 

That would be bad add in a Tier 8 match! 



tanopasman62 #10 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 15:54

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No.

AndrewSledge #11 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 16:01

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View PostPanzerXO, on Oct 22 2019 - 21:13, said:

 

 

And what is it about the Blimp on Redshire?  Why does it just magically appear when the counter stops?  Doesn't that thing teleporting in just seem weird?

 

 

The zeppelin just beamed out of hyperspace, after it fought in the Battle of Endor on the side of the Empire...



spud_tuber #12 Posted Oct 24 2019 - 00:18

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View PostYANKEE137, on Oct 23 2019 - 06:56, said:

Also the Maus has that coax 75mm  from the Panzer IV. They have no excuse not to activate it now.  Sure they're different calibers but Maus is a legit double cannon tank too.

 

Speaking of panzers, doesn't the pz 58 have a coax 20mm?



ARR0ZD0CE #13 Posted Oct 24 2019 - 03:13

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If were going to have double barrelled tanks, we should have tanks with automated cannons that automatically fire at ebr's who get too close (only ebr's) 

We should also have tanks that can float in water to prevent drowing
We should also have tanks that can transform into artillery vehicles (think overwatch's bastion) and then back into tanks.
We should also have tanks that can dispense self replicating scout machines that will disperse forward from the selected direction and yolo spot much like teamates in ebr's do.
We should also buff HE

 



3nr0n #14 Posted Oct 24 2019 - 14:37

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Why not have those tanks with smoke canister dispensers work?  You could pop smoke for concealment, it's available in FL.

Flame tanks?  The M4 and others had that capability?

How about the ZSU-57-2? 

 



Flarvin #15 Posted Oct 24 2019 - 15:05

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View PostRena_Dyne, on Oct 22 2019 - 23:33, said:

The .50 was almost exclusively on american tanks up until the cold war, the US was super protective of the browning and there were standing orders to slag it if it could not be taken with them when a tank was destroyed. Also it was for anti-air use, but, well, its very good at murdering everything else.


The soviets had a .50 cal, DShK. 
 

Which was mounted on tanks also. 

 

 



Rides_with_Death #16 Posted Oct 24 2019 - 15:25

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Dosent one of the low tier french heavys have a hull mounted main gun or is that the B2? 

PanzerXO #17 Posted Oct 24 2019 - 16:39

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View PostRides_with_Death, on Oct 24 2019 - 09:25, said:

Dosent one of the low tier french heavys have a hull mounted main gun or is that the B2? 


There are a lot of multi-gunned low-tier tanks; 2 or 3 copies of an RU (effectively the same tank) @ Tier 4, the Lee, etc.

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Would be cool to see them make that work (rather than inventing some stupid double-barreled RU tank - the breach mechanism alone would have been a nightmare, and likely would have damaged / destroyed the turret mechanism if ever fired simultaneously)



FrontenacDuVandoo #18 Posted Oct 24 2019 - 18:14

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Why is there a suicide ledge in the south-west corner of Empire's Border?

 

Could we see shots fired from the STG 44 hanging on the side of the Tiger 1?

 

I wonder if the engine could handle all that extra ordinance flying around if machine guns were to be added. Then again, Warships can.

IS-7 has 5 machine guns mounted on it... 2 hull mounted facing front, 2 turret mounted facing back, and a coax. Dakka all around!

 

 

 

 



Rena_Dyne #19 Posted Oct 25 2019 - 00:39

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View PostFlarvin, on Oct 24 2019 - 06:05, said:


The soviets had a .50 cal, DShK. 
 

Which was mounted on tanks also. 

 

 

 

I already mentioned the DShK, and that it wouldn't get mounted on much before the later tier Russian/Chinese tanks. Since the Russian's really didn't start *mounting* it until around the IS-2. Most "coaxial" machine guns for the Russians would far more likely be the DS27/28 and DS-39, or in later eras, the SG-43 {all 7.62's} as the DShK is just too absurdly huge to fit into most tanks as far as a coaxial goes, the same reason that the US mostly used the browning M2 HMG as a Pintle mount machine gun



Gunn_Fyter #20 Posted Oct 25 2019 - 08:43

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I sincerely hope that if we are going to have double barreled tanks that their ammo consumption would also be doubled. 




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