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Poll: What was the battle result? (25 members have cast votes)

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What was the battle result? (My team kill total vs Enemy Team kill total)

  1. 0-15 (my team 0 kills, enemy 15 kills) (4 votes [16.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.00%

  2. 2-15 (my team 2 kill, enemy 15 kills) (8 votes [32.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 32.00%

  3. 5-15 (you get the idea..) (6 votes [24.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.00%

  4. 10-15 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 14-14 (draw) (2 votes [8.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.00%

  6. 15-10 (5 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

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SimplyPzB2 #1 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 06:36

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So here's a screenshot from 1 minute into the battle:

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Two things to note:

 

1)  Here is the team composition:

Skill level   Team 1   Team 2

blue               0             0

green            1             2

yellow            3             5          skilled    

orange          4             3          unskilled

red                7             5

 

2) LOOK AT THE MINI-MAP!  1 minute in and we haven't sent a single tank to the 1 line.  Lemming Train Alert!!!

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So, how did it turn out?  Was it a 0-15 blowout?  Was it a 2-15 blowout?  Was it a 5-15 blowout?  Vote your choice in the poll above.

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I will come back in a few days and post the rest of the battle/outcome.

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Best of luck!

 


Edited by SimplyPzB2, Oct 26 2019 - 07:41.


JakeTheMystic #2 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 08:45

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Hahaha, you think yellow players are "skilled" 

 

It's gotta be at least 5-15 but worst case 2-15 simply because their Panther has at least 2 brain cells and should be able to basically 1v4 your top tier heavy/meds at the top of the list. 

 

 



Firemoth #3 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 09:49

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lets play a game.

 

i will give you all the bacon if you stop posting.



Bill_Nye_the_RussianSpy #4 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 09:53

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View PostSimplyPzB2, on Oct 22 2019 - 22:36, said:

 

 

I will come back in a few days and post the rest of the battle/outcome.

 

 

Please dont...



Tolos #5 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 10:51

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Trying to work out how this is in any way the MM's fault. But I'm sure budha will manage to blame it anyways. 

MissCreant #6 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 13:41

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Is this really going to be your second to the last one?  I clicked on the thread to see if you used 'penultimate' correctly.  :)

GeorgePreddy #7 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 15:26

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Looks like he's down to using a 1 battle sample size, which means that ANY POSSIBLE result is credible.

 

Therefore, there is no point to this thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



wganz_87 #8 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 16:39

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View PostSimplyPzB2, on Oct 22 2019 - 23:36, said:

2) LOOK AT THE MINI-MAP!  1 minute in and we haven't sent a single tank to the 1 line.  Lemming Train Alert!!!

 

Given that scenario, what incentive is there for a single player to break off and get over run on the 1 line? 

 

 



gmotoman #9 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 17:11

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Quite simply in my experience....
As long as everyone(minimum of 12) lemming and they DO NOT STOP THE PUSH I do about 50/50 in wins/losses.

But for example if the lemming train stops midway always a loss in my experience.

spud_tuber #10 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 17:21

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View Postwganz_87, on Oct 23 2019 - 09:39, said:

 

Given that scenario, what incentive is there for a single player to break off and get over run on the 1 line? 

 

 

Very little.   Instead, butcher them from camo as they try to cross from the 1 line to your cap.  OP is in the perfect tank to do that, as well.



Copacetic #11 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 23:41

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View PostGeorgePreddy, on Oct 23 2019 - 15:26, said:

Looks like he's down to using a 1 battle sample size, which means that ANY POSSIBLE result is credible.

 

Therefore, there is no point to this thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ahaha nice



Vulcan_Spectre #12 Posted Oct 23 2019 - 23:51

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Poll invalid: no bacon option

 

If you really care about the 1 line, go there lmbo



SimplyPzB2 #13 Posted Oct 26 2019 - 07:32

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Voting at time of results posting:

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What was the battle result? (My team kill total vs Enemy Team kill total)

  1. 0-15 (my team 0 kills, enemy 15 kills) (2 votes [13.33%])

     

  2. 2-15 (my team 2 kill, enemy 15 kills) (6 votes [40.00%])

     

  3. 5-15 (you get the idea..) (2 votes [13.33%])

     

  4. 10-15 (0 votes [0.00%])

     

  5. 14-14 (draw) (1 vote [6.67%])

     

  6. 15-10 (4 votes [26.67%])  (winners!)

     

 Results:

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1 Minute in: No one, I say no one went west/1 line. This is what happens when you have 7 red tomatoes on your team AND 4 of them are all your top tanks. The very textbook definition of "Lemming Train".

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3 Minutes in: So the enemy was a little slow to push the 1 line, so I had gone 9 line to see if I could help the lemmings win that flank. Managed to get in 1 shot of damage before the enemy showed up on the A line, way way on the A line (almost at cap circle, thanks no spotters on A line). Time to hustle back...

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3:30 Minutes in: Amazing enough, we are tied on kills. The Lemmings, by force of shear numbers are actually winning 9 line/city. But note the hp pool, we are still down over 2,000 hp.  The hp pool is typically pretty accurate indication of how the battle is really playing out, more so than number of kills. (you only get the hp pool with xvm, why?  I have no idea why wg doesn't make this feature a standard).

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5:30 Minutes in: Whaaaaat?! No really, what happened?! How are we winning this. As it turns out, the enemy had a free pass up the 9 line (we didn't even have anyone in a position to spot). But they came at us in 1x1 fashion. Well, the e25 and pudel pushed together. You can see in previous shot, I was camping back of our base behind some bushes, but the e25 and pudel rushed cap. But instead of shooting a me, they rushed the arty at our base. I simply rushed past them. Which lit them for our hellcat to snipe them hard. Then the e25 tried to bolt to city (to chase another arty), and I was able to take him down to 1 hp. The arty (or maybe the hellcat) finished him off). After that I rushed our cap and took out the pudel. It was a mop up after that.  (Hot tip, always kill the enemy that is most likely to kill you first, then go get arty...)

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Note the hellcat's location on the mini-map. It was the first time the whole game anyone on our team crossed the 4 line. (He was looking for the ikv, the last tank alive). - I would have lost a LOT of money had I been asked to bed on this battle. I mean not only did we have way more reds, we had fewer greens and yellows as well, AND leaving an entire flank wide open almost always means a loss. - Never quit I guess....

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I bet you all thought this was going to be a rant about sbmm.  ha, gotcha!

 

 

 



SimplyPzB2 #14 Posted Oct 26 2019 - 07:38

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View PostGeorgePreddy, on Oct 23 2019 - 15:26, said:

Looks like he's down to using a 1 battle sample size, which means that ANY POSSIBLE result is credible.

 

Therefore, there is no point to this thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Funny, when I'm at Costco and I taste one of those tiny small food samples, it's 100% correct is letting me know if I like the food.

View PostVulcan_Spectre, on Oct 23 2019 - 23:51, said:

Poll invalid: no bacon option

 

If you really care about the 1 line, go there lmbo


Never go to a flank solo.  You will get overrun easily and die quick and stupid.  

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View Postspud_tuber, on Oct 23 2019 - 17:21, said:

Very little.   Instead, butcher them from camo as they try to cross from the 1 line to your cap.  OP is in the perfect tank to do that, as well.


Spud nails it....

View Postwganz_87, on Oct 23 2019 - 16:39, said:

 

Given that scenario, what incentive is there for a single player to break off and get over run on the 1 line? 

 

 


My point was a more skilled team would have sent 3-4 tanks to hold that flank.  That my team was very unskilled made it unshocking that we didn't send anyone...

View PostTolos, on Oct 23 2019 - 10:51, said:

Trying to work out how this is in any way the MM's fault. But I'm sure budha will manage to blame it anyways. 


wrong.... 

View PostJakeTheMystic, on Oct 23 2019 - 08:45, said:

Hahaha, you think yellow players are "skilled" 

 

It's gotta be at least 5-15 but worst case 2-15 simply because their Panther has at least 2 brain cells and should be able to basically 1v4 your top tier heavy/meds at the top of the list. 

 

 


I have found yellow players to be competent.  Not great, no super duper, but generally they don't suicide scout, or camp the back of the map.  Orange and red however, they are consistently bad...

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(Should note, I don't hold it again new or casual players that they are bad.  Play how you want is my motto.  Glad they are here, we need the player base.  BUT, I do have a problem when a game mechanic stacks significantly more of them on one team).



Firemoth #15 Posted Oct 26 2019 - 08:34

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TL : DR

please stop.


Edited by Firemoth, Oct 26 2019 - 08:34.


Vulcan_Spectre #16 Posted Oct 26 2019 - 14:20

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View PostSimplyPzB2, on Oct 26 2019 - 01:38, said:

I have found yellow players to be competent.  Not great, no super duper, but generally they don't suicide scout, or camp the back of the map.  Orange and red however, they are consistently bad...

I only agree with you on this part, yellow players aren't good, they just know how to play (or do stupid things which make em yellow (me))



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Some more tips.

Drive to the enemy HP, not their cap, and certainly not 1 by 1.

Win your flank, go back and defend your cap rather than bring the red campers into the game.

Block Minsk so you don't have to deal with either of the corridors with chokepoints so narrow only 1 tank fits through at a time.

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View Postspud_tuber, on Oct 26 2019 - 07:47, said:

Some more tips.

Drive to the enemy HP, not their cap, and certainly not 1 by 1.

Win your flank, go back and defend your cap rather than bring the red campers into the game.

Block Minsk so you don't have to deal with either of the corridors with chokepoints so narrow only 1 tank fits through at a time.

If only i could but i used my block on Mines. I also hate how loud and obnoxious Minsk is a solid minute of jets and helicopters assaulting my ears.



JakeTheMystic #19 Posted Oct 26 2019 - 22:44

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View PostSimplyPzB2, on Oct 25 2019 - 21:38, said:


Funny, when I'm at Costco and I taste one of those tiny small food samples, it's 100% correct is letting me know if I like the food.

 

 

You're comparing 2 different things here. 

 

When given the start of a scenario, like: "Timmy and Jimmy approach each other. What happens?" It's a completely subjective topic that could be argued in any way. Maybe they just chat about their favorite movie, they could fight each other, they could experience love at first sight and make out. Because we don't know their backstory or the result, then anything goes. 

 

At costco when you are given a sample, you know what it is, what to compare it to. If they give you a piece of hot dog and you think "yup, it takes like a hot dog" because you already had that expectation. On the other hand if you have no idea what its supposed to be (lets just not hope its laxatives) then now you know what that one specific brand of thing tastes like, but that doesn't mean it tastes like any other thing, as it could be unique (like a vegan hot dog.. yuck). 

 

What you gave us here is an image that could be subjective to literally anything, and then you made a poll about it. With your negative negative tone (and there must have been a reason for the post) it would be safe to assume that you were ranting about a loss, most likely a steamroll. Based on the picture alone, 1 still frame, it means nothing since literally anything could happen. The enemy could have had 15 tanks drown themselves and we wouldn't know since we can't see the result. 



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View PostSimplyPzB2, on Oct 26 2019 - 07:32, said:

I bet you all thought this was going to be a rant about sbmm.  ha, gotcha!

 

They had us in the first half not gonna lie, so my answer was 3-15, but apparently both teams were just as bad which cancels eachother out, nice? but i guarantee you OP if the enemy had 3-4 top tier good players they would've mopped the floor with your team.






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