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Poll: feelings about the t95/chieftain (63 members have cast votes)

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how broken is t95/chieftain?

  1. broken at all (6 votes [9.52%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

  2. broken but not enough (2 votes [3.17%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.17%

  3. just broken (27 votes [42.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 42.86%

  4. is easy to play (4 votes [6.35%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.35%

  5. the t95/chieftain must be in tier XI (10 votes [15.87%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 15.87%

  6. the t95/chierftain must play only on special battles (14 votes [22.22%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

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vandergrass #1 Posted Nov 12 2019 - 19:04

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after 30 battles with the obj, 277 i see how one single t95/chieftain can hold a 2 heavys, 2 TD´s, and 1 medium, without any kind of help, and even that, after sweep the floor with us, had enogh munition for kill 3 tanks with full HP.

or in the worst battles platoons just go and drowned becuse is more faster than try to take down a t95/chieftain.

i ask the question is to easy to play the chieftain?? or just is becouse the "skill of the player"



Trimby99 #2 Posted Nov 12 2019 - 19:09

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An S Conq could have done the same thing.

Vulcan_Spectre #3 Posted Nov 12 2019 - 19:10

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I feel like the super conq is as good if not better, it has better dpm, better hull armor, both tanks have insane turrets. Both tanks are unbalanced

Tolos #4 Posted Nov 12 2019 - 19:12

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View Postvandergrass, on Nov 12 2019 - 18:04, said:

after 30 battles with the obj, 277 i see how one single t95/chieftain can hold a 2 heavys, 2 TD´s, and 1 medium, without any kind of help, and even that, after sweep the floor with us, had enogh munition for kill 3 tanks with full HP.

or in the worst battles platoons just go and drowned becuse is more faster than try to take down a t95/chieftain.

i ask the question is to easy to play the chieftain?? or just is becouse the "skill of the player"

 

If one chief managed to take down 5 of you, that tells us more about how bad the 5 players was rather than how good the chief is. 



Cowcat137 #5 Posted Nov 12 2019 - 19:16

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No matter what time of day or night, there's always a guy waiting to pounce with that :"you're just a poor player" routine. :facepalm: 

Krupp_Sabot #6 Posted Nov 12 2019 - 19:19

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View Postvandergrass, on Nov 12 2019 - 11:04, said:

after 30 battles with the obj, 277 i see how one single t95/chieftain can hold a 2 heavys, 2 TD´s, and 1 medium, without any kind of help, and even that, after sweep the floor with us, had enogh munition for kill 3 tanks with full HP.

or in the worst battles platoons just go and drowned because is more faster than try to take down a t95/chieftain.

i ask the question is to easy to play the chieftain?? or just is because the "skill of the player"

Its def too strong but in a 5v1 the smart strat is to rush the guy. Fighting hull down tanks in their element is a huge mistake and fighting on the enemies on their terms in general is really dumb.



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View PostCowcat137, on Nov 12 2019 - 18:16, said:

No matter what time of day or night, there's always a guy waiting to pounce with that :"you're just a poor player" routine. :facepalm: 

 

Whine if you like. Fact is if ONE tank is holding off FIVE guys, then the ONE guy kills those FIVE, it says more about the players the ONE tank is facing more than how balanced/unbalanced a tank is. You might not like it, but it's an undeniable fact. 



ThePigSheFlies #8 Posted Nov 12 2019 - 19:25

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View PostCowcat137, on Nov 12 2019 - 13:16, said:

No matter what time of day or night, there's always a guy waiting to pounce with that :"you're just a poor player" routine. :facepalm: 

 

there's not a tank in the game that can hold off 5 vs 1 equal tiered tanks, unless the 5 are super passive (and bad)



Vulcan_Spectre #9 Posted Nov 12 2019 - 19:32

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View PostThePigSheFlies, on Nov 12 2019 - 13:25, said:

 

there's not a tank in the game that can hold off 5 vs 1 equal tiered tanks, unless the 5 are super passive (and bad)

My t95, 5 artys



coconut2011 #10 Posted Nov 12 2019 - 19:41

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View PostVulcan_Spectre, on Nov 12 2019 - 10:10, said:

I feel like the super conq is as good if not better, it has better dpm, better hull armor, both tanks have insane turrets. Both tanks are unbalanced

 

The problem of SuperConqueror is the lack of mobility, which is quite critical on a lot of maps.



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View Postvandergrass, on Nov 12 2019 - 12:04, said:

after 30 battles with the obj, 277 i see how one single t95/chieftain can hold a 2 heavys, 2 TD´s, and 1 medium, without any kind of help, and even that, after sweep the floor with us, had enogh munition for kill 3 tanks with full HP.

or in the worst battles platoons just go and drowned becuse is more faster than try to take down a t95/chieftain.

i ask the question is to easy to play the chieftain?? or just is becouse the "skill of the player"


Puleeeeese give us a break.  The Chieftan is OP?  You should be concentrating on the 279e instead as it is much more able to do just that and more.  When you hear CC's on the EU and NA server bragging about how they can just sit out in the open, with the 279, and hold an area?  Your wasting your time.



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View Postvandergrass, on Nov 12 2019 - 13:04, said:

after 30 battles with the obj, 277 i see how one single t95/chieftain can hold a 2 heavys, 2 TD´s, and 1 medium, without any kind of help, and even that, after sweep the floor with us, had enogh munition for kill 3 tanks with full HP.

or in the worst battles platoons just go and drowned becuse is more faster than try to take down a t95/chieftain.

i ask the question is to easy to play the chieftain?? or just is becouse the "skill of the player"


 Like a lot of people already have said if One tank can hold off 5 players then its obviously the 5 players.  Even if the Chieftan had support from 1 TD or a Arty then it still should have been easy to kill the Chief by rushing, Rather than letting him farm.   A S.Conq and a Badger probably could have done the same thing, Even other tanks.

 

Taking that all out of the scenario, A Chieftan is just a more lower profile and Slightly faster S.Conq.  If you faced a S.Conq before you have a slight chance of penning it under the gun and turret ring, But most of all you will either wait for a side shot or Relocate somewhere else.  Same goes if you find a Kranvagan or a Badger, You dont fight it frontally, you just relocate. 

 

I cant say a Chieftan is OP, I think its just the fact that its a Clan Reward tank and when you see one its just a reaction to already assume its OP, especially since good players have it to begin with. If you see a Chieftan hull down and winning its OP and broken, If a S.Conq is doing the exact same thing it was just a bad team.  



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View PostVulcan_Spectre, on Nov 12 2019 - 13:32, said:

My t95, 5 artys

 

sounds like an amazing training room, because that hasn't happened in pubs in years...



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If one tank is holding off five tanks then the five tankers are the problem.

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View Postvandergrass, on Nov 12 2019 - 19:04, said:

 i see how one single t95/chieftain can hold a 2 heavys, 2 TD´s, and 1 medium,

Learn to flank.

PapioTitan #16 Posted Nov 12 2019 - 20:18

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Five COORDINATED tanks.....no problem. Five of the "no, you go first...no, you go...no yall go, I need to survive" type tanks....good luck with that.

Edited by PapioTitan, Nov 12 2019 - 20:18.


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I suck in all heavys...lowest win rate of any tank class, I can tell you it's not the tank it's the tanker. I have the chief and the SC, good tanks no magic though. They dont make a stinker any better.

The_Wreckege #18 Posted Nov 12 2019 - 20:40

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279e > chieftain

Vulcan_Spectre #19 Posted Nov 12 2019 - 21:20

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View PostThePigSheFlies, on Nov 12 2019 - 13:44, said:

 

sounds like an amazing training room, because that hasn't happened in pubs in years...


:( facts



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    Major

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Broken Poll.  Chieftan is fine.  Biggest problem tanks at the moment are 279e and maybe still the 268 v4





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