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Tao_Te_Tomato #1 Posted Dec 02 2019 - 05:59

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This was a somewhat sad experience on Murovanka.  I know some of y'all have had worse, but this has to rank pretty high:

 


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_The_Animal_ #2 Posted Dec 02 2019 - 06:21

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It's been all weekend.  15-3 games and worse all weekend.  It's like half the team are bots or just no clue what to do.  Just had an encounter on lakeville.  Not one person on my team went to the cap.  Another game, it took all 4 top tiers 2 min to even leave spawn.  Very rarely do we get a good game.  I'm prob going to go away another couple months and see if it's any better when I get back.  It's not worth me wasting my time just to have bad game after bad game.  Yes the wins are bad too.  The game is over so fast and the damage is so spread out that you don't get much, especially if you're in a slow moving tank.

tod914 #3 Posted Dec 02 2019 - 06:24

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First day of the marathon was brutally bad.  Today, a 40.82% wr.  Winning!

Panzerkind #4 Posted Dec 02 2019 - 06:50

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That's what you get for playing arty

heavymetal1967 #5 Posted Dec 02 2019 - 07:03

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View Posttod914, on Dec 02 2019 - 01:24, said:

First day of the marathon was brutally bad.  Today, a 40.82% wr.  Winning!

 

Spoiler

 



Gothraul #6 Posted Dec 02 2019 - 07:17

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Broke close to even but today has been one of the most brutal days in probably years, had one team at tier 8 that had 11 zero damage bots on it and only 4 people myself included had win rates over 46%. I hope the business week is more normal.

Mr_BushyBeard #7 Posted Dec 02 2019 - 11:51

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I feel ya. These last two weekends have been brutal, and I didn't help. I don't know what the heck I was doing but I had to really question even my own play. I went total potato. :harp:

ULTRADERECHA #8 Posted Dec 02 2019 - 14:34

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Disgusting!

AllieOop2 #9 Posted Dec 02 2019 - 15:37

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So who are the people that had the 56% win rate this week end. Because we only hear from the 44% crowd. How did they manage in this "horrible" game to over come the odds?

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View PostAllieOop2, on Dec 02 2019 - 08:37, said:

So who are the people that had the 56% win rate this week end. Because we only hear from the 44% crowd. How did they manage in this "horrible" game to over come the odds?

I managed closer to 60% over the weekend at T9-10.  Admittedly, I was carried to some of those wins, as I had difficulty getting those top damage or top XP missions done.  Though, I did manage top damage several times when needing top XP and vice versa. 

 

Should I be here whining because I was unable to complete missions because my teams were too good? After all, proportionally, I had a higher mission success rate on losing battles. 



Mojo_Riesing #11 Posted Dec 02 2019 - 16:47

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Really?  Whatever.  Solution: Play another match.  Time to move along, nothing to see here.

toesave #12 Posted Dec 02 2019 - 17:01

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bottom line.. would any of this matter, if winning or losing meant nothing.. if our only real concern was what we did personally …  damage done/tanks killed..  it would end all most all the frustration.  it seems it really does not matter what you do now you get judged by what the other 14 did or did not do...

 

I was lucky I had a decent weekend for me...  I camped and only played in the last half of the battles..  as sad as that is I did way better then normal... was that me or the team...



Mojo_Riesing #13 Posted Dec 02 2019 - 17:07

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View Posttoesave, on Dec 02 2019 - 08:01, said:

bottom line.. would any of this matter, if winning or losing meant nothing.. if our only real concern was what we did personally …  damage done/tanks killed..  it would end all most all the frustration.  it seems it really does not matter what you do now you get judged by what the other 14 did or did not do...

 

I was lucky I had a decent weekend for me...  I camped and only played in the last half of the battles..  as sad as that is I did way better then normal... was that me or the team...

 

Agreed. One of the major problems of current statistical measures is that "winning" as part of a 15v15 random team selection is included as part of making a measure of individual performance.  Yes it is something that should matter somehow, somewhere, but NOT as any players performance individually.  Nor should it matter that you are driving a higher tier tank, nor one by virtue of that, able to sling more damage per shot.  



Tao_Te_Tomato #14 Posted Dec 02 2019 - 17:18

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View PostPanzerkind, on Dec 02 2019 - 06:50, said:

That's what you get for playing arty

 

Ouch.  :(

 

So 8 players just decided that since I'm playing arty, they were going to do nothing?

 

Dang, that's worse than just getting spit on by RNGeezus!!!

 

View PostAllieOop2, on Dec 02 2019 - 15:37, said:

So who are the people that had the 56% win rate this week end. Because we only hear from the 44% crowd. How did they manage in this "horrible" game to over come the odds?

 

I'll have to look when I get home, but I *think* I was in that range, give or take a percentage point or two.  Other than the wutthehey??? match that generated this whine thread it was not a bad gaming weekend for me.

 

View PostMojo_Riesing, on Dec 02 2019 - 16:47, said:

Really?  Whatever.  Solution: Play another match.  Time to move along, nothing to see here.

 

Nothing to see and yet you looked.  AND posted a second time.  :P

 

View PostMojo_Riesing, on Dec 02 2019 - 17:07, said:

 

Agreed. One of the major problems of current statistical measures is that "winning" as part of a 15v15 random team selection is included as part of making a measure of individual performance.  Yes it is something that should matter somehow, somewhere, but NOT as any players performance individually.  Nor should it matter that you are driving a higher tier tank, nor one by virtue of that, able to sling more damage per shot.  

 

Maybe a more interesting measurement would be ranking the 30 players overall and scoring them that way.  Or making that part of the scoring process.



Mojo_Riesing #15 Posted Dec 02 2019 - 17:26

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View PostTao_Te_Tomato, on Dec 02 2019 - 08:18, said:

Nothing to see and yet you looked.  AND posted a second time.  :P

 

Maybe a more interesting measurement would be ranking the 30 players overall and scoring them that way.  Or making that part of the scoring process.

 

Yes, i looked, and actually read it too.  The second post was on a really different kind of topic from a subsequent post that popped up



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Had one game where of the 10 tier 10's in the game only one did ANY damage at all and he was a light tank, five only fired one shot. Our top damage player was a T-44 then me in my 257 and then a Lynx. We won at least.

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View PostI_QQ_4_U, on Dec 02 2019 - 17:32, said:

Had one game where of the 10 tier 10's in the game only one did ANY damage at all and he was a light tank, five only fired one shot. Our top damage player was a T-44 then me in my 257 and then a Lynx. We won at least.

 

What I don't understand is that I watched them from that Arty On A Cloud viewpoint.  They all seemed to be engaged - it wasn't like they were all parked and AFK or anything.



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View Post_The_Animal_, on Dec 02 2019 - 00:21, said:

It's been all weekend.  15-3 games and worse all weekend.  It's like half the team are bots or just no clue what to do.  Just had an encounter on lakeville.  Not one person on my team went to the cap.  Another game, it took all 4 top tiers 2 min to even leave spawn.  Very rarely do we get a good game.  I'm prob going to go away another couple months and see if it's any better when I get back.  It's not worth me wasting my time just to have bad game after bad game.  Yes the wins are bad too.  The game is over so fast and the damage is so spread out that you don't get much, especially if you're in a slow moving tank.

It's truly funny to see people whine about others being dumb and they are too dumb to turn off the other modes that the dumb people ruin. If you insist on playing the dumb modes don't be surprised. Best move ever was turning off those dumb modes. 



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I did have one game where I was in my Grille (T5 SPG DE) and made a whopping 368 HP of damage.  I had the second highest score on the team.  The guy above me netted something like 657 HP.  We had, I believe, NINE zero damage folks at the bottom of the list.  I was like, okay, that happened,  Then I saw the battle results and just laughed my tail feathers off!  Oh --- My --- GAWD that was awful.  I was thinking, I played like total crap and I came out 2nd?  Really?

 

Ouch.

 

It happens.

 

 

Those kinds of games, especially on one of those 'bad weekend' streaks, give me a perspective shift that reminds me, it IS just a game.  That allows me to laugh about it.

 

 

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View PostAllieOop2, on Dec 02 2019 - 15:37, said:

So who are the people that had the 56% win rate this week end. Because we only hear from the 44% crowd. How did they manage in this "horrible" game to over come the odds?

 

Pure unadulterated luck, lol.

 

Actually, while luck always plays a part, it was my hard work starting to pay off. I decided to concentrate on one class of tank at a time, and for the last few months it has been the American SPGs. I had some set backs, like a 16 game losing streak in the M12 a couple months ago, but I have been steadily improving. In November I was finally able to pull my win rate up to 45%. Doesn't sound that impressive, until you find out that I had a 51.90% win rate over 237 battles in November and brought my win rate in the M40/M43 up to 53.51% with an average damage per battle of 909. Not all of those battles were in an SPG, I played around 90 games in light, medium, and heavy tanks. The next class of tanks I am going to concentrate on are heavy tanks. I want to get at least 200 games each in my KV-1, six tier 6 heavies, and three tier 7 heavies before I move on to tank destroyers. I want to get good, or at least better, with all classes of tanks.

 

I enjoyed the M40/M43 so much that it is going into my favorites which I will play regularly.







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