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24_inch_pythons #1 Posted Dec 08 2019 - 01:51

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JakeTheMystic #2 Posted Dec 08 2019 - 02:10

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Ranked should be tech tree tanks only, the same goes for any competitive format. I'm tired of playing against clans in advances and clan wars who thing 15 279e iS tHe bEsT mEtA

 

At the very least WG could try to balance reward tanks so they are unique and good in their own way, not just better in every way than their tech tree counterparts. 



F4U_wingman #3 Posted Dec 08 2019 - 02:20

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View PostJakeTheMystic, on Dec 07 2019 - 17:10, said:

Ranked should be tech tree tanks only, the same goes for any competitive format. I'm tired of playing against clans in advances and clan wars who thing 15 279e iS tHe bEsT mEtA

 

At the very least WG could try to balance reward tanks so they are unique and good in their own way, not just better in every way than their tech tree counterparts. 


Where is the fun in that? all equal I mean.. the same... but wait... we have auto-loaders... and soon … double barrel ,... 



HOTA_CHATON #4 Posted Dec 08 2019 - 02:22

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View PostJakeTheMystic, on Dec 07 2019 - 19:10, said:

Ranked should be tech tree tanks only, the same goes for any competitive format. I'm tired of playing against clans in advances and clan wars who thing 15 279e iS tHe bEsT mEtA

 

At the very least WG could try to balance reward tanks so they are unique and good in their own way, not just better in every way than their tech tree counterparts. 


I agree Jake.  Get the OP special tanks out of the action.



F4U_wingman #5 Posted Dec 08 2019 - 02:41

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View PostHOTA_CHATON, on Dec 07 2019 - 17:22, said:


I agree Jake.  Get the OP special tanks out of the action.


Nice idea... so then only the players that have the same tanks are in the same battle... The point made in the video... not all people have say a Obj 430U or say a WZ111-5a

tech tree tanks or any other tank like campaign, reward, or bought … taken to the limits



enya1ius #6 Posted Dec 08 2019 - 03:01

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View PostF4U_wingman, on Dec 08 2019 - 01:41, said:


Nice idea... so then only the players that have the same tanks are in the same battle... The point made in the video... not all people have say a Obj 430U or say a WZ111-5a

but with those tanks, everyone CAN get them. that is the point



F4U_wingman #7 Posted Dec 08 2019 - 03:06

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View Postenya1ius, on Dec 07 2019 - 18:01, said:

but with those tanks, everyone CAN get them. that is the point

I added this ...

tech tree tanks or any other tanks like campaign, reward, or bought … taken to the limits is the same idea made in the video...

With skill and time come the tanks you have to play with,... another point made in the video was some accounts are being played by someone else other than the owner



Moridin_707 #8 Posted Dec 08 2019 - 03:16

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If you really want to test player and group skill, then any competitive battle should be a battle between tanks you are put in at the time of battle.

 

Otherwise its just a matter of money like any other competitive event. 

The same goes for tournaments. Getting pushed around by CW reward tanks is trash.


Edited by Moridin_707, Dec 08 2019 - 03:17.


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I completely agree, especially when he talked about Ranked battles encouraging selfish play over teamwork

LastRemnant #10 Posted Dec 08 2019 - 04:43

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View Post24_inch_pythons, on Dec 08 2019 - 00:51, said:

 

He won't say it but ranked battles are p2w:coin: Only someone that is flush with money would be able to get multiple OP tanks with gold shots and premium stuff to gain chevrons :justwait: It doesn't matter how good you are if the other guy just has to point and shoot pen you all the time :arta:  Also basically ranked battles everyone is your enemy including your own team :trollface: 


Edited by LastRemnant, Dec 08 2019 - 04:44.


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TLDR waaah Im a pubstar I hate clan tanks

Imperator_____ #12 Posted Dec 08 2019 - 04:57

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The only thing wrong with ranked battles is it's way too easy to rank up with arty. Hate to break it to you but if you can't rank up in a tech tree tank you won't in a chieftain or 279 either, you're just bad. 



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The main issue of the ranked battle is that it puts a lot of value in mobility and some armor.

 

If you drive any slow tanks, say Super Conqueror, you will be thrown under the bus frequently.  The thing is, you may think that you have 5 people behind you supporting you while you are on the frontline, that 5 people with mobility will throw you under the bus the second they see the battle is in stalemate.  So 15 seconds later, you suddenly find yourself alone against 3-4 tanks.  Even in winning battles, they just do not have the mobility to get the damage / kills.

 

The OP tanks listed by QB all have great combination of speed and armor.  In winning battles, these tanks can rush in to take these damage and kills.  In losing battles, they have the mobility to relocate and bounce some shots to survive longer.  T95 further has great hulldown capability that they are just godly in some positions.  Slow tanks like Super Conqueror may have the armor in the same position, but they just do not have the mobility to get there.  The racing to critical position nature of WOT makes the combination of armor and mobility an extremely valuable.  Most tech tree tanks basically trade off one for the other.

 


Edited by coconut2011, Dec 08 2019 - 06:32.


JakeTheMystic #14 Posted Dec 08 2019 - 06:58

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View PostDas_Junka, on Dec 07 2019 - 18:57, said:

The only thing wrong with ranked battles is it's way too easy to rank up with arty. Hate to break it to you but if you can't rank up in a tech tree tank you won't in a chieftain or 279 either, you're just bad. 

 

In previous seasons I had no problem doing it in the IS-7, both the beta and season 1 were actually pretty interesting. Starting with the release of the Chieftain and with how many green bois have cheated their way to a 279e, you're putting yourself at an automatic disadvantage by playing anything that isn't a reward tank. 

 

The point isn't how good or bad a player is, is supposed to be about the balance of the mode. Ranked along with advances, clan wars, and tournaments are being completely ruined by the horrible imbalance in the game. 



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He way crying pretty hard.  Poor baby didn't make top league.  And oh no, some players figured out how to game the game.  Image that, wait I can: gold ammo, unicum toons, op premium tanks, 7 skilled crews, advanced equipment, bond enhancements...  Like the very best players don't stack the odds in their favor all the time....

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Personally I thought they way WG did this last round of ranked was fairly balanced in terms of how you could keep your place on the ladder without too much trouble...



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View PostJakeTheMystic, on Dec 08 2019 - 06:58, said:

 

In previous seasons I had no problem doing it in the IS-7, both the beta and season 1 were actually pretty interesting. Starting with the release of the Chieftain and with how many green bois have cheated their way to a 279e, you're putting yourself at an automatic disadvantage by playing anything that isn't a reward tank. 

 

The point isn't how good or bad a player is, is supposed to be about the balance of the mode. Ranked along with advances, clan wars, and tournaments are being completely ruined by the horrible imbalance in the game. 

 

10+ 279 (e)s isnt meta in EU advances because people in top clans there aren't as bad and can deal with it. Yeah the gun/DPM needs a nerf but the armor isn't that hard to deal with if you have more than a few brain cells, and in a situation where its angled up relative to you just dont trade with it... EZ. It's a slow tank, it can't flank quickly.

 

Chieftain is great until you get focused by arty, then have fun getting your roof penned. Personally I got more chevrons on average playing an EBR 105 and that's a tech tree tank.

 

Not to mention arty being extremely easy ranking up in... that one forum troll everyone knows got to gold league playing only arty despite the fact he would be garbage in any other class.

 

So what's the issue? QB is a streamer who has to pander to his audience, on top of that he is a pubstar, so of course it's easy to cry about reward tanks.



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I quite enjoyed ranked. The last two divisions felt like how tier 10 mm ought to be. It didn't seem to me like there were too many OP tanks, I actually remember remarking to myself that I was surprised to see such a variety of tanks...

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View PostKillnU_, on Dec 08 2019 - 08:15, said:

I quite enjoyed ranked. The last two divisions felt like how tier 10 mm ought to be. It didn't seem to me like there were too many OP tanks, I actually remember remarking to myself that I was surprised to see such a variety of tanks...

 

Yeah I had a blast as well, no BS of a trash platoon matched against a unicum toon, no 3 arty, most of the bad players flushed out. It was the most fun I've had outside of strongholds/clan wars in a long time.



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Mr Clickbaby will stir whatever pot that gets him his click quota then leave the kitchen when it gets to hot.

CaptainBussey #20 Posted Dec 08 2019 - 18:45

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View PostAllieOop2, on Dec 08 2019 - 11:38, said:

Mr Clickbaby will stir whatever pot that gets him his click quota then leave the kitchen when it gets to hot.

 

 

Why not try evaluating the substance of what he had to say instead of the messenger?







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