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Poll: Should WG Add an Israeli Tech Tree? (156 members have cast votes)

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Israeli Tech Tree?

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    Percentage of vote: 35.26%

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    Percentage of vote: 64.74%

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_tar #81 Posted Jan 06 2020 - 00:43

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View PostCardboardJedi, on Jan 05 2020 - 18:35, said:

i've brought this up once or twice myself, there is a high anti Israeli sentiment here, largely cherry picked.

 

 

...but nazi tanks are k

 

yeah, we don't want a redundant Israeli tank line when there are so many superior options in a VIDEOGAME, and that makes us all Nazi anti-Semites.... sigh



stryker105mm #82 Posted Jan 06 2020 - 01:22

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this game lost its way about ww2 era tanks, with most of the tanks in the tech tree are post Korean, like the 8-10 Russian tanks, the 8-10 swede line, 7-10 china lines, so its not a ww2 era based game any more this has not been for 2 -3 yrs 

_tar #83 Posted Jan 06 2020 - 01:26

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well, it is a WW2 era based game in terms of tech.  even if tanks are in the 1950s or 60s, they do not have smooth bore or reactive armor or other advanced tech post-ww2

 

realistic?  no.  and neither is being able to repair tracks instantaneously, it is a video game.

 

but they do keep the technology concepts to relatively at ww2 -



InquisitorSomme #84 Posted Jan 06 2020 - 01:28

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View PostCardboardJedi, on Jan 06 2020 - 00:35, said:

i've brought this up once or twice myself, there is a high anti Israeli sentiment here, largely cherry picked.

 

 

...but nazi tanks are k

 

Disagreement =/= Anti-Semitic

 

The ultimate irony being that Nazi tanks would never see Israeli tanks, but why deny your Zionist fanfiction...



Goat_Rodeo #85 Posted Jan 06 2020 - 03:13

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View PostCardboardJedi, on Jan 05 2020 - 23:35, said:

i've brought this up once or twice myself, there is a high anti Israeli sentiment here, largely cherry picked.

 

 

...but nazi tanks are k

There is a rather glaringly significant difference between anti Israeli sentiment and not wanting another tech tree chock full of clones. 



Nonamanadus #86 Posted Jan 06 2020 - 05:38

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Just put some Israeli emblems on your tanks (preferably American and British).

Lord_Magus #87 Posted Jan 06 2020 - 06:51

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View PostInquisitorSomme, on Jan 02 2020 - 20:02, said:

Israel wasn't around until after WWII, so no. 

And so what? When has WOT been limited to WW2? Better tell all those 50s, 60s and even 70s vehicles they have to leave.

 

View PostGoat_Rodeo, on Jan 06 2020 - 03:13, said:

There is a rather glaringly significant difference between anti Israeli sentiment and not wanting another tech tree chock full of clones. 

There'd be clones but there'd also be enough new tanks to be worth it. The low-tier clones seem like a "who cares?" thing, and at top tier there could be stuff like the Merkava and a 110mm armed version of the Magach 3. 


Edited by Lord_Magus, Jan 06 2020 - 06:56.


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View PostInquisitorSomme, on Jan 06 2020 - 01:28, said:

 

Disagreement =/= Anti-Semitic

 

The ultimate irony being that Nazi tanks would never see Israeli tanks, but why deny your Zionist fanfiction...

 

Of course they would, if Syrians were driving them.  So, WW2-era German-designed tanks have faced off against Israeli tanks.



_Red_Saaryn_ #89 Posted Jan 06 2020 - 09:43

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Why would we want another China nation? (As in "we don't have imagination so we will buy tanks from other nations and stick our flag on them") what we need is more original tanks from nations that actually created tanks and didn't just buy them from other nations

GDS_Starfury #90 Posted Jan 06 2020 - 14:20

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View PostInquisitorSomme, on Jan 05 2020 - 19:28, said:

 

Disagreement =/= Anti-Semitic

 

The ultimate irony being that Nazi tanks would never see Israeli tanks, but why deny your Zionist fanfiction...

 

 

then how did the IDF capture PZ4s? 

history is a cool thing.


Edited by GDS_Starfury, Jan 06 2020 - 14:21.


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View PostGDS_Starfury, on Jan 06 2020 - 05:20, said:

 

 

then how did the IDF capture PZ4s? 

history is a cool thing.

 

 

The also flew Messerchmitt ME-109 clones built by Avia, a Czech firm in the late 40's and 50's.

 



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View PostGDS_Starfury, on Jan 06 2020 - 14:20, said:

then how did the IDF capture PZ4s? 

history is a cool thing.

 

They captured them after Nazi Germany was defeated. Just like Israel was created after Nazi Germany was defeated. Just because the Arabic world managed to scrape up the leftovers does not mean the Israelis fought the Nazis. 

 

It's like people don't actually read history or anything. 



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View PostLord_Magus, on Jan 06 2020 - 05:51, said:

And so what? When has WOT been limited to WW2? Better tell all those 50s, 60s and even 70s vehicles they have to leave.

 

There'd be clones but there'd also be enough new tanks to be worth it. The low-tier clones seem like a "who cares?" thing, and at top tier there could be stuff like the Merkava and a 110mm armed version of the Magach 3. 

 

I just don’t see enough unique tanks in the Israeli tank inventory to make it work. The Merkava began development in 1970 and wasn’t fielded until like 1979. That’s getting into Leopard 2 and T-72 territory. 

While Id be just as excited as the next person to hulldown in a Merkava there’s just not enough original content as the Merkava was their first truly home grown design. 



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There will never be an Israeli Tech Tree!

think about it for a second the reason is clear as crystal



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Why are so many people in the poll against the idea of an Israeli tech tree? I mean, if WG could make tech trees for countries like Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Italy, then surely this is not out of the question. After all, the Israeli military has made use of dozens of types of armored vehicles, and WG has made national tech trees with only 11 or 12 tanks in them. I think it would be cool to be able to use their version of the M4A1 Rev. (which was based off of the Israeli modification of the Sherman) and have it be available for anyone to research. The Merkava could make an excellent tier 10 (though its armor protection and many other stats are classified, and putting a tank so modern might be unfair against all the other tier 10s, most of which are conceptual 1940s to 50s tanks.) But when have nonexistant stats ever stopped WG from making up their own stats for tanks that never existed?. (Looking at you, Soviet and Japanese lines.)

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View PostInquisitorSomme, on Jan 06 2020 - 11:08, said:

 

They captured them after Nazi Germany was defeated. Just like Israel was created after Nazi Germany was defeated. Just because the Arabic world managed to scrape up the leftovers does not mean the Israelis fought the Nazis. 

 

It's like people don't actually read history or anything. 


I never said the IDF fought nazis, just that they did fight their tanks.   reading comprehension and context.... try it.



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No. Israel is not a WW2-era nation, and all it's tanks were just refitted US/European vehicles until the Merkava series. If you want that, go play AW, Merkava is awesome there. But not in this game. I wanted to play a WW2-era armor game, and WoT is rapidly morphing into that other game. We already have absurd situations like Tigers having to fight 60's vehicles that are faster and have more firepower AND armor, not to mention a tree filled with imaginary paper tanks that never existed, never fought on a battlefield, and in some cases are technically infeasible. We don't need another copy/paste tree to satisfy your Isreali fetish. How about an Egyptian tree, or a Korean or Pakistani or Indian tree too, while we're at it?

Samuraijack #98 Posted Jan 14 2020 - 00:14

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No Israeli tech tree.

Israel was not a country until after WW2.

We do not need more clone tanks.

We need fixes to issues that have plague this game from the beginning.



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View PostInquisitorSomme, on Jan 07 2020 - 04:08, said:

 

They captured them after Nazi Germany was defeated. Just like Israel was created after Nazi Germany was defeated. Just because the Arabic world managed to scrape up the leftovers does not mean the Israelis fought the Nazis. 

 

It's like people don't actually read history or anything. 

 

Now you are rewriting what you initially stated in an attempt to obfuscate that you were wrong.

 

You stated "The ultimate irony being that Nazi tanks would never see Israeli tanks, but why deny your Zionist fanfiction..."

 

Then it was pointed out that Isreali tanks did fight against nazi tanks.

 

If you meant to say that isreali armoured crewmen never fought against tanks crewed by nazi troops then you should have said that.

 

 

 






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