Jump to content


Tech Tree Changes

Tech Tree

  • Please log in to reply
7 replies to this topic

_Silent #1 Posted Feb 14 2020 - 23:07

    First lieutenant

  • -Players-
  • 35524 battles
  • 525
  • [GROOT] GROOT
  • Member since:
    06-28-2014

I find the main problem with the new tech trees is its hard to balance tanks without messing with their stats, playing stock as bottom tier sucks, too few low tier tanks don't allow new players to learn how to play, and tier 10 balance with shells are a mess.

 

My proposal is 3 fold and will resolve many issues if implemented correctly but requires a significant overhaul of the game.

 

Part 1

 

Battle Rating

 

Yes the battle rating isn't a new idea and is used by other games but hear me out .  A battle rating would improve how easily a tank can be balanced and make it so that you aren't fighting tier 10s in your stock tier 8 mt. First there would be 25 battle ratings with quarters in between each level. yes it sounds complicated but the 25 will make sense later. So starting tier 1. The MS-1 would start with a battle rating of 1 lets say. With upgraded gun it would be 1.5 and with Special shells loaded it would be 1.75 meaning that it would run into tier 2s more often than tier 1s. 

 

Next example with a tier 8. So a poorly equipped tank like the indein-panzer lets say would start as a 7.25 battle rating meaning that stock with normal rounds it would mostly see upgraded tier 7s and elite tier 6s with special ammo. As it improved it would go to 7.5 and even 8 meaning it would see stock tier 9s and elite tier 7s with special ammo.

For a tier 8 that stock is quite good like the VK 100.1P would start at a battle rating of 8.25 meaning it would mostly see stock tier 9s and upgraded tier 8s. 

 

Using this method you could with each tank individually set with who it should fight. This would easily solve the bottom tier problem of tier 8s since any tier 8 with a low rating wouldn't see high tiers. Also this way it would be more fun to progress since grinding against tanks you can't pen would be reduced.

 

Part 2

 

Longer tech trees

 

Right now the tech trees are decent for lower tiers which is what is needed so that new players can progress and learn instead of being shot up to higher tiers. So I would propose a 25 tier model. (this is where the 25 battle ratings tie in). 

 

So why 25 because I would propose a multi era tech tree starting in WWI and going beyond the cold war.

 

The first 5 tiers would be low WWI tanks, armoured cars, and general mismatched machines designed to teach the new players the ropes though campaign styled missions. One player with a bunch of bots so that they actually have a chance to fight and make it fun instead of boring tutorials.

 

The next 5 would be interwar tanks. But to pass into this era a certain percentage of missions would need to be completed even if they research the top vehicle to prove skill. This would involve a battle tutorial, and battles with real players against bots. To move on a certain number of battles or hit percentage per battle, etc would be required to move to WWII vehicles. This way instead of having new players who can't aim or penetrate or win move on quickly to higher tiers they would have to improve to move on.

 

The next 10 tier would be strictly WWII vehicles ending in the MAUS, Pershing, T32, Panther II, IS-4, T-44-85, and similar tanks. This first would allow HTs to be heavy and the main back bone and not nerf MBTs into the ground to try to make them work. and actually allow realistic penetration values and more unique vehicles but having greater freedom. To move on in this tree would be to get to tier 5 a average win percentage over 10 battles, plus an average damage minimum over 10 battles would be required and at tier 7->8.

 

The last 5+ tiers depending would be cold war era vehicles starting with small lightly armed wheeled APCs and tanks moving up to MBTs Ending with the XM1, Leopard 2AV, Chieftain Mk 10, Ariete Protoype. This would make for more modern tanks, an entirely different game style, ATGMs, and more as well as auto cannons. To get to this a certain amount of tier 10 WWII tanks would need to be unlocked as well as battles in tier 10 vehicles. The the starting would be the BTR-80A, V-150, BRDM -2 Konkurs, etc. 

 

WWII vehicles would not see cold war and there would be no bleed into each other era.

 

Part 3

 

The ending, finally right, but Ammo. WG STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING. Ammo doesn't need to be changed like this at all. First I would suggest researchable ammo especially for higher tiers, DM13 -> DM23 -> DM33. Not only that but special round would be restricted in number and increase battle rating ( higher chance to see higher tier Tanks). This means you wouldn't get specials shells immediately and when you do it puts you up against higher tier tanks.

 

Thats all folks



GWyatt #2 Posted Feb 14 2020 - 23:36

    First lieutenant

  • -Players-
  • 5495 battles
  • 882
  • [VAN] VAN
  • Member since:
    11-23-2015
Thoughtful idea. Downside would be that you'd have to consolidate NA with EU before you could pull something like this off as there just isn't the population on NA to support your idea.

_Silent #3 Posted Feb 14 2020 - 23:38

    First lieutenant

  • -Players-
  • 35524 battles
  • 525
  • [GROOT] GROOT
  • Member since:
    06-28-2014

View PostGWyatt, on Feb 14 2020 - 22:36, said:

Thoughtful idea. Downside would be that you'd have to consolidate NA with EU before you could pull something like this off as there just isn't the population on NA to support your idea.


Bots would have to be our friend unfortunately but yes it would solve a lot of problems and make the game fun.



GeorgePreddy #4 Posted Feb 14 2020 - 23:51

    Major

  • Players
  • 14680 battles
  • 15,537
  • Member since:
    04-11-2013

You have an idea... now all you need to do is buy or develop a tank game so that you can implement it.  WoT is 99.999% unlikely to make your "dream" come true.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



01LT #5 Posted Feb 15 2020 - 05:16

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 41367 battles
  • 301
  • Member since:
    06-15-2013
Still. The game cant be balanced by changing tanks or tank tree's or adding tanks. Its so simple just make better maps that would allow all classes of tanks to be involved in each battle. Unlike how it is now where the maps separate you by tank class and dictates how you should play each map. Better maps would support team play make game fun again. No tanks in this game is OP from the side and rear. These maps though dont support that type of play they tend to keep you in front of each other and favor only the heavy tanks with best armor.

_JUMPER__1 #6 Posted Feb 15 2020 - 05:31

    Sergeant

  • -Players-
  • 29484 battles
  • 104
  • [-TNT] -TNT
  • Member since:
    05-07-2014
Prefer the old or original tech tree.Has more options and tanks.After you have played the game for years it’s fun or a good change of pace to grab some old tier1 through 4 tanks.A lot of good tanks that are underrated are being removed with new tech tree line up.Yes it is simple but perhaps to simple and may take away from the potential of the game and variety.Thats what WOT has been known for its the huge variety of tanks.Maybe have a simplified tech tree for beginners then once they research or do say 5000 battles or something rest of the tree opens up.Just an idea.

_Silent #7 Posted Feb 15 2020 - 15:53

    First lieutenant

  • -Players-
  • 35524 battles
  • 525
  • [GROOT] GROOT
  • Member since:
    06-28-2014

View Post_JUMPER__1, on Feb 15 2020 - 04:31, said:

Prefer the old or original tech tree.Has more options and tanks.After you have played the game for years it’s fun or a good change of pace to grab some old tier1 through 4 tanks.A lot of good tanks that are underrated are being removed with new tech tree line up.Yes it is simple but perhaps to simple and may take away from the potential of the game and variety.Thats what WOT has been known for its the huge variety of tanks.Maybe have a simplified tech tree for beginners then once they research or do say 5000 battles or something rest of the tree opens up.Just an idea.


Yeah my change would keep the old tree and add on to it



EnnoVk #8 Posted Feb 15 2020 - 19:32

    Private

  • -Players-
  • 24729 battles
  • 6
  • Member since:
    10-12-2011
More Tanks four the Black Market





Also tagged with Tech Tree

1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users