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Helpless #141 Posted Mar 25 2020 - 06:33

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View PostKlaatu_Nicto, on Mar 25 2020 - 05:28, said:

I need to see a dentist. Something has gone wrong with the broken tooth I had fixed a couple of years ago. Having to go out in the danger zone and have people probing around in my mouth when we're not supposed to touch our own faces - that's the kind of luck I have. :izmena:

 

 

if its just pain take some antibiotics and the pain should ease off..... then once things calm down... u can go to the dentist...

if u dont have any... call ur dentist or doctor and they can call in a prescription..... u might even be able to have it delivered....


Edited by Helpless, Mar 25 2020 - 06:38.


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NBA stars are giving back to their communities by generously donating money to arena workers affected by the NBA hiatus.
https://www.nbcsport...orkers-during-0


Elton John to host coronavirus benefit concert with Mariah Carey, Billie Eilish
Elton John will host an all-star benefit concert airing Sunday night titled Fox Presents the iHeart Living Room Concert for America. The event will feature performances by Alicia Keys, Backstreet Boys, Billie Eilish, Billie Joe Armstrong, Mariah Carey, Tim McGraw and others yet to be announced. Each singer will perform from their own homes and will be filmed with their personal video and audio equipment, to ensure the health and safety of others.
https://ew.com/tv/el...us-concert-fox/



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View PostKlaatu_Nicto, on Mar 25 2020 - 20:58, said:

NBA stars are giving back to their communities by generously donating money to arena workers affected by the NBA hiatus.
https://www.nbcsport...orkers-during-0


Elton John to host coronavirus benefit concert with Mariah Carey, Billie Eilish
Elton John will host an all-star benefit concert airing Sunday night titled Fox Presents the iHeart Living Room Concert for America. The event will feature performances by Alicia Keys, Backstreet Boys, Billie Eilish, Billie Joe Armstrong, Mariah Carey, Tim McGraw and others yet to be announced. Each singer will perform from their own homes and will be filmed with their personal video and audio equipment, to ensure the health and safety of others.
https://ew.com/tv/el...us-concert-fox/

did u take some antibiotics like i said????



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Ohio has seen the virus spread across the state by 704 cases in the last 16 days. That's an average of 44 cases everyday. 

This is the breakdown of cases in Ohio. 

704 / 16 days = 44 cases a day, on average

44 new cases every 24 hours.
22 new case every 12 hours.
11 new case every 6 hours.
5.5 new cases every 3 hours.
2.75 new cases every 1.5 hours.
(90 minutes) 
1.375 new cases every 45 minutes
0.6875 new cases every 22.5 minutes. 
0.34375 new cases every 11.25 minutes
0.171875 new cases every 5.625 minutes. 
0.085937 new cases every 2.8125 minutes. 
0.0429685 new cases every 1.40625 minutes. 
0.0085937 new cases every 0.703125 seconds. 
( 1 minute ten seconds)
0.00429685 new cases every 0.3515625 seconds.
( :30 seconds)
0.002148425 new cases every 0.17578125 seconds. 
(17.57 seconds)
0.0010742125 new cases every 0.087890625 seconds 
(8.78 seconds)
0.00053710625 new cases every 0.0439453125 seconds
(4.39 seconds)
0.000268553125 new cases every 0.02197265625 seconds 
(2.19 seconds)
0.0001342765625 new cases every 0.010986328125 seconds 
(1.09 seconds)
Notice how the same number sequences exist starting at 2.8125 minutes and :30 seconds but nowhere else? 
1 - 0.085937 new cases every 2.8125 minutes. 
2 - 0.0429685 new cases every 1.40625 minutes. 
3 - 0.0085937 new cases every 0.703125 seconds. 
( 1 minute ten seconds)
4 - 0.00429685 new cases every 0.3515625 seconds.
( :30 seconds)

This would have to be a flaw in the virus where some mechanic that is part of the replication process is running the same replication process several times for some reason. Possibly a flaw with the virus where it is having difficulty in overcoming the immunity of the cell that is trying to infect. Maybe the virus is adjusting its process of infection during the four blocks of time shown above. A similar value should be found in all other infected places on the Earth.

Don't focus on the number of deaths. Focus on finding the similar values of the first day the virus infected your nation and today's date of 3.25.2020.Break down the value based on where you live and then compare with other regions. 

Once numbering sequences such as the ones listed above have been found for each county in each state of every infected nation, there should be a very clear path to the heart of the virus itself. 

We gotta find a way to knock the tracks off this virus.


Edited by DevilDog2512, Mar 26 2020 - 00:58.


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View PostDevilDog2512, on Mar 25 2020 - 23:56, said:

Ohio has seen the virus spread across the state by 704 cases in the last 16 days. That's an average of 44 cases everyday. 

This is the breakdown of cases in Ohio. 

704 / 16 days = 44 cases a day, on average

44 new cases every 24 hours.
22 new case every 12 hours.
11 new case every 6 hours.
5.5 new cases every 3 hours.
2.75 new cases every 1.5 hours.
(90 minutes) 
1.375 new cases every 45 minutes
0.6875 new cases every 22.5 minutes. 
0.34375 new cases every 11.25 minutes
0.171875 new cases every 5.625 minutes. 
0.085937 new cases every 2.8125 minutes. 
0.0429685 new cases every 1.40625 minutes. 
0.0085937 new cases every 0.703125 seconds. 
( 1 minute ten seconds)
0.00429685 new cases every 0.3515625 seconds.
( :30 seconds)
0.002148425 new cases every 0.17578125 seconds. 
(17.57 seconds)
0.0010742125 new cases every 0.087890625 seconds 
(8.78 seconds)
0.00053710625 new cases every 0.0439453125 seconds
(4.39 seconds)
0.000268553125 new cases every 0.02197265625 seconds 
(2.19 seconds)
0.0001342765625 new cases every 0.010986328125 seconds 
(1.09 seconds)
Notice how the same number sequences exist starting at 2.8125 minutes and :30 seconds but nowhere else? 
1 - 0.085937 new cases every 2.8125 minutes. 
2 - 0.0429685 new cases every 1.40625 minutes. 
3 - 0.0085937 new cases every 0.703125 seconds. 
( 1 minute ten seconds)
4 - 0.00429685 new cases every 0.3515625 seconds.
( :30 seconds)

This would have to be a flaw in the virus where some mechanic that is part of the replication process is running the same replication process several times for some reason. Possibly a flaw with the virus where it is having difficulty in overcoming the immunity of the cell that is trying to infect. Maybe the virus is adjusting its process of infection during the four blocks of time shown above. A similar value should be found in all other infected places on the Earth.

Don't focus on the number of deaths. Focus on finding the similar values of the first day the virus infected your nation and today's date of 3.25.2020.Break down the value based on where you live and then compare with other regions. 

Once numbering sequences such as the ones listed above have been found for each county in each state of every infected nation, there should be a very clear path to the heart of the virus itself. 

We gotta find a way to knock the tracks off this virus.

tested vs infected has a huge gap...... west virginia had none.... but thats cause there was no testing......



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View PostDevilDog2512, on Mar 25 2020 - 15:56, said:

Ohio has seen the virus spread across the state by 704 cases in the last 16 days. That's an average of 44 cases everyday. 

This is the breakdown of cases in Ohio. 

704 / 16 days = 44 cases a day, on average

44 new cases every 24 hours.
22 new case every 12 hours.
11 new case every 6 hours.
5.5 new cases every 3 hours.
2.75 new cases every 1.5 hours.
(90 minutes) 
1.375 new cases every 45 minutes
0.6875 new cases every 22.5 minutes. 
0.34375 new cases every 11.25 minutes
0.171875 new cases every 5.625 minutes. 
0.085937 new cases every 2.8125 minutes. 
0.0429685 new cases every 1.40625 minutes. 
0.0085937 new cases every 0.703125 seconds. 
( 1 minute ten seconds)
0.00429685 new cases every 0.3515625 seconds.
( :30 seconds)
0.002148425 new cases every 0.17578125 seconds. 
(17.57 seconds)
0.0010742125 new cases every 0.087890625 seconds 
(8.78 seconds)
0.00053710625 new cases every 0.0439453125 seconds
(4.39 seconds)
0.000268553125 new cases every 0.02197265625 seconds 
(2.19 seconds)
0.0001342765625 new cases every 0.010986328125 seconds 
(1.09 seconds)
Notice how the same number sequences exist starting at 2.8125 minutes and :30 seconds but nowhere else? 
1 - 0.085937 new cases every 2.8125 minutes. 
2 - 0.0429685 new cases every 1.40625 minutes. 
3 - 0.0085937 new cases every 0.703125 seconds. 
( 1 minute ten seconds)
4 - 0.00429685 new cases every 0.3515625 seconds.
( :30 seconds)

This would have to be a flaw in the virus where some mechanic that is part of the replication process is running the same replication process several times for some reason. Possibly a flaw with the virus where it is having difficulty in overcoming the immunity of the cell that is trying to infect. Maybe the virus is adjusting its process of infection during the four blocks of time shown above. A similar value should be found in all other infected places on the Earth.

Don't focus on the number of deaths. Focus on finding the similar values of the first day the virus infected your nation and today's date of 3.25.2020.Break down the value based on where you live and then compare with other regions. 

Once numbering sequences such as the ones listed above have been found for each county in each state of every infected nation, there should be a very clear path to the heart of the virus itself. 

We gotta find a way to knock the tracks off this virus.

Viruses don't spread in a linear fashion.  Take New York City for example.  The number of cases are doubling every three days.  It's estimated that one asymptomatic person, merging with others without mitigation, can infect 1-3 other people on an average day.

 

Since testing is scarce, no one actually knows how many people are actually infected, chances are that the estimates are low, and as a result no one can reliably predict how fast the virus will spread.

 


Edited by iadreamer, Mar 26 2020 - 01:57.


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View Postiadreamer, on Mar 26 2020 - 00:55, said:

Viruses don't spread in a linear fashion.  Take New York City for example.  The number of cases are doubling every three days.  It's estimated that one asymptomatic person, merging with others without mitigation, can infect 1-3 other people on an average day.

 

Since testing is scarce, no one actually knows how many people are actually infected, chances are that the estimates are low, and as a result no one can reliably predict how fast the virus will spread.

 


I'm certain that you have never been to Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Warfare School either. The virus is spreading linearly. 

I suggest that all paper and coin money being used in exchange for goods, to cease immediately.

No one knows long the virus will remain alive on paper money or metal coins that someone who is infected could be jingling around in their pockets at this very moment.

Using paper and metal money allows the transfers of the virus to spread between the customer and cashier opposed to using a credit card. Once the metal or paper coin goes into the cash drawer and then redistributed to the next person allows the virus to spread exponentially.

The use of credit card machines should also be scrutinized as well due to people who are infected pressing the buttons leaving the virus behind on the buttons for the next person to become infected from as a result of using the credit card machine. Hand scanners should instead be used to scan the credit card with.

The same would hold true for ATM machines as well. 24/7 monitoring of the ATM machines should mandatory to keep those who are infected from purposely spreading the virus by coughing on the ATM.


Edited by DevilDog2512, Mar 26 2020 - 02:56.


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You guys are fighting over exponential and linear growth.  Linear functions have the same rate of growth via an additive or look like a straight line. Exponential growth is a multiplier through positive feedback and have a curved line.  C-19 has explosive expoential growth in the US.  69k reported cases means we really have about 140,000 cases.  We are looking at the inflection point probably in 10-14 days with between 10,000 and 28,000  deaths per day in this first wave.  Second wave will be in the fall.  Total US deaths between 580,000-2,300,000. Absolute disaster which will last 12-18 months. Stay at home don't go anywhere unless you absolutely must. 

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New York hospitals treating coronavirus patients with vitamin C

 

A spokesman for Northwell — which operates 23 hospitals, including Lenox Hill Hospital on Manhattan’s Upper East Side — said vitamin C was being “widely used” as a coronavirus treatment throughout the system.


https://nypost.com/2...with-vitamin-c/

 



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My problem with the tooth got better on it's own but now I have a fever of 99 degrees, soreness on the sides of my neck and my eyes feel like they are bugging out. I don't have any of the main symptoms of the coronavirus, coughing and chest pains, so I don't think that's it. Just my luck I go three decades without anything more than a mild cold and now I get sick in the middle of a pandemic. I'll wait and see how this goes for the next couple of days before I decide if I need to go to a doctor. The last thing I want to do is go in a clinic in the middle of a pandemic and find out I only have a bad cold. 

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View PostKlaatu_Nicto, on Mar 27 2020 - 23:16, said:

My problem with the tooth got better on it's own but now I have a fever of 99 degrees, soreness on the sides of my neck and my eyes feel like they are bugging out. I don't have any of the main symptoms of the coronavirus, coughing and chest pains, so I don't think that's it. Just my luck I go three decades without anything more than a mild cold and now I get sick in the middle of a pandemic. I'll wait and see how this goes for the next couple of days before I decide if I need to go to a doctor. The last thing I want to do is go in a clinic in the middle of a pandemic and find out I only have a bad cold. 

take some antibiotics........



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View PostDevilDog2512, on Mar 25 2020 - 17:54, said:


I'm certain that you have never been to Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Warfare School either. The virus is spreading linearly. 

I suggest that all paper and coin money being used in exchange for goods, to cease immediately.

No one knows long the virus will remain alive on paper money or metal coins that someone who is infected could be jingling around in their pockets at this very moment.

Using paper and metal money allows the transfers of the virus to spread between the customer and cashier opposed to using a credit card. Once the metal or paper coin goes into the cash drawer and then redistributed to the next person allows the virus to spread exponentially.

The use of credit card machines should also be scrutinized as well due to people who are infected pressing the buttons leaving the virus behind on the buttons for the next person to become infected from as a result of using the credit card machine. Hand scanners should instead be used to scan the credit card with.

The same would hold true for ATM machines as well. 24/7 monitoring of the ATM machines should mandatory to keep those who are infected from purposely spreading the virus by coughing on the ATM.


Actually, yes I've worked through these scenarios, both in my military history in a NBC team (nuclear, biological, chemical), and outside.  And NOTHING works in a linear fashion.  But DAMN, you must be right!  Of course, I'm sure you can try and prove me wrong.  The simple reality is that viruses don't spread in a linear progression as in your post, but of course, you might have different data, and every location presents different obstacles.

 

But then again, please try and prove your "facts" and tell everyone how YOU are correct.


Edited by iadreamer, Today, 02:00 AM.


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View PostHelpless, on Mar 27 2020 - 15:20, said:

take some antibiotics........

 

If I'm not feeling better tomorrow morning I'll give my dentist a call and see if he can phone in a prescription. When I called his office yesterday I got a recording. His office is closed until May but he did leave his home phone number in case of an emergency or urgent care was needed.



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View PostDevilDog2512, on Mar 26 2020 - 07:56, said:

Notice how the same number sequences exist starting at 2.8125 minutes and :30 seconds but nowhere else? 

1 - 0.085937 new cases every 2.8125 minutes. 
2 - 0.0429685 new cases every 1.40625 minutes. 
3 - 0.0085937 new cases every 0.703125 seconds. 
( 1 minute ten seconds)
4 - 0.00429685 new cases every 0.3515625 seconds.
( :30 seconds)

This would have to be a flaw in the virus where some mechanic that is part of the replication process is running the same replication process several times for some reason. Possibly a flaw with the virus where it is having difficulty in overcoming the immunity of the cell that is trying to infect. Maybe the virus is adjusting its process of infection during the four blocks of time shown above. A similar value should be found in all other infected places on the Earth.


Cool story, but your mathematics may need adjustment.

 

0.0429685 new cases every 1.40625 minutes

= 0.0429685 new cases every 84.375 seconds (1.40625 minutes)

= 0.000716142 (0.0429685 / 84.375) new cases every 1 second

= 0.000503537 (0.000716142 * 0.703125) new cases every 0.703125 seconds (to compare with your answer quoted above)

 

... so the number sequences don’t repeat at all and there is therefore no magical unlocking code to be pursued, although I wouldn’t be surprised if POTUS picked it up and ran with it.

 

...and yeah, exponential growth for viruses is how it works, not linear.
 



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One of the problems with all this is that people only think in linear terms and not logarithmic so as this thing spreads it takes more and more people over increasingly shorter periods of time. Another problem is western thinkers have much slower reaction/adjustment reactions leading to inaction and passivity until after the fact so areas where there has been little to no impact are not preparing despite there being advanced warning of what is to come. Another is that we are still in the early phases in what is only the first wave of a 12 to 18 month pandemic, for the US the first wave wont peak for another three to six weeks from now. 




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