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★ Patch 1.9 - A List of Buffs / Nerfs to Tanks [NOT HP or Profitability / Repairs] ★

1.9 Common Test Buffs Nerfs HP Rebalance T54E1 T67 American Tanks British Tanks The Scorpions Den

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omi5cron #21 Posted Mar 29 2020 - 01:23

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well this will really tick off some T67 owners. i have been telling some players about this for a few days. i know some who LIVE in the T67.they are not happy.as for me, i rarely run it these days...i still remember the days of greatness when it was the T49.i do like its ability to scout,but i digress.

Tupinambis #22 Posted Mar 29 2020 - 01:36

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View PostxxBigbacon, on Mar 29 2020 - 01:19, said:

As usual, almost all tge soviet changes are buffs

Like Hell they are. Every single Soviet tank being changed, except for the BT-2, is going to be far worse off after this patch. 



StoneTitan #23 Posted Mar 29 2020 - 01:39

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Every year they do a better and better job of driving away players.:angry:

FlocktoBeaters #24 Posted Mar 29 2020 - 02:04

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I don't understand why the change for the T54E1 from medium to heavy if they aren't going to do anything substantial except slow it down. If you weren't penning with 210 then 248 isn't likely going to pen either, so what's the point? This thing is going to get matched against other T9 heavies and it won't be able to fill the heavy tank role. The pen buff for the speed nerf isn't worth it either even if it stayed as a medium.

Edited by FlocktoBeaters, Mar 29 2020 - 02:06.


Gryphon_ #25 Posted Mar 29 2020 - 02:25

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Look at all the changes they made to the EBRs.... oh wait

Scorpiany #26 Posted Mar 29 2020 - 02:29

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View PostFlocktoBeaters, on Mar 28 2020 - 19:04, said:

I don't understand why the change for the T54E1 from medium to heavy if they aren't going to do anything substantial except slow it down. If you weren't penning with 210 then 248 isn't likely going to pen either, so what's the point? This thing is going to get matched against other T9 heavies and it won't be able to fill the heavy tank role. The pen buff for the speed nerf isn't worth it either even if it stayed as a medium.


The difference between 210 pen and 248 pen is absolutely massive. 248 allows you reliably penetrate many armor plates that 210 couldn't, not to mention you're now getting 310 APCR. This will allow the T54E1 to fight so many more tanks in frontal engagements that otherwise would be unlikely to go well for it. Even if it will get matched up against other heavies, it's just one tank in the MM. For the overall course of the battle, the pen difference is far more beneficial than the mobility.

 

The gun handling will also help, since the unreliability of the T54E1's gun both for hitting tanks and penning tanks was by far its biggest downside. That will now be far less of an issue, which is absolutely worthwhile losing top speed and some traverse. It's still going to be relatively quick to turn and have decent enough acceleration, but now will have a much more usable gun for its Tier.

 

View PostGryphon_, on Mar 28 2020 - 19:25, said:

Look at all the changes they made to the EBRs.... oh wait

 

Those darn OP British light tanks! Gotta nerf them because they're clearly breaking the game balance. What's that? An EBR 105 did a 720 barrel roll, took 4 122mm shells to its wheels and then snap-shotted a Conqueror for 500 damage, all without taking a single hit point of damage in return? Nah, that's perfectly fine. But did you see that Crusader man? It was able to kill an M3 Lee one time in a fight, we gotta nerf it!


Edited by Scorpiany, Mar 29 2020 - 02:31.


Peak_Bagger #27 Posted Mar 29 2020 - 02:54

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This is such an awesome summary, Scorpiany, thanks for taking the time! I've already referred to it a few times. I just picked up the A-20 based on this, figuring it will play like the T-50 once it's moved up. And I suspect I'll be dumping the VK 30.01P, Covenanter and Cruiser II once the changes go through. I haven't played the Cruiser II in months, but I will definitely miss the VK 30.01P and Covenanter. 

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Nice nerf to the T67,Marder and PZ1C 

_Red_Saaryn_ #29 Posted Mar 29 2020 - 04:09

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Germany gets all of the "nerfed" meanwhile Russia only has "buffed". This is why I hate wg devs. They can't be unbiased

SquiggyMcPew #30 Posted Mar 29 2020 - 04:12

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View PostBill_Nye_the_RussianSpy, on Mar 29 2020 - 03:02, said:

Nice nerf to the T67,Marder and PZ1C 

 

Looks like wg has decided to push players into the middle and upper tiers by removing most of the low tiers and nerfing the classics. Makes sense as it lessens the load on the mm and allows for faster matching.



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View Post_Red_Saaryn_, on Mar 29 2020 - 04:09, said:

Germany gets all of the "nerfed" meanwhile Russia only has "buffed". This is why I hate wg devs. They can't be unbiased

 

 

I wonder if that's because 4 of the 5 Russian tanks are being moved up a tier. Hmmmm....



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+1 for a superior effort.

 



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View PostScorpiany, on Mar 29 2020 - 02:29, said:


The difference between 210 pen and 248 pen is absolutely massive. 248 allows you reliably penetrate many armor plates that 210 couldn't, not to mention you're now getting 310 APCR. This will allow the T54E1 to fight so many more tanks in frontal engagements that otherwise would be unlikely to go well for it. Even if it will get matched up against other heavies, it's just one tank in the MM. For the overall course of the battle, the pen difference is far more beneficial than the mobility.

 

The gun handling will also help, since the unreliability of the T54E1's gun both for hitting tanks and penning tanks was by far its biggest downside. That will now be far less of an issue, which is absolutely worthwhile losing top speed and some traverse. It's still going to be relatively quick to turn and have decent enough acceleration, but now will have a much more usable gun for its Tier.

 

 

Those darn OP British light tanks! Gotta nerf them because they're clearly breaking the game balance. What's that? An EBR 105 did a 720 barrel roll, took 4 122mm shells to its wheels and then snap-shotted a Conqueror for 500 damage, all without taking a single hit point of damage in return? Nah, that's perfectly fine. But did you see that Crusader man? It was able to kill an M3 Lee one time in a fight, we gotta nerf it!

 

Damn, I was so focused on the AP pen buff for the 54E1, didn't even think about the prem, it's gone from the lowest tier 9 overall pen gun to middling AP pen and prem pen that matches a lot of tier 10s. 

 

Apparently there will be one 'nerf' (more of a fix really) to EBRs, the wheels will supposedly no longer absorb shots. 

 

Also, nothing for the Chinese med line :(



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View PostI_QQ_4_U, on Mar 29 2020 - 04:42, said:

 

 

I wonder if that's because 4 of the 5 Russian tanks are being moved up a tier. Hmmmm....

Have you ever tried to spearhead in a vk3001p against heavies? Or any tank in general? They didn't buff armor nor pen/alpha/gun handling on that tank. They just nerfed it all except gun/armor and added hp so they could call it a day and change it's class to heavy. They basically gave it the middle finger. Meanwhile Russians yes they are one tier higher but theyr slopped armor and high alpha guns are still relevant. In fact the kv-1s was downtiered making it op and they just now return it to its original site and you didn't see threads with people complaining about the kv being awful



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View Post_Red_Saaryn_, on Mar 29 2020 - 04:59, said:

Have you ever tried to spearhead in a vk3001p against heavies? Or any tank in general? They didn't buff armor nor pen/alpha/gun handling on that tank. They just nerfed it all except gun/armor and added hp so they could call it a day and change it's class to heavy. They basically gave it the middle finger. Meanwhile Russians yes they are one tier higher but theyr slopped armor and high alpha guns are still relevant. In fact the kv-1s was downtiered making it op and they just now return it to its original site and you didn't see threads with people complaining about the kv being awful

 

Dude, are you for real? Do you understand how massive of a difference being moved up a tier is? Just how awful the A-20, BT-7, SU-76M and KV-1S are in the test server right now? The KV-1S is going to be even worse at spearheading against heavies than the VK3001P is. Its almost as badly undergunned for its class and tier as the KV-5 is. 


Edited by Tupinambis, Mar 29 2020 - 05:22.


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View PostGryphon_, on Mar 29 2020 - 02:25, said:

Look at all the changes they made to the EBRs.... oh wait

To be fair, I'm pretty sure that WG said that the wheelies are getting nerfed in the same patch than the IS-4 and E-100 are getting buffed [which is in the supertest right now, so its probably next patch after 1.9]



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View PostTupinambis, on Mar 29 2020 - 05:24, said:

To be fair, I'm pretty sure that WG said that the wheelies are getting nerfed in the same patch than the IS-4 and E-100 are getting buffed [which is in the supertest right now, so its probably next patch after 1.9]

 

Not even really a nerf, more a fix so their wheels don't absorb shots anymore, and shooting their tyres will actually appreciably slow them down, rather than reduce their top speed by 5%.



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View PostSquiggyMcPew, on Mar 28 2020 - 17:32, said:

 

I can hear the howls of rage already. :trollface:


yep, this is hellcat nerf the sequel..... [edited][edited].



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The Russian mindset is one that I can't make sense of. They waller in misery, pain and suffering in the same way hippos waller in the mud. If something is fun or enjoyable, they want to kill it. It is just in their nature. So they go and kill off the last remaining lower tier tanks that are any fun to play. Ruin a few mid tier in the process. God only knows what they will do next. Teams are going to the dogs, everybody knows it too, you game boi's that grovel at WOT's feet {and lick their boots} can talk all the trash you want, but you also know it is true. When I first heard about the double barrel Russian heavy line I laughed and seriously thought they were only kidding. That and the clown cars only reinforces my belief that WOT is running on fumes, and at the least the NA server's days are numbered. Too bad a buyer won't come along and save this game from itself {it's tormentors in Minsk at least}. Once these changes are effected, I'll probably turn the lights out on my account.

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7 German tanks nerfed.... 1 buffed -- DW2 got a few hp.

 

5 Soviet tanks all buffs.

 

Would be funny if it wasn't so stupid.






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