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SquiggyMcPew #41 Posted Mar 29 2020 - 21:22

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View Postteamoldmill, on Mar 29 2020 - 21:18, said:

7 German tanks nerfed.... 1 buffed -- DW2 got a few hp.

 

Would be funny if it wasn't so stupid.

 

Thats how wg rolls with the german line. There are only so many buff points the devs allow to be used so if one tank(e75 this time) gets a nice buff many other german tanks have to give up buff points to acomplish it. The last time they did this they buffed the tiger 1 to super gun status but nerfed the crap out of half the entire tech tree to do it. Now the tiger 1 gets its super gun revoked(along with many other tanks) and the buff points go to the e75. :trollface:



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View PostScorpiany, on Mar 28 2020 - 14:22, said:

*Keep in mind, that since only Tier 1-6 tanks are getting their HP rebalanced, I will mention HP, profitability, repair and ammo changes to Tier 7-10 tanks, since they aren't a part of that rebalance. That makes such changes very notable on those vehicles

 

T67:

  • Engine power nerfed from 460 HP down to 380 HP (HP/ton effectively nerfed from 31.14 down to 25.72)
  • Gun handling on hull movement and traverse on stock tracks nerfed by 17%
  • Gun handling on hull movement and traverse on upgraded tracks nerfed by 14%
  • Aim time across all guns and turrets nerfed from 1.7 seconds to 1.9 seconds
  • Reverse speed nerfed from 20 km/h to 17 km/h

 

Wargaming are MASSIVE ****'s!!!

 

Instead of BUFFING all the MASSIVE **** TANKS of this game, they nerf a tank that is ALREADY MASSIVE **** in Tank Performance (though yes still not **** in the current meta, which tells you how REALLY BAD everything else is), which used to actually be GOOD long long ago until they nerfed it to **** a long time ago.  How the T67 used to be is how tanks of this game should be, IF WARGAMING ACTUALLY WANTED PEOPLE PLAYING THE GAME, buffed in degree depending on type/class etc.  Man I remember the fun of that tank.  A888h999ls!!!

 

BURN IN HELL WARGAMING....!!!

 

(p.s. and I rarely even play the tank, but it is one of a VERY small # of low tier tanks I've kept, cause it's at least playable in the meta, while almost nothing else is.)



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I am not sure why any of the VK 30.01 tanks would be considered heavies. The VK meant fully tracked, the 30 meant 30 ton, the 01 meant the 1st submission by the manufacturer. The 30.01 P just had the Porsche Gasoline-elctro motor. H was Henschel, D was Daimler, and M was MAN.

 

The Porsche turret built to accept the 8.8 wouldn't fit any of the 30.01 designs and was used on the VK 45.01 P (Tiger P Prototype) and finally the tiger 1.

 

They should all be mediums. If they want to bump it then mayby they bump it 1/2 way through its research say when you mount the 2nd turret you get a message that you are converting the med to a heavy and the crew goes as well.

 

 



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View Postteamoldmill, on Mar 29 2020 - 21:18, said:

7 German tanks nerfed.... 1 buffed -- DW2 got a few hp.

 

5 Soviet tanks all buffs.

 

Would be funny if it wasn't so stupid.

 

View PostSquiggyMcPew, on Mar 29 2020 - 21:22, said:

 

Thats how wg rolls with the german line. There are only so many buff points the devs allow to be used so if one tank(e75 this time) gets a nice buff many other german tanks have to give up buff points to acomplish it. The last time they did this they buffed the tiger 1 to super gun status but nerfed the crap out of half the entire tech tree to do it. Now the tiger 1 gets its super gun revoked(along with many other tanks) and the buff points go to the e75. :trollface:




You both need to carefully reread the changes being made to the Soviet vehicles. There's a specific key detail that you are missing. 



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Luchs nerf is sad. . Lo e that thing

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View PostOmega_Weapon, on Mar 28 2020 - 23:12, said:

Thanks for the careful analysis Scorpiany. One thing I'd like to add is that the Japanese Type 97 Chi-Ha is currently a medium tank and will be switched to a light tank (like the Chinese version), so that should mean a nice camo buff too.

The Chinese light version has exactly the same concealment values as the Japanese medium version. 



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View Postleeuniverse, on Mar 29 2020 - 22:09, said:

 

Wargaming are MASSIVE ****'s!!!

 

Instead of BUFFING all the MASSIVE **** TANKS of this game, they nerf a tank that is ALREADY MASSIVE **** in Tank Performance (though yes still not **** in the current meta, which tells you how REALLY BAD everything else is), which used to actually be GOOD long long ago until they nerfed it to **** a long time ago.  How the T67 used to be is how tanks of this game should be, IF WARGAMING ACTUALLY WANTED PEOPLE PLAYING THE GAME, buffed in degree depending on type/class etc.  Man I remember the fun of that tank.  A888h999ls!!!

 

BURN IN HELL WARGAMING....!!!

 

(p.s. and I rarely even play the tank, but it is one of a VERY small # of low tier tanks I've kept, cause it's at least playable in the meta, while almost nothing else is.)

The T67 had become the Hellcat of old and needed to be nerfed. 

 

It's going to be interesting to see how the mix of tanks that I face on SA changes as a result of the nerfs to some of the most infamous seal clubber tanks. My Type 91 can't wait. :justwait::playing:


Edited by Trakks, Mar 30 2020 - 02:51.


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View PostTrakks, on Mar 29 2020 - 18:46, said:

The T67 had become the Hellcat of old and needed to be nerfed. 

 

It's going to be interesting to see how the mix of tanks that I face on SA changes as a result of the nerfs to some of the most infamous seal clubber tanks. My Type 91 can't wait. :justwait::playing:

 

No, other tanks of the game needed to be buffed, instead of the tank being turned into donkey ****.

 

The same thing happened to the Hellcat...  The best tank that I've ever played in the game, how it felt in every respect playing, it's performance, NERFED into donkey ****, instead of buffing all the massive donkey **** around it, they utterly ruin a truly enjoyable tank to play.  BTW, the Hellcat especially didn't need to be nerfed the way it did because some good lights at the time came out which were able to compete against it.  The ONLY nerf the Hellcat actually needed was for its DPM to be lowered greatly, so it wasn't so easy to farm other tanks.  The original T67 was almost the same, it was a joy to play.  And to be clear, I'm NOT talking about the Hellcat being 'op', I'm talking about how it performed, it was SMOOTH AS SILK...

 

Wargaming and the rest of you think backward...  You should be asking for the game to be IMPROVED, not everything nerfed to where we are ALL deaf, dumb, and blind!

 

It's the same kind of thinking a particular side has out in the world, they think "taking" from those who have and to give it to the have nots is how you solve the problems with there being have nots.  When the proper and moral solution is to build the have nots instead, increase their pie.  Pie is infinate.  ALL can learn and do, and thus receive.



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View PostxxBigbacon, on Mar 30 2020 - 01:44, said:

Luchs nerf is sad. . Lo e that thing

 

That cancer on tracks wasn't nerfed enough, but it's a good start.



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View PostSquiggyMcPew, on Mar 29 2020 - 00:32, said:

 

I can hear the howls of rage already. :trollface:


Looks like the old Hellcat gutting.

 

Why on the Bathtub! I love that tank its my relaxation night for WoT. Really no reason to keep it now.

 

RIP both of you the times were good now it has passed...along with my old Hellcat, my old Bis, My Waffle....I AM GETTING PISSED NOW!!!!!

 

 


Edited by AllieOop2, Mar 30 2020 - 08:17.


Trakks #51 Posted Mar 30 2020 - 08:50

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View PostAllieOop2, on Mar 30 2020 - 07:12, said:


 

 

Why on the Bathtub! 

 

 

 

 

Because derp guns are cancer and because that gun, for some reason, was one that somehow escaped the previous nerfing of premium ammo and retained it's superior alpha damage over regular ammo. At tier 5, 330 alpha, combined with 223 pen, pretty much makes everything a 2-hit kill. 


Edited by Trakks, Mar 30 2020 - 08:52.


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View PostTupinambis, on Mar 30 2020 - 01:39, said:

 




You both need to carefully reread the changes being made to the Soviet vehicles. There's a specific key detail that you are missing. 

 

Wasn't talking about the rooshkies but the huns. Sometimes the rooshkies get some nerfs but they mostly get buffs but the huns always have to pay heavily for even buffing one tank.



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View PostxxBigbacon, on Mar 30 2020 - 00:44, said:

Luchs nerf is sad. . Lo e that thing

Are they really nerfs, though? Does aim time and dispersion really matter in a vehicle that usually only shoots other vehicles at point blank range? If you're right up in someone's face, like you most often are in the Luchs or Pz 1 C whether you do the circular dance of death around them or do a straight line strafing run then run like hell, it's pretty hard to miss when you're only a few yards away. I think in practice, these "nerfs" are going to be on paper only and have little effect on how you actually play these tanks. They will still be just as cancerous to the low tiers as they have always been. WG is only "nerfing" them on paper to make it look like they care about player complaints. 


Edited by Trakks, Mar 30 2020 - 09:54.


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FYI,

you have the Crusader as : "Vehicle class changed to Medium from Light"

 

Its the opposite. Its changing to a Light from a Medium.

 

WG are really ruining the best German medium in the game. Not sure what they think is the benefit of re designating the VK 30.0.1.P



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View Postcrasta, on Mar 30 2020 - 10:53, said:

FYI,

you have the Crusader as : "Vehicle class changed to Medium from Light"

 

Its the opposite. Its changing to a Light from a Medium.

 

WG are really ruining the best German medium in the game. Not sure what they think is the benefit of re designating the VK 30.0.1.P

Historically, it was always classed as a medium. They are only doing it so they can make an uninterrupted line of light tanks from tier I-X. That's why they moved the Cromwell to a different place in the tech tree, it was obstructing the way up to the higher tier lights. 

 

And you're right. Reclassifying the VK is kind of strange. I can see the logic that it was a developmental stage on the road to the Tiger P, but Germany already has a heavy at that tier and doesn't really need another one, especially since it has even less armor than the VK 36.01 (H). There are two other mediums at that tier. Maybe they feel that the armor profile steps too much onto the VK 30.02(M)'s turf. Or maybe they're doing it because they want to sell more Pz IV Schmalturms from the premium shop. 


Edited by Trakks, Mar 30 2020 - 12:21.


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View PostSquiggyMcPew, on Mar 28 2020 - 18:32, said:

 

I can hear the howls of rage already. :trollface:

Yes, no more 20k games of stat padding with it.


Edited by Atragon, Mar 30 2020 - 12:29.


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View Postleeuniverse, on Mar 29 2020 - 22:01, said:

 

No, other tanks of the game needed to be buffed, instead of the tank being turned into donkey ****.

 

 

Ludicrous. 



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What is the latest info on when this will be rolled out?

Captram77 #59 Posted Mar 30 2020 - 13:18

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Half of you people are none stop complainers, first t67 needed to be nerfed along time coming. Secondly if they didn't buff those Russian tanks and put them into the tier higher, you would complain that they were idiots for not buffing. Not Russian bias, only idiots would think so, for these changes, with the exception of the British tanks not getting the same treatment. People who are whining about their op lower tier tank being nerfed, just going have to start playing on an even field. 

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Soviet: 100% buff

Germany: 99% Nerf






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