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Captram77 #61 Posted Mar 30 2020 - 13:39

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View PostSteelRonin, on Mar 30 2020 - 13:26, said:

Soviet: 100% buff

Germany: 99% Nerf

You 100% Nerfed, everyone else 99% buffed.


Edited by Captram77, Mar 30 2020 - 13:40.


Ratnikk #62 Posted Mar 30 2020 - 13:44

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Russian bias again, pretty sad how they need a game to flex their nonexistent muscle. When you play western games like battlefield they make sure to balance the countries properly without bias. Learn from this.

Tupinambis #63 Posted Mar 30 2020 - 14:01

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View PostSteelRonin, on Mar 30 2020 - 13:26, said:

Soviet: 100% buff

Germany: 99% Nerf

 

View PostRatnikk, on Mar 30 2020 - 13:44, said:

Russian bias again, pretty sad how they need a game to flex their nonexistent muscle. When you play western games like battlefield they make sure to balance the countries properly without bias. Learn from this.




Jesus
Christ

Did you guys even bother to read the changes? The Soviet tanks are not getting buffed. The BT-2 is the only tank actually getting buffed. 



jeb2 #64 Posted Mar 30 2020 - 14:04

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View PostTrakks, on Mar 30 2020 - 08:50, said:

Because derp guns are cancer and because that gun, for some reason, was one that somehow escaped the previous nerfing of premium ammo and retained it's superior alpha damage over regular ammo. At tier 5, 330 alpha, combined with 223 pen, pretty much makes everything a 2-hit kill. 

 

I had to learn to appreciate the Bathtub.  It has such a long reload, and the open turret absolutely offers a welcome mat to any arty fire.  It also maneuvers like a bathtub.

 

So, surely WG will close up the turret some and improve the tank handling in compensation.   Ha-ha-ha.


Edited by jeb2, Mar 30 2020 - 14:53.


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View PostTupinambis, on Mar 30 2020 - 13:01, said:

 




Jesus
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Did you guys even bother to read the changes? The Soviet tanks are not getting buffed. The BT-2 is the only tank actually getting buffed. 

 

So they go up a tier, who cares. Will still be better than German tanks, and we all know it. Heck the only big change for Germany is a medium changing to a heavy with only giant nerfs.....



Ratnikk #66 Posted Mar 30 2020 - 14:23

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View PostTupinambis, on Mar 30 2020 - 08:01, said:

 




Jesus
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Did you guys even bother to read the changes? The Soviet tanks are not getting buffed. The BT-2 is the only tank actually getting buffed. 


Regardless of the update, its pretty obvious russian tanks are better thats a fact. Why? Because RUSSIA COMRADE!!



Ekidutu #67 Posted Mar 30 2020 - 15:17

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So they are super testing a tier 6 British light which historically was the tank the 77mm gun used by the Comet was designed for, but it will be sold as a premium while the Crusader will be completely useless at that tier.

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View Postteamoldmill, on Mar 30 2020 - 14:15, said:

 

So they go up a tier, who cares. Will still be better than German tanks, and we all know it. Heck the only big change for Germany is a medium changing to a heavy with only giant nerfs.....

 

View PostRatnikk, on Mar 30 2020 - 14:23, said:


Regardless of the update, its pretty obvious russian tanks are better thats a fact. Why? Because RUSSIA COMRADE!!


OH MY GOD
Every single Russian tank getting bumped up a tier is now easily the worst vehicle in its new class and tier. Getting booted up a tier is an *ENORMOUS* nerf. Just look at the difference between the T-34-1` at tier 7 and T-34-2 at tier 8. You take the best tier 7 medium in the game, give it modest buffs to all of its characteristics, and you end up with the worst tier 8 medium in the game.


You keep going on about the VK3001P getting nerfed as a heavy. That sucks, its still vastly superior over the KV-1S. That tank went from being an excellent tier 5 heavy to being an absolute dogsh!t tier 6 heavy, by far the worst in the game. Worse than the Churchill VII. The SU-76M? Its so bad that the Somua Sau 40 now looks good in comparison, speak nothing of the Hetzer or Stug B. Even the Marder III, after getting nerfed, is absolutely god-like compared to the SU. 



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It seems that WG doesn't just want to balance things out a bit, but also get revenge on tanks that were OP by making them worthless instead of just average.

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View PostTupinambis, on Mar 30 2020 - 14:35, said:

 


OH MY GOD
Every single Russian tank getting bumped up a tier is now easily the worst vehicle in its new class and tier. Getting booted up a tier is an *ENORMOUS* nerf. Just look at the difference between the T-34-1` at tier 7 and T-34-2 at tier 8. You take the best tier 7 medium in the game, give it modest buffs to all of its characteristics, and you end up with the worst tier 8 medium in the game.


You keep going on about the VK3001P getting nerfed as a heavy. That sucks, its still vastly superior over the KV-1S. That tank went from being an excellent tier 5 heavy to being an absolute dogsh!t tier 6 heavy, by far the worst in the game. Worse than the Churchill VII. The SU-76M? Its so bad that the Somua Sau 40 now looks good in comparison, speak nothing of the Hetzer or Stug B. Even the Marder III, after getting nerfed, is absolutely god-like compared to the SU. 


I will believe you when the numbers speak. When Germany has 95% of tanks being better than Russians, and not vice versa, I will believe you. My God, Russia might have a single tank that is not top tank in tier? Oh Noes!!!! Oh the huge manatee! It's not like Russia doesn't have other awesome t6 heavies........ does Germany? Nope. At least the KV-1S was excellent at some point. Can't say that about German tanks.

 

Russia does not have to have every single tank in every tier dominating. Germany deserves at least a few, instead of turds.

 

I mean, they nerfed the Emil? My god in heaven why? One of the worst tanks every to be introduced in the game.

 

by the way, T 34 2 significantly outperforms the Mutz, Panther 88, slightly better than the Indien. Only the Panther 2 somehow better, and not by much. Certainly not worst.


Edited by teamoldmill, Mar 30 2020 - 19:04.


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Also, some of these tanks will end up in the Collector's area.  Is there any reason whatsoever we would have to sell and then rebuy the same tank before or after 1.9 in order to keep it?

Edited by StoneTitan, Mar 31 2020 - 04:57.


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S35 CA losing the 105mm makes sense, it was confusing that it kept it when SU-85 lost the 107mm anyway.

And TBH, every gun option for the S35 CA is great at T5, even stock.

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View PostStoneTitan, on Mar 30 2020 - 15:21, said:

Also, some of these tanks will end up in the Collector's area.  Is there any reason whatsoever we would have to sell and then rebuy the same tank before or after 1.9 in order to keep it?

 

Wondering about this myself.  Last thing I heard is we will probably be able to keep the tank, but it may not have our favorite gun or whatever.  All this talk about selling and rebuying I'm guessing will not make a difference, correct?

 



NaliCow #74 Posted Apr 01 2020 - 15:31

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Some details on this would be nice instead of all this speculation.

marc_2018 #75 Posted Apr 03 2020 - 00:51

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Most of the russian tanks were buffed and most of the German tanks were Nerfed.

German tanks needed buffing not the russian ones.  As always russian bias is the

wg way.



Trakks #76 Posted Apr 03 2020 - 02:23

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View PostStoneTitan, on Mar 30 2020 - 20:21, said:

Also, some of these tanks will end up in the Collector's area.  Is there any reason whatsoever we would have to sell and then rebuy the same tank before or after 1.9 in order to keep it?

You would buy it before the 1.9 update if you haven't unlocked the tank(s) that it leads to. Those tanks will be unlocked for free, so you won't have to spend XP unlocking them. I'm buying every tank that I can from that list where I haven't unlocked the next one in the line because it's like a free gift of millions of XP that I now won't have to grind for.



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View PostCaptram77, on Mar 30 2020 - 06:39, said:

You 100% Nerfed, everyone else 99% buffed.

Yeah, I was reading another thread about this earlier today and the consensus was the German tanks got royally screwed while everything else was buffed to some degree. No bias at all...



Trakks #78 Posted Apr 03 2020 - 03:22

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View Postteamoldmill, on Mar 30 2020 - 13:15, said:

 

So they go up a tier, who cares. Will still be better than German tanks, and we all know it. Heck the only big change for Germany is a medium changing to a heavy with only giant nerfs.....

The KV-1S is not as good as the VK36.01(H) at tier 6. It's not even as good as the Tiger 131.

 

In fact, it's not even competitive against any of Germany's tier 6 mediums. 

 

https://imgur.com/F0uJlke


Edited by Trakks, Apr 03 2020 - 04:46.


sparky_49 #79 Posted Apr 03 2020 - 08:24

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Any info on what will happen to the crew in a tank after it changes classes? 

 

For example if a tank changes from medium to heavy will the crew in it be re-trained automatically at no cost, or will WE have to pay for re-training because WG changed the class of the tank?  Either way, after the change that crew wouldn't be able to use the same premium trainer as before.

 

It seems to me there will be some crew training changes that will have to be dealt with due to the class changes, and I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere. I haven't been around long enough to see this done, what happened to the crews in the past when a tank changed classes?

 

 



Pepino1976 #80 Posted Apr 03 2020 - 09:26

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The T67 was lots of fun to play. I should have played it more. Now I don't think it will be as much fun.

 

The Marder 38t is one of my fave low Tier tanks. Now it gets nerfed. I will miss it the way it was.

 

Hellcat they nerfed years ago especially on the reverse speed and that still hurts. Recently they nerfed the reverse on the FV4005 and that really hurts.

 

Wargaming has been slowly ruining my enjoyment of tanks I like to play. I'm getting tired of it.






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