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[USMarine]

cmdrnarrain, on Jan 10 2012 - 16:08, said:

The Chaffee is garbage.

It is sits unused and unloved most garages.  It should have been cool, but it isn't.  Drive a T-50 if you want to have fun with a light tank.

WOT could do a couple of things to turn it from garbage to ok,

1) Improve the accuracy of the gun.  It has a huge vision range which is going unused because you miss 1/2 your shots at long range and...

2) The end turret is impossible to miss and is just plain butt ugly.  Nothing is more frustrating then to fire 4 long range shots into the side of a hvy to see 2 hits for 8% damage and not being able to dodge their return fire due to the turret.  The return fire never seems to miss and pretty much cleans your clock.

3) Reduce its tier, it isn't a T-50 and has no place in tier 10 matches

4) There is no reason that such a poor tank should lose money.

You want to see what the Chaffee should have been, play a max'ed Mark III/IV.  

Passive scouting is zero fun and frankly is for losers.  If you want to sit in a bush all game play a TD.

USMarine, on Jan 06 2012 - 06:37, said:

There is always a small microcosm of people who need to explain away their suckage.

[Kalis]

Apparently Passive Scouting is for Losers

Maybe later I'll drive my Chaffee around again to show u a dominating game from firing the gun in it.  Right now I'm busy with the French tanks though.

[Tolos]

honestly i wouldnt bother guys, you could link every vid in the world showing him how good the chaffee is, and he would still would say it sucks badly. hes one of those guys that blames a tank for HIM being bad, and nothing will ever change that

im just trying to work out if hes a troll, or he honestly believes all the bullshit he spouts in every chaffee thread

[RedSon]

Stoddo2KX1, on Sep 30 2011 - 06:20, said:

I'm not hurt, its just insulting and irritating.  Your insinuation that there are no bad tanks just bad tank play is rather ludicrous.  

The tank by itself is inert the driver is responsible for the tanks actions.  Most often than not the problem lies in between the drivers seat and the steering column.  Let me illustrate with a simple formula.

GOOD TANK + FAIL DRIVER = BAD TANK

In most cases victory goes to the man not the machine.

[hiroshi_tea]

So...I'm sensing a pattern here

If you have a bad game - then that's proof that the chaffee sucks and is garbage
If you have a good game and post it - then that's cherry picking good games and doesn't prove anything because the tank still sucks

Yeah, there's no winning in this thread.  People are already stuck to their opinions.

[cmdrnarrain]

Oh look, its the we have to much time on our hands club or should I call it the... never had to play in a stock tank club, always use gold rounds and all of the extra equip club or always play platoon or play cherry picked company battles club or my Tier 10 tank gets me most of my wins and kills club.  

Its even my favorite... I have a blazing fast internet club so when I shoot a tank it blows up immediately instead of a second later, but honestly we are good because we are cool and not because any of the above.

Save the BS, anybody who has driven the straight Chaffee isn't buying what you are selling.  I'm not interested in stroking your ego.

If any end tier tank is sitting in a bush do nothing most players would question the driver's ability.  So yes, passive scouting is for losers.   Only people with a whole lot of time on their hands would find passive scouting enjoyable.

Happy, or do you need more of an explanation?

[Tolos]

cmdrnarrain, on Jan 11 2012 - 16:15, said:

Oh look, its the we have to much time on our hands club or should I call it the... never had to play in a stock tank club, always use gold rounds and all of the extra equip club or always play platoon or play cherry picked company battles club or my Tier 10 tank gets me most of my wins and kills club.  

Its even my favorite... I have a blazing fast internet club so when I shoot a tank it blows up immediately instead of a second later, but honestly we are good because we are cool and not because any of the above.

Save the BS, anybody who has driven the straight Chaffee isn't buying what you are selling.  I'm not interested in stroking your ego.

If any end tier tank is sitting in a bush do nothing most players would question the driver's ability.  So yes, passive scouting is for losers.   Only people with a whole lot of time on their hands would find passive scouting enjoyable.

Happy, or do you need more of an explanation?

to answer your first part, i play for about 2 hours a day if that as i have a family and a job, i had to play stock tanks the same as everyone else and i ONLY i use gold rounds in clan war, yes i DO platoon but then i have friends ( might wanna try making some ) i dont play company battles because they take to long to get going, and look at my stats and you will see not one of my tier 10 tanks is near the top. so all in all you failed hardcore there and made yourself look like a dick with kiddie insults

Part 2 next, i live in the UK so i have a ping of 130 or more and i have a 2meg net, so again pathetic

part 3 its nothing to to do with ego and everything to do with the bullshit you spout about a tank YOU dont like because YOU are bad in it, what WE are trying to say is the chaffee is not a BAD tank or a GREAT tank, its a GOOD tank used in the right way with the right player

part 4 EVER played a TD ???? they sit in a bush, they are end tier, still gonna question the drivers ability ?? lol, a good scout be they passive OR active can and DOES win battles for teams. i personally dont like it s a passive scout because i think its boring, i play it alot like i played the E8, but its just alot more agile with a better gun. its always balanced the same as the E8

simply put, you pathetic tries to insult me and other players for playing the tank how it SHOULD be play, pretty much sums up the kind of tanker and player you are, look back of everything you have writen here and its all pretty much " you suck, you have no life, you dont play it right, you have to use gold to win ".

everything you have said is either an outright lie or a veiled insult. you suck with the tank we get that, you dont like the tank because you suck in it, we get that also, you might not be a bad player but your bad in the chaffee, its no big deal, its YOUR ego that is saying " well i suck in the tank so it MUST be shit "

but troll on little man, because i cant be bothered to go back and forth with a closed minded simpleton anymore

have a nice day

PS hope you get better in the chaffee

[KnightFandragon]

Yeees!! I agree the Chaffee is BAD!!! ASS!!!!! Who in their own right mind could say the CHaffee is BAD?  Thing is the American T54...its fast as fuck, gun is plenty deadly, its manuverable as hell, its tiny and hard to hit......Who the hell says the Chaffee is BAD?  Those who say that just dont know how to play Tanks...Sure it gets poor MM, but ive been circle strafed 2 times in my T29 by a CHaffee now....

Just play the thing like an Easy 8 and it will be easy street...

[TEForest]

cmdrnarrain, on Jan 11 2012 - 16:15, said:

Oh look, its the we have to much time on our hands club or should I call it the... never had to play in a stock tank club, always use gold rounds and all of the extra equip club or always play platoon or play cherry picked company battles club or my Tier 10 tank gets me most of my wins and kills club.  

Its even my favorite... I have a blazing fast internet club so when I shoot a tank it blows up immediately instead of a second later, but honestly we are good because we are cool and not because any of the above.

Save the BS, anybody who has driven the straight Chaffee isn't buying what you are selling.  I'm not interested in stroking your ego.

If any end tier tank is sitting in a bush do nothing most players would question the driver's ability.  So yes, passive scouting is for losers.   Only people with a whole lot of time on their hands would find passive scouting enjoyable.

Happy, or do you need more of an explanation?

Dude after reading this my only real question for you is...Need some Preparation-H?

[cmdrnarrain]

Oh I forgot, I play at weird hours club.  I think you will find the quality of player on the NA server is slightly better between 3-12 pm USA central time then say between 4-10 am.

Perhaps am being to indirect....

YOUR SKILLS MAY NOT BE THE RESULT OF SUPERIOR PLAY BUT DUE TO A HOST OF OTHER FACTORS

Some people are very good at tanks, but their skill isn't generally something someone else could learn.  The majority general have some advantage that they weren't aware of having or were to egoistical to see.

For the record, I play it very similar to the way I play the Easy 8, however, I had another "expert" tell me I was a nob for doing so and that wasn't how you should play the Chaffee at all.   So which one of you "experts" is correct?  

You feel better... I sure do.  The Chaffee is garbage and time will tell if anybody is still playing it in another month.

[johnnycongdon]

Personally i kick chaffees hard with either my t-50-2 and vk2801... i dont know if the chaffee's worth the grind

[Tolos]

cmdrnarrain, on Jan 11 2012 - 22:07, said:

Oh I forgot, I play at weird hours club.  I think you will find the quality of player on the NA server is slightly better between 3-12 pm USA central time then say between 4-10 am.

Perhaps am being to indirect....

YOUR SKILLS MAY NOT BE THE RESULT OF SUPERIOR PLAY BUT DUE TO A HOST OF OTHER FACTORS

Some people are very good at tanks, but their skill isn't generally something someone else could learn.  The majority general have some advantage that they weren't aware of having or were to egoistical to see.

For the record, I play it very similar to the way I play the Easy 8, however, I had another "expert" tell me I was a nob for doing so and that wasn't how you should play the Chaffee at all.   So which one of you "experts" is correct?  

You feel better... I sure do.  The Chaffee is garbage and time will tell if anybody is still playing it in another month.

Edited because you not worth the effort plus with this last stupid comment i now know your a troll. keep thinking what you want i really dont care

[cmdrnarrain]

Again, if that is the case stop posting.

[USMarine]

Everyone keep posting to keep this troll busy. Maybe we'll have enough posts that he will stroke out and die in his mommy's basement. Then the world will be a better place.

[Omer_Elamin]

I think a big part of the Chaffee's frustration is how its treated with credit/EXP earning and how MMer places it.  I had a game a long time ago where I spotted about 7 enemies and hit them something like 35 of 50 shots.  They were such huge tanks that lots of those were zero damage critical hits.  The game was a loss and I never got hit.  It was about a break even on credits.  Recently I had a great game in  the Chaffee, I played way behind the enemy line and did lots of damage.  However, the game had max of Tier 7 in it so lots of damage was to even tier or below Chaffee's tier.  But I think the Chaffee isn't a very good scout its probably better in a support role but how can it really support games with Tier 8-10 tanks well without getting killed too quickly? Thats hard to say.  I have a fair number of Chaffee battles at this point so I could probably form a more informed opinion about it.  But I think it fails at being a good scout compared to other better scouts and how MMer treats it.

[SuperSentinal]

The funny thing is I think I do better with the chaffee when I'm at the bottom of the roster, and I pine for the chance to face a maus one on one.

What I also like is that the chaffee is rare, so people really don't know how to react to it. You get  those situations where the enemy team ignores you, then you make them regret it.

[Zepheris]

Then you must've played in the great kind of timezone, because when i play everytime i see a chaffee, T-50-2, or VK16 they explode into a roman candle the moment they are seen by the main force.

They all WITHOUT fail target it first, hell it could have Type59 going with it too or other meds following it, and they all fire on the T5 lights instead. It was very amusing watching all this happen as i sat on the hill and the little chaffee was clearly being targeted above the rest of his fella since i can see all the shells narrowly missing him before he exploded.

[eolsunder]

Well as for someone who is playing in a Chaffee working up to higher levels, the Chaffee is a pretty decent tank for its Tier. But yes, sadly its often thrown in the battles with Tier 8+ heavies, which usually 1 shot kill it.

I learned, after many many deaths, that You can ONLY do 1 of 2 things in a Chaffee fight in those tough battles. 1, scout fast and early and try and get some scouting exp, or 2, stay behind and provide sniper fire for the heavies duking it out. You aren't going to do anything against heavy tanks, even though the Chaffee has a decent gun. You can shoot them for hours, you won't make much of a difference if you are up close, they will kill you quick. Instead, keep back, let the heavies take the brunt of the fighting, your Chaffee will be excellent in providing covering fire on any light/med/TD you see. And once in a while you can throw out some shots at the heavies littering the field.

But all light tank players know, when the dumb game throws you into those higher tier battles vs strong tanks, you can't take any pounding. Heck if your heavy tanks are getting smushed, you will. I shake my head after so many 1 shot kills just pondering what the heck my Tier 5 light tank can do vs Tier 10 heavy tanks. Well, nothing really, but you can snipe from afar.

You will realize though that the Chaffee is pretty fast with its best engine, and has good radio spread, making it a excellent concealed scout if you can get crew camo trained + camo net. On many boards i know certain spots i can bush hide and unless something comes out of its normal way, i'll light up enemies all over the place for my team mates. Of course, i don't get to shoot anything, not like ill make a dent in any big tank, but i can light them up, which is really the only thing you can do in heavy battles and hope your team mates can shoot.

In most battles you will encounter, treat the Chaffee as a 1 shot kill tank, which it is. Use your scouting ability to your advantage. I would go all skills/items for scouting. Faster aiming, turning, etc is useless in the heavy fights you will encounter. Hiding will keep you alive and useful. Go with camo, camo, camo! radio range boosts, etc. Make the most of your SCOUT tank for scouting.

If you compare the Chaffee to other top line light tanks, its similar to the german and russian light tanks, same general hps, a little slower than the others. Only the french top tier light tank is out of whack compared to usa/german/russia. The french light top tier tank has almost 2x the hps, highest gun damage of them all, better speed than the chaffee (though slower than german/russia). When i ran into that AMX light tank and saw "1000 health" i was like wait, thats a LIGHT tank!