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Poll: Clan Wars Tech Tree Tanks Only Season (80 members have cast votes)

Would you support a CW's Tech Tree Only season?

  1. Yes (63 votes [78.75%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 78.75%

  2. No (17 votes [21.25%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 21.25%

Would you support a CW's Season with no reward tanks or Wheeled vehicles like they do in competitive matches?

  1. Yes (61 votes [76.25%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 76.25%

  2. No (19 votes [23.75%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.75%

Would you support using new maps in Clan Wars for the next season?

  1. Yes (64 votes [80.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 80.00%

  2. No (16 votes [20.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

Which Tank do you feel is most overpowered?

  1. T95/FV4201 (39 votes [42.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 42.86%

  2. Obj 907 (16 votes [17.58%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 17.58%

  3. Obj 279 (36 votes [39.56%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 39.56%

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Capt_Buss #1 Posted May 15 2020 - 17:43

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I was reading about a war gaming competitive match in which the teams were limited to no reward tanks and no wheeled vehicles. It got me thinking about having a Clan Wars season with just tech tree tanks. I know many who have reward vehicles will be first to say they want to use their tanks but was wondering what support it would have. 

JimBob49 #2 Posted May 15 2020 - 18:03

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Reward tanks only matter when one team has them and the other doesn't. It separates ok clans from each other, not good clans from bad clans.

Buttknuckle #3 Posted May 15 2020 - 18:18

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OP, if only you could team up with a few of the "only allow reward tanks in CW" types and author a joint proposal. That way there would be no reason to own one.

Casual_Boops #4 Posted May 15 2020 - 18:55

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I've seen several tier-10 exhibition tournaments that only allowed tech-tree tanks, and I found that there was much greater diversity in the tank lineup, which is positive IMO. Rather than 5 chieftains, 5 279(e), 1 arty, 2 EBR and maybe 2 907, you'd have a more varied group of tanks. It's pretty telling when the first thing a caller does on some maps is say "ok, how many 279es can I get? alright, then the rest chieftains."

 

FYI, I have almost all the tier 10 tanks in the game (except T95E6), so this isn't me complaining about other people and tanks I don't have-- I have them all, and I'd prefer to see tech-tree tanks only.



Xeraux_TV #5 Posted May 15 2020 - 19:09

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My view is that all reward tanks and wheelies should be banned from all forms of competitive play.

They can play randoms (wheelies should be removed, tho), but tournaments, CW, league, strongholds, it's all tech tree tanks.

 

As Boops said, you get more diversity and it makes the game more interesting.

Not to mention, it's an incentive to grind some more tier 10s as well. Suddenly the 5A or 113 might be relevant again.



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it would be very interesting to say the least.

 

I'd be up for it.



ThePigSheFlies #7 Posted May 15 2020 - 20:08

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Much like many of us suggested for ranked, I'd like to see tier 9.  Overall it's a much more balanced tier imho, and only recently have the reward tanks started to enter tier 9 - and none of those tier reward tanks really seem over powered compared to their tech tree counterpart.

 

The problem, is that wargaming would then have to admit that they've turned tier 10 into a garbage pile, and contrary to the tone deaf developer in the T.A.P. interview, it's not just because of credit sink...



Cowcat137 #8 Posted May 15 2020 - 20:57

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View PostThePigSheFlies, on May 15 2020 - 20:08, said:

Much like many of us suggested for ranked, I'd like to see tier 9.  Overall it's a much more balanced tier imho, and only recently have the reward tanks started to enter tier 9 - and none of those tier reward tanks really seem over powered compared to their tech tree counterpart.

 

The problem, is that wargaming would then have to admit that they've turned tier 10 into a garbage pile, and contrary to the tone deaf developer in the T.A.P. interview, it's not just because of credit sink...

The problem, is that wargaming would then have to admit that they've turned tier 10 into a garbage pile

 

 

That's the issue. The reward tank population has reached critical mass and there's no easy solution: either do nothing and make all tech tree teams second class citizens or buff the tech tree tanks and ratchet up the power creep for all tiers.



Highly_Illogical #9 Posted May 15 2020 - 21:03

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As interesting of an idea this is, it is simple not possible with how things stand as it now. Without all these reward tanks, CW would be way different, however, people will then complain about removing CW tanks from Randoms, and then, whats the point of getting a Reward tank?

Capt_Buss #10 Posted May 15 2020 - 21:33

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View PostHighly_Illogical, on May 15 2020 - 14:03, said:

As interesting of an idea this is, it is simple not possible with how things stand as it now. Without all these reward tanks, CW would be way different, however, people will then complain about removing CW tanks from Randoms, and then, whats the point of getting a Reward tank?

 I watched an interview with the new lead game developer who stated that the biggest complaint about the Chieftain was in Clan wars and not in PUB's.  I will try to find that interview and link it. You do have a valid point also about when does it end. That is why my poll suggest it for a season of  since they were already doing it for competitions.   However, in the interview he also mentions buffing the other tanks rather than nerffing the 1 or 3.

 

I couldn't find the video. (of course) But I do have a link to a q&a where they said they would not straight nerf the chieftain or 279 but may ban it from certain game play. (rank battles ect)

 

https://wotguru.com/world-of-tanks-na-live-developer-q-a-w-cody_menz-13disciple-nick_shox/

 


Edited by Capt_Buss, May 15 2020 - 21:59.


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View PostCowcat137, on May 15 2020 - 13:57, said:

The problem, is that wargaming would then have to admit that they've turned tier 10 into a garbage pile

 

 

That's the issue. The reward tank population has reached critical mass and there's no easy solution: either do nothing and make all tech tree teams second class citizens or buff the tech tree tanks and ratchet up the power creep for all tiers.

 

Nobody paid money for reward tanks, so there are no ethical issues or legal issues with nerfing them... FYI. 



Capt_Buss #12 Posted May 16 2020 - 00:36

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I see that 27% of those who have taken the poll thus far voted against having any new maps to play clan wars on.  I am wondering why? 

Casual_Boops #13 Posted May 16 2020 - 05:31

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View PostCapt_Buss, on May 15 2020 - 17:36, said:

I see that 27% of those who have taken the poll thus far voted against having any new maps to play clan wars on.  I am wondering why? 

 

Most of the time, the reason a map isn't used in CW is because it's trash balance-wise. 



Capt_Buss #14 Posted May 16 2020 - 18:36

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View PostCasual_Boops, on May 15 2020 - 22:31, said:

 

Most of the time, the reason a map isn't used in CW is because it's trash balance-wise. 

I can see that on some of the maps but not all. In fact some of the new maps have more balance than the old.  Provo  and the hill are unbalanced compared to say Glacier. 

 



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View PostCapt_Buss, on May 15 2020 - 18:36, said:

I see that 27% of those who have taken the poll thus far voted against having any new maps to play clan wars on.  I am wondering why? 

 

Many of the maps that aren't used are unbalanced or would turn into a campfest.  Not that some of the maps that are used aren't unbalanced also.







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