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Porphos #1 Posted May 22 2020 - 15:37

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I am now finally about to get a new PC. Just for frame of reference, the PC I have been using to play WoT is literally a toaster with an average of 6 fps, but what can you do if you still enjoy the game and can still get decent games out of it? As for a new computer, I have done some of my own research and got it down to maybe two computers. I am just trying to figure out if I can low ball a little here as I am a college student and don't really have money to throw around. The two computers I have it down to are these:

 

Dell G5 15 Gaming Laptop: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/pdp/spd/g-series-15-5590-laptop/gn5590dpess

Inspiron 15 5000 Laptop: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-15-5000-laptop/spd/inspiron-15-5593-laptop/nn5593dssgh

 

Of the two, the first is most definitely the higher end, but I am not sure if dropping the extra money is worth it. Both have 16 GB of RAM, have i7 processors (the first's processor has better GHz), and seem to be good computers all around. Where the second PC may potentially lose it is on the graphics card: Intel® Iris Plus Graphics with shared graphics memory (vs NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 2060 6GB GDDR).

 

My question is: Is the higher graphics card really worth it? Can I just get by with the cheaper card?

 

Keep in mind, though, WoT has the highest level of graphics of anything I play, and I am not really looking to play on ultra graphics settings. What level of graphics do you think the Inspiron could do, and is it worth it? Your opinions would be appreciated. Thank you :)

 

 



Kramah313 #2 Posted May 22 2020 - 15:51

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I have an older version of the first one with a 1060 6 GB and it runs ultra at 80 FPS. It’s basically overkill for WoT. 

 

Edit: well looking at benchmarks some of those Intel Iris integrated graphics cards actually do pretty well on games. It probably depends on the model of the integrated graphics but it’s not specific in the link. 

 

Edit 2: Looks like it may be a iris graphics G7. Benchmarks seem to indicate it would be more than fine for WoT, especially at the standard you’re looking for. Removed my earlier guess to the contrary.  I would decide based on other features. 


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Are you planning on playing any other games? The first laptop is overkill for this game. 

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View PostAppleDaD6, on May 22 2020 - 15:52, said:

Are you planning on playing any other games? The first laptop is overkill for this game. 

I don't really plan to play any other games. Part of my search for a good computer is I am a machine learning major.



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My son got this one and plays ultra at 80+ fps

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-L340-i7-9750H-1650-Backlit/dp/B08543BJN2/ref=sr_1_7?crid=1FBQ3I1CAPDEJ&dchild=1&keywords=lenovo+gaming+laptop&qid=1590159350&sprefix=lenevo+gaming%2Caps%2C148&sr=8-7

 


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Iris Pro is not anywhere near the RTX 2060 in performance.  Iris pro will play tanks but it will do so very poorly.

 

Get the G5.

 

Of the two Intel Chips, the 9750H is the winner with 6 cores and 12 threads (it's in my own personal laptop, a Dell G3 with the same hardware except a GTX 1660Ti instead of an RTX 2060.



Porphos #7 Posted May 22 2020 - 16:22

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View Post_Tsavo_, on May 22 2020 - 16:05, said:

Iris Pro is not anywhere near the RTX 2060 in performance.  Iris pro will play tanks but it will do so very poorly.

 

Get the G5.

 

Of the two Intel Chips, the 9750H is the winner with 6 cores and 12 threads (it's in my own personal laptop, a Dell G3 with the same hardware except a GTX 1660Ti instead of an RTX 2060.

As for poorly, what level of poorly to your estimate? What level of settings? FPS?



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View PostPorphos, on May 22 2020 - 10:22, said:

As for poorly, what level of poorly to your estimate? What level of settings? FPS?

 

all settings low, probably somewhere in the range of 15-45 FPS at 1920 x 1080, this will not be consistent, you'll have areas where it's 45 and then suddenly drop below 20



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View PostPorphos, on May 22 2020 - 16:22, said:

As for poorly, what level of poorly to your estimate? What level of settings? FPS?


Here a site with some comparisons

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Iris-Plus-Graphics-655-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.316632.0.html

 

those graphics chips seem to be performing around dedicated graphics cards from several generations ago. I was surprised by how good this chip seems to do for integrated. I would say you’d get at least what Tsavo mentioned, maybe even on medium settings.

 

However, my G5 wasn’t much more than the $850 for that second one. I think his point, and I’m not sure I disagree, is that you’re giving up a TON of graphics performance by choosing the Inspiron, but what are you giving up choosing the G5? The one in the link is very expensive, but you might check into previous G5 models. They have them with the 1650 and mine has a 1060 6 GB. Those are older cards but they both max out WoT easily and would mop the floor with the Iris integrated graphics. I would look into all options before choosing. 



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my pc spec is

i3 550

8gb ddr3

gtx960 4gb

 

and this spec is enough for this game



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View PostPorphos, on May 22 2020 - 08:55, said:

I don't really plan to play any other games. Part of my search for a good computer is I am a machine learning major.

 

You might want to spring for the extra gpu power as I've heard a lot of machine learning stuff leverages a dedicated gpu for processing.  Might want to check that out to be sure.  But my take is, intel integrated stuff is pretty much junk for anything other then light games.  By light games i mean indie games using pixel art.  Anything past that, even like minecraft, tend to drag it to it's knees and makes you suffer. 



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View PostPorphos, on May 22 2020 - 06:37, said:

I am now finally about to get a new PC. Just for frame of reference, the PC I have been using to play WoT is literally a toaster with an average of 6 fps, but what can you do if you still enjoy the game and can still get decent games out of it? As for a new computer, I have done some of my own research and got it down to maybe two computers. I am just trying to figure out if I can low ball a little here as I am a college student and don't really have money to throw around. The two computers I have it down to are these:

 

Dell G5 15 Gaming Laptop: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/pdp/spd/g-series-15-5590-laptop/gn5590dpess

Inspiron 15 5000 Laptop: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-15-5000-laptop/spd/inspiron-15-5593-laptop/nn5593dssgh

 

Of the two, the first is most definitely the higher end, but I am not sure if dropping the extra money is worth it. Both have 16 GB of RAM, have i7 processors (the first's processor has better GHz), and seem to be good computers all around. Where the second PC may potentially lose it is on the graphics card: Intel® Iris Plus Graphics with shared graphics memory (vs NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 2060 6GB GDDR).

 

My question is: Is the higher graphics card really worth it? Can I just get by with the cheaper card?

 

Keep in mind, though, WoT has the highest level of graphics of anything I play, and I am not really looking to play on ultra graphics settings. What level of graphics do you think the Inspiron could do, and is it worth it? Your opinions would be appreciated. Thank you :)

 

 


Recommend that you get the dedicated card.

 

I was able to get a Dell G15 5590 - with dedicated NVIDIA 6GB RTX 2060 - for around USD 1150 inclusive [unit, tax, shipping].  I run Linux primarily but also have MS Windows Pro installed on the machine.

 

MS Windows Pro only exists to run World of Tanks - Common Test Server and an occasional game on the Production server [when I do not want to reboot/shut down after being on the Common Test Server].  

 

macOS, my primary OS, does not currently support the Common Test Server due to Wargaming so I needed another solution - hence the Dell.

 

Will probably use it more once I get World of Tanks up-and-running in Linux ... but no time right now.

 

If I play on Minimum I get about 240 FPS at 2560x1440 over TB3.  

 

It is fine - screen is a little dull, , color reproduction seems off, extremely heavy, has a power supply three times bigger than the MacBook Pro and the power connection is in the back which makes it very difficult to use when resting on your knees, extremely noisy when playing WoT, extremely warm, trackpad is absolutely terrible compared to those on MacBook Pros, not able to change keyboard backlight color [has a strange uneven blue].


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How many years has your son used this laptop? Has it seen any problems outside of gaming? Is it durable?



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I've owned 3 Dells (1 was an Inspiron) and 1 Alienware. Don't buy them. Dell's fall apart and Alienware is overpriced.

 

I highly recommend Sager for gaming laptops, they're well-made, reasonably priced, and come with no bloatware.

 

Same cost as your Dell option:

https://www.sagernotebook.com/Notebook-NP8966-S.html






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