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KingOfBadlands #21 Posted May 22 2020 - 19:55

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                I hate all those tanks, 430U (the best tank in WOT)takes first place and the 279e second but I don't think they need nerfed but need to be left AS IS!

malaclase #22 Posted May 22 2020 - 19:59

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#sovietbias??

Trauglodyte #23 Posted May 22 2020 - 20:15

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Doesn't look like the Object 430U or 430 got touched at all.

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View PostTupinambis, on May 22 2020 - 12:42, said:

IMO the nerf to the 430U's gun handling is a much bigger deal than the armor nerf. Going from .12 to .16 gun bloom while moving is... actually kind of a big deal.

Yeah, that could be a bit painful.  Then again, 430U playstyle wasn't really run and gun anyway, so we'll see.   I do like that they're probably not over nerfing the 430U and 430, just a bit miffed that they're nerfing the Italians more, probably too much.



Buddha1369 #25 Posted May 22 2020 - 20:43

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View PostTupinambis, on May 22 2020 - 19:42, said:

IMO the nerf to the 430U's gun handling is a much bigger deal than the armor nerf. Going from .12 to .16 gun bloom while moving is... actually kind of a big deal.

 

As long as they keep their russian soft stats they will still be more accurate on the move than anything except wheelies.



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Italians need it more. Ya, getting hit by a 430 stinks, but the level of burst damage an Italian tank can dish out is crazy. Doesn't matter what hits you, JPE or a medium, if they both do 1000 damage a pop. Auto loaders are just out of control in general.

Tupinambis #27 Posted May 22 2020 - 20:49

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View PostBuddha1369, on May 22 2020 - 20:43, said:

 

As long as they keep their russian soft stats they will still be more accurate on the move than anything except wheelies.

Dude, that IS the soft stats getting nerfed.



Drifter_X #28 Posted May 22 2020 - 21:50

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View Post_Brew_, on May 22 2020 - 19:40, said:

They always overnerf before testing.  I expect that the Italian mediums will be readjusted again once the first round of testing is complete.  I am ticked that they are touching my Italian tanks though, I hope they ease up on them because speed + gun are all they have going for them.  If they are worried about burst potential there are less annoying things you can do to the tank than screw it's accuracy.

 

 

 


This is the way I feel. Play with its potential to do damage, but cut out the accuracy nerf.



PooperScooper762 #29 Posted May 22 2020 - 21:50

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People complain all the time about how imbalanced this game is, but when WG brings out balancing changes, the community says "no don't nerf that tank, I like playing that one". I don't get it, do you guys want balance changes or not?

 

 

My only issue with WG balance decisions is that they never actually balance the game, because there is far too much personal bias. When a tank that is preferred by unicums starts to over perform, people say that "only good players play it". The problem with this attitude is that the elite members of the community can decide whether or not statistics can be ignored. Since there is no statistic for average player skill in a given tank, there is no way to claim that "only good players play it". I guess we just have to take their word and mindlessly agree with everything the unicum players say right?

 

 

While I like playing this game, I hate the community of players that play it. This kind of crap tends to happen in FPS type games, eventually the best players get too much influence and start to affect the game balance with their opinions. But I've never seen the elite players coddled as much in any other game as they are in wot. They literally give reward tanks to the best players that are better than the tech tree tanks in every way.

 

 

In this particular game, meds and fast heavies have been dominating for most of the game's life. A proper balance patch would've been to alter this trend, but that should've happened 5 years ago. Now I think its way too late.

 

 

 



SteelRonin #30 Posted May 22 2020 - 21:54

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Second iteration: We reverted the 430U changes...

TheJeep1 #31 Posted May 22 2020 - 22:29

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We are just a sideshow here in the USA.   Russian players are where they make their money.  Notice every single time another nation has something good there is always a Russian competitive counter part added. 

Jaguarz #32 Posted May 22 2020 - 22:39

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View PostPooperScooper762, on May 22 2020 - 21:50, said:

People complain all the time about how imbalanced this game is, but when WG brings out balancing changes, the community says "no don't nerf that tank, I like playing that one". I don't get it, do you guys want balance changes or not?

 

 

 

 

Whats not to get? People only want tanks they dont have/play nerfed, nothing new here.



Jasper_Seven #33 Posted May 22 2020 - 22:55

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Yeah... don't you hate those games where 5-9 players are in the 430U, (or similar gift tank) because it is so OP??

 

Oh, wait, that never happens. (At least not in Random - if they want to put limits on clan wars or other tournament sub-games that's fine.)

 

I say, DON'T NERF ANYTHING!  Except, maybe either adjust the way rubber tires react to shells;  or give me a machine gun to go after wheelies; or give me a bunch of rubber tires to hang off the side of my tank (instead porch door screens) (Imagine the 3D camos added to all the tanks - black tires hanging and bouncing off the sides - maybe they shred and catch fire? )

 

If anything, UN-NERF some of the tanks that have been nerfed in the past.



alf2499 #34 Posted May 23 2020 - 01:14

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Phew, good thing I stopped the Italian line at tier 8.

DODGE_2016 #35 Posted May 23 2020 - 01:42

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do you realy think WG gives a rats backside, what we think,,see, they talked about other nerfs an so on before,,, they talking about this 430U an the italy line, just to take your mind off the CLOWN CARS,,,,,, again,, it dont matter what we think,, WG dont care but for what they want to do,, not the player base,,,, gl in clan wars if they do,,, but thats their plan,, for the 2% thats in their pockets heavy n have their clan war reward tank,, rest they dont give a rats backside about

SporkBoy #36 Posted May 23 2020 - 02:09

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How about fix bugs first then worry about "balance"?

Psst, theirs maps needing your attention.

No matter who whines about whichever tanks the problem is the playerbase so WG can't fix that.

HeavyMetalMech #37 Posted May 23 2020 - 03:23

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Ok, all tanks should be equal in every aspect with none having any advantage over another. Kind of like life, right? Not. How about not nerfing tanks that are seen as goals in On Track missions and with their own vulnerability built in, ie. long reload times. Really? You people screaming for fairness take the joy out of winning. How about everyone get back in the tier I tanks and no progression, premium rounds, and special equipment. Lets just chase each other like plastic ducks at a carny. Enough with the nerfs and I don't even play the so called op tanks often to pick a side. I hate the EBR, because I suck in it, but since I can't trade it for the Bourrasque I am stuck with it. I just don't like my efforts at achieving a nation's end line being utterly useless. If you have the money or skills then getting a premium is your reward. No sweat. We'll deal with it as a team. 

AllieOop2 #38 Posted May 25 2020 - 00:36

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View PostI_QQ_4_U, on May 22 2020 - 19:29, said:

 

 

I take it you've never played an MMO before?


Another mindless comment from you. What the hell does that have to do with getting jacked over constantly in this game with piss poor testing and implementation only to have it revised to something you did not want an would not of pursed in the first place? Yes played tons of them since the start of gaming online an this game has an extreme excess of revisionist actions due again to piss poor management and implementation.






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