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Nerfing the 430U / 430, Getto65 / Standard B


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Nonamanadus #21 Posted May 24 2020 - 03:19

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Never had an issue facing those tanks, how about nerfing OP Reward Tanks and the Wheelies ??? 

 

Out of touch as usual......



GundamEz8 #22 Posted May 29 2020 - 06:14

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View PostAllieOop2, on May 24 2020 - 03:15, said:


Please tell us exactly what the game would be like with no RGN. Use your brain!!!

the duck is RGN? what is your brain running on? 



Ridgerunner20 #23 Posted May 29 2020 - 06:22

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This is why I stopped playing this game for 4-5 years. I started to like something in the game (Like the Progetto 46) and decided I'll go up the tech tree to the tier 10 version. Then I almost get there and boom Nerf bat it. Fine, I won't finish unlocking it then. I've played it on the test servers, and it's not OP. Say what you want about premium tanks, but you can rely on them to stay the same. WG won't Nerf them. If they did, the player base would go crazy. I guess I'll just stick to my Progetto 46, and F the Progetto 65. 


Edited by Ridgerunner20, May 29 2020 - 06:22.


Saffron_Blaze #24 Posted May 29 2020 - 07:27

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View PostRidgerunner20, on May 29 2020 - 06:22, said:

This is why I stopped playing this game for 4-5 years. I started to like something in the game (Like the Progetto 46) and decided I'll go up the tech tree to the tier 10 version. Then I almost get there and boom Nerf bat it. Fine, I won't finish unlocking it then. I've played it on the test servers, and it's not OP. Say what you want about premium tanks, but you can rely on them to stay the same. WG won't Nerf them. If they did, the player base would go crazy. I guess I'll just stick to my Progetto 46, and F the Progetto 65. 

 

I am in the same boat. I was Free Exping and using Blueprints to move up the Prog 65 line after I figured out how to play effectively with the Prog 46. Now I won't bother going further and just leave the Standard B and Prog 65 un-researched. I will probably ditch the 430u I recently bought as well. No great loss, as Tier 10 is mostly trash with super OP EBRs and Clan Reward tanks making people's gaming experience miserable.



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View PostRidgerunner20, on May 29 2020 - 05:22, said:

This is why I stopped playing this game for 4-5 years. I started to like something in the game (Like the Progetto 46) and decided I'll go up the tech tree to the tier 10 version. Then I almost get there and boom Nerf bat it. Fine, I won't finish unlocking it then. I've played it on the test servers, and it's not OP. Say what you want about premium tanks, but you can rely on them to stay the same. WG won't Nerf them. If they did, the player base would go crazy. I guess I'll just stick to my Progetto 46, and F the Progetto 65. 


So you like crazy powerful tanks. Nothing wrong with that. But you really can't see balance issues? You know how many tanks, German ones in particular, will still be worlds behind the P 65 even after the nerf? Goodness.



Nerat_Kirine #26 Posted May 29 2020 - 11:32

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Lol the progetto is going to be useless without a rammer might was well just sell it. Not to mention the gun nerf lol wth?

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View Postteamoldmill, on May 29 2020 - 08:36, said:


So you like crazy powerful tanks. 

 

You must be deliberately misreading what I said. I pointed out a few crazy powerful tanks. The Prog 65 is not in their league, and yet it still has a high skill cap. After the nerf who will want to grind to get a mediocre tank, that still has a high skill cap, and then have to contend with "crazy powerful" EBRs and Clan reward tanks?



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Teamoldmill, you miss understand me. One can argue that there are a hell of a lot of "Crazy powerful tanks" in the right hands, in this game. However, it's not about it being "Crazy powerful," it's the style of play I enjoy. For example, I own the Object 430U, and the Lynx and I don't like them, because I don't like there play style (These are the most hated tanks in the game and arty lol). I did a search on google, and found one link on reddit that asked for the progetto 65 to be nerfed, and most on the sub-reddit said the tank was underwhelming (This post was from one year ago). So, show me somewhere on the internet that people are complaining about this tank, and I'll let it go. Also, yes Nerat_Kirine losing the gun rammer, and the other planned nerf's, well greatly effect this tank. I bet if WG removed a rammer from one of your tanks, you would be up in arms about it. If you say otherwise, I'm not sure I buy it.   

Edited by Ridgerunner20, May 29 2020 - 20:06.


Ridgerunner20 #29 Posted May 29 2020 - 19:37

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Also, side note. I started playing the T6 (low tier M4), and that tank is very OP. The 105 derp at tier 4. What the hell was WG thinking?

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View Postteamoldmill, on May 29 2020 - 02:36, said:


So you like crazy powerful tanks. Nothing wrong with that. But you really can't see balance issues? You know how many tanks, German ones in particular, will still be worlds behind the P 65 even after the nerf? Goodness.


You clearly haven't researched this past what you feel the gap between the P65 and other tanks is.  It's not far more effective than the e50m, at least on NA when you consider the population as a whole.

 

It's only when you look at the tank curves that you can see where this tank excels...which is in the hands of above average players.  average or below players have more negative outcomes...above average seem to have more positive outcomes.

 

 

The tank is quite flexible, along with a high skill ceiling, that likely contributes to it's popularity on other servers.  This nerf does in fact appear to be about reducing the amount of them in battle(as others have hypothesized on RU), as it doesn't really make sense to be nerfing a tank that's in the middle of pack, so to speak.  Consider what will happen to the average and below players on that tank curve if it's effectiveness is reduced to flatten out above average players' performance.   Making decent tanks less interesting to play doesn't make tanks that are already under-performing more interesting to play. 






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