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Stinger63 #1 Posted May 25 2020 - 07:20

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I've been playing this game longer than most and believe I have enough hindsight to bring up evolutions of the game I find unacceptable:

 

  • EBRs, especially the T10 EBR 105 and to a lesser extent, the T9:  they've entirely changed the dynamics of the game and a good player or a platoon of EBRs can kill half of an opposing team in just a few minutes.  Not only are they the fastest vehicle in the game, but they can can do a lot of dmg per shot (600+ with HE), they are not held by the same ground dynamics than any other vehicles have unmatched forward and backward speeds.  In effect, the primary duty of a pub team is to kill the enemy EBRs asap, while the other team gets into position. Of course, the best players usually wait until enemy tanks are diminished enough and spread across the map to run in and kill 4-5-6 HVs and arties in a couple minutes.  It's become stupid and is unacceptable.

 

  • Covid brought in a significant influx of new players.  Great for WoT!  But it has brought huge variations in skills regardless of the tier level.  Seeing a player with less than 3k battles playing T10 tanks is really frustrating because they have no situational awareness, no idea how to dmg most tanks, how to position themselves, etc.  They play, they die within 2-3 minutes, end of story.  Of course there are plenty of bad players with many hours of gaming (like me) but the mistakes are usually very different from those with little experience, who could be good players but just don't know better.  WoT should create a progressive promotion to the next tier based on number of completed battles (including access to promo tanks).  Half a team of players with less than 5k battles in a T10 battle is unacceptable.


Xeraux_TV #2 Posted May 25 2020 - 07:26

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Let's not pretend anyone picked up this game because of COVID and is now rocking a tier 10. 

lordsheen #3 Posted May 25 2020 - 07:30

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I disagree with what you've said about EBRs. They're actually pretty easy to kill and I think they need a buff. I agree that there are a lot of unskilled players in random battles and not having a challenge can be frustrating, but you can do some clan battles and about every tenth team you face will pose a challenge.



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lol okay bro, I'm sure tens of thousands of new but bad players managed to get themselves to tier 10 in under three months. Maybe you're just wrong on this one.

700k exp for a whole line / average 300 exp a battle is still 2.3k battles. Sure there's boosters and other stuff, but you're assuming they don't even know how to navigate the UI let alone know they you can set special ammo as their default ammunition.

As for EBRs, WoT has changed in the past and it will change again in the future, why are EBRs any different?

Tamagakure #5 Posted May 25 2020 - 09:11

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Reward tank ebr meta breaks the game, change my mind.

Festung #6 Posted May 25 2020 - 09:13

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Heard this before - different lyrics to the same song that WG doesn't listen to. :popcorn:

KaiserWilhelmShatner #7 Posted May 25 2020 - 11:00

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WG listened to our complaints about wheelies.  That is why they are nerfing the Spaghetti tier 10. :trollface:

fallenlamb #8 Posted May 25 2020 - 11:26

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View PostXeraux_TV, on May 25 2020 - 01:26, said:

Let's not pretend anyone picked up this game because of COVID and is now rocking a tier 10. 

And yet... they are.

 

They are either VERY bored noobs or rerolls, but I have run across entirely too many sub 2000 game players in T10 vehicles.


Edited by fallenlamb, May 25 2020 - 11:27.


I_QQ_4_U #9 Posted May 25 2020 - 11:38

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I doubt most are new players, more likely old players that have either come back or rerolls because they are sitting at home with nothing to do. I've seen some low battle count players at tier 8+ as well but if they are not in a premium they are often platooned with a player with a lot more battles so who knows, bored relative of an existing player?

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View Postlordsheen, on May 25 2020 - 07:30, said:

I disagree with what you've said about EBRs. They're actually pretty easy to kill and I think they need a buff.

 

 

Anyone who says this needs to walk into a 5' doorway blindfolded.



_W_R_A_I_T_H_ #11 Posted May 25 2020 - 12:09

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View PostXeraux_TV, on May 25 2020 - 07:26, said:

Let's not pretend anyone picked up this game because of COVID and is now rocking a tier 10. 

 

You are wrong.  You can go straight to tier 6 and with boosters and X5's the grind to tier 10 now is nothing.  I did the last 3 on-tracks and it takes maybe 50 games now to grind from tier 9 to 10, not 150, 50. 

 

Let me check.  This is all the games it took me to grind to the tier 10 playing the double, then the X5 every day and when doubled is HUGE, and a 100% booster.

 

41 games in the 704

34 in the 50TP

69 in the Standard B 

 

You can ck my stats.  These are all the games I have on these tanks and I have the tier 10 in the garage.  I have not played the tier 10's yet, because I don't play tier 10, so I don't know if they show up.  I will play one game in them next week just so they show up.  I have 8 or 9 tier 10's I have never played.  


Edited by _W_R_A_I_T_H_, May 25 2020 - 12:20.


_W_R_A_I_T_H_ #12 Posted May 25 2020 - 12:10

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WG is going to NERF wheelies.  They have already said that they are dealing far to much damage.  

E7GriffinWG #13 Posted May 25 2020 - 12:15

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View PostXeraux_TV, on May 25 2020 - 01:26, said:

Let's not pretend anyone picked up this game because of COVID and is now rocking a tier 10. 

Hmm I been playing 6 months now, have almost 6 tier 10's....but this week should have  ru tier 10 light in less then a week.

Im not a great player though...I prefer to just play lights and mediums



War__Pickle #14 Posted May 25 2020 - 12:19

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EBR's Meh. Just gives me a chance to hone my targeting skills ;)  My tanks are not real if they explode so be it, I move on and fight again, lol.

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View PostE7GriffinWG, on May 25 2020 - 12:15, said:

Hmm I been playing 6 months now, have almost 6 tier 10's....but this week should have  ru tier 10 light in less then a week.

Im not a great player though...I prefer to just play lights and mediums

 

The German tier 10 light is one of the worst tanks in the game, BTW.  



jeb2 #16 Posted May 25 2020 - 13:18

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Wheelies, esp all the EBRs, make the game not fun for all other players.

 

An OP tank that obeys the same physics and uses the same mechanics as others is one thing, an entire line of vehicles that gain an OP status by physics and mechanics all others do not have is simply oppressive. 



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View PostStinger63, on May 25 2020 - 01:20, said:

I've been playing this game longer than most and believe I have enough hindsight to bring up evolutions of the game I find unacceptable:

 

Funny. Years and years later and it's the same whine, different day.

 

Unacceptable? Door's thattaway. No need to announce your departure, or when, or why.

 

Me, I think the game is better than it has ever been, and not by a little bit.



ArmorStorm #18 Posted May 25 2020 - 13:39

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View PostXeraux_TV, on May 25 2020 - 00:26, said:

Let's not pretend anyone picked up this game because of COVID and is now rocking a tier 10. 

Oh, they are out there.  Boosters, bonus xp weekends, economic stimulus checks...it doesn't take much to get to tier 10 anymore.



crwilson12 #19 Posted May 25 2020 - 14:00

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im not even good atall but got my first tier x the Maus in 8 days?

 


Edited by crwilson12, May 25 2020 - 14:04.


FrontenacDuVandoo #20 Posted May 25 2020 - 15:03

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View Post_W_R_A_I_T_H_, on May 25 2020 - 06:09, said:

 

You are wrong.  You can go straight to tier 6 and with boosters and X5's the grind to tier 10 now is nothing.  I did the last 3 on-tracks and it takes maybe 50 games now to grind from tier 9 to 10, not 150, 50. 

 

Let me check.  This is all the games it took me to grind to the tier 10 playing the double, then the X5 every day and when doubled is HUGE, and a 100% booster.

 

41 games in the 704

34 in the 50TP

69 in the Standard B 

 

You can ck my stats.  These are all the games I have on these tanks and I have the tier 10 in the garage.  I have not played the tier 10's yet, because I don't play tier 10, so I don't know if they show up.  I will play one game in them next week just so they show up.  I have 8 or 9 tier 10's I have never played.  

Dude, you're a super unicum. Of course you can get to tier X in a very short amount of time.

 

A below average player [defined as lower than 48% WR / under 650 WN8] will take a lot more time to get to tier 10.

 

View Postcrwilson12, on May 25 2020 - 08:00, said:

im not even good atall but got my first tier x the Maus in 8 days?

 


Your recent WN8 is blue. That means you are better than 95% of the player base. You are very good, by definition of the WN8 stats.


Edited by FrontenacDuVandoo, May 25 2020 - 15:05.





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