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Nerf Arty Scouts EBR Chieftain OBJ279 blacklist

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Poll: This Tank needs to be Nerfed first! (87 members have cast votes)

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Which tank would you say needs to be nerfed 1st before any other?

  1. T95/4201 Chieftan (26 votes [29.89%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 29.89%

  2. Obj 279 (11 votes [12.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.64%

  3. EBR 105 (46 votes [52.87%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 52.87%

  4. Progetto M40 mod 65 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Obj 430U (4 votes [4.60%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.60%

What the Maximum Artillery tanks that should be allowed per side in a PUG?

  1. 3 (9 votes [10.34%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.34%

  2. 2 (45 votes [51.72%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 51.72%

  3. 1 (23 votes [26.44%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 26.44%

  4. 0 (send arty players to World of Warships) (10 votes [11.49%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.49%

Should their be a limit on Scout tanks Tier 7 and up in PUBs?

  1. Yes (27 votes [31.03%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 31.03%

  2. No (25 votes [28.74%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.74%

  3. Yes only 5 (3 votes [3.45%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.45%

  4. Yes only 4 (7 votes [8.05%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.05%

  5. Yes only 3 (25 votes [28.74%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.74%

Should Heavy Tanks have better base view ranges than Scouts and Mediums of the same Tier?

  1. Yes (6 votes [6.82%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.82%

  2. No (64 votes [72.73%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 72.73%

  3. Don't Care (18 votes [20.45%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.45%

When you Blacklist a player, would you like the ability to leave a note on that player to yourself in game on why you blacklisted them?(reminder)

  1. Yes (62 votes [71.26%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 71.26%

  2. No (25 votes [28.74%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.74%

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Capt_Buss #1 Posted Jun 02 2020 - 23:22

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I put up a poll before, but a tanker asked me to not group tanks to be nerfed. Just a list. Added some other questions for discussion.  The last question was an idea. I blacklist a good bit of players for various reasons. (so do many others) However, many times when we are toon'd up we forget why we blacklisted a player. Thought a reminder note to be a good idea. 

rockbutcher #2 Posted Jun 02 2020 - 23:40

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With regards to the blacklist; I would really like to see a 'last game played' next to the name in the list so I can delete folks that are no longer playing the game.

dominator_OwO #3 Posted Jun 02 2020 - 23:42

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I'd like to address the arty question in particular. If you voted 3, you think arty is fine, ok whatever that's your opinion I guess. If you voted 1-2 you must think arty is an issue. Pro tip: you'll still hate arty as long as there's one of them, and further reducing the number is a band-aid solution.

InappropriateHandHolding #4 Posted Jun 02 2020 - 23:46

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Chief and 279 I personally don't think need a nerf.  Now now hear me out.  The chief is only good in 1 situation when its hull down the only advantage it has over the sconq is speed and for that it loses gun handeling and dpm.  As for the 279 you can pen it fairly easy if you are above it face hugging it or are just a tier 10 ts with gold.  The ebr I do think it needs a tweak personally I think it should get more pen but worse gun handling but.  Also a buff to other lts because if you want them to be viable give them 420-440 BASE view range so that way they will out spot a ebr and camping TDs.

AllieOop2 #5 Posted Jun 03 2020 - 00:02

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10 years and I have no one on my blacklist.

 

So far as nerfs none that desperately need it but a few that need to be updated ASAP.


Edited by AllieOop2, Jun 03 2020 - 00:03.


Christojojo #6 Posted Jun 03 2020 - 00:31

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I won't vote in your pole because there is the maximum amount of arty on your poll. (seriously see if others want more) Until then it is an anti-arty biased poll.

As far as the nerfs. My solution is to ignore the tier X battles unless I am trying to complete my tier 9s. I agree with Rockbutcher and DOminator about the blacklist. It is useless for long term blacklists after ten years of tking teammates trolls and well arrogant jerks.



Xeraux_TV #7 Posted Jun 03 2020 - 01:43

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None of the reward tanks need to be nerfed, they just need to be banned from competitive along with wheelies.

Cowcat137 #8 Posted Jun 03 2020 - 01:45

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EBR 105 gets my vote, not because they wreck me (they do), but because I've seen them destroy talented players in (what used to be) powerful tanks.

Acme1970 #9 Posted Jun 03 2020 - 02:59

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I'd to submit a write-in vote for the Obj 268 4, i would definitely nerf that, give it a nice thin lower plate for starters

Vulcan_Spectre #10 Posted Jun 03 2020 - 03:56

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View PostAcme1970, on Jun 02 2020 - 20:59, said:

I'd to submit a write-in vote for the Obj 268 4, i would definitely nerf that, give it a nice thin lower plate for starters

it, along with the 279e are easy to pen, opposed to the cheiften

 



Hornet_Legion #11 Posted Jun 03 2020 - 04:29

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kind of dum to have light tanks and wheelies that are able to destroy super heavies from the front. they should have never opened up higher tiers for light tanks, or at least not give them the firepower they have. 

 

a 105mm high explosive with 105 mm penetration is just one example. that means that the round has more penetration than a 170 mm gun from a tier 10 german TD with high explosive.



Rabbitlover2017 #12 Posted Jun 03 2020 - 18:56

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279e and cheftain arent an issue because of how few of them there are. You see one maybe 1 in 5 battles in pub matches. Ebrs are the largest issue because you see them almost every game. They make passive spotting useless because allied ebrs will steal all the spots, and enemy ebrs can run around exposing all the passive spotters. They also have near immunity to HE rounds, and as long as they make unpredictable movements they are very hard to hit even for experienced players.

Capt_Buss #13 Posted Jun 03 2020 - 20:39

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The 268-4 was nerfed already.  I had someone argue that a tracked light tank that gets hit in the side is usally tracked and stopped on a dime. The wheelies keep going and a flat tire barely even slows them down. A nerf would be to change how slow they get once they get hit once. Maybe that would be a good pole question. The best way to nerf the EBR's?

 



Cricketer #14 Posted Jun 03 2020 - 20:52

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WG's official stance is that they'll keep the arty limit at 3, because that gives MM room for battles with 0, 1, 2, and 3 battles. If they made it 2, you'd see 2 arty in every battle.

As for scouts, I think that would be great. For a TD a game with no scouts is rough, for scouts a game with 5 other lights splitting your assistance damage is annoying.

Rabbitlover2017 #15 Posted Jun 03 2020 - 21:39

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View PostCapt_Buss, on Jun 03 2020 - 20:39, said:

The 268-4 was nerfed already.  I had someone argue that a tracked light tank that gets hit in the side is usally tracked and stopped on a dime. The wheelies keep going and a flat tire barely even slows them down. A nerf would be to change how slow they get once they get hit once. Maybe that would be a good pole question. The best way to nerf the EBR's?

 

How to nerf them? Give them a massively reduced hp pool to punish them more for running out into enemy vehicles and disallow them from out brawling other lights. Make it so that a single hit to the wheels causes a serious disruption that, if not quickly repaired, has a major impact on the manueverability. Further decrease the view range by a tweak to prevent insta-spotting the whole enemy team on smaller maps. 

 

Their on the move camo and accuracy, combined with insane speeds already gives them everything they need. Lowering the HP pool rewards players who are able to hit a shot on them, and forces them to keep their distance in an engagement rather than the current situation where they can just drive around wherever they please. Making the wheel damage more significant punishes wheelies for exposing themselves and rewards players who hit them in th wheels. Decreasibg view range keeps other light tanks competitive.







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