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KRZYBooP #1 Posted Aug 07 2020 - 14:47

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Howdy Boom Jockeys!

 

We are continuing our rebalancing of high-tier vehicles. Next in line are branches of German and Chinese medium tanks, as well as the Soviet Object 140.

Of the two German Tier X MTs, the E-50M is the more protected and durable one. Due to its frontal armor, the vehicle is somewhat like a heavy tank. Nevertheless, the thickness of the turret's frontal armor plate is insufficient to repel shots from high-tier opponents. We plan on improving the protection of this area by increasing the thickness of the turret's effective armor from 197 to 266 mm.

Other vehicles of the branch will be improved as well:

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E50M:

  • Increased the effective armor of the turret's frontal armor plate from 197 to 266 mm
  • 10,5 cm Kw.K. L/52 Ausf. gun
    •  Increased the penetration value of a standard shell from 220 to 230 mm
  • 8,8 cm Kw.K. L/100 gun
    • Increased the damage value from 240 to 280 HP

Panther II:

  • 8,8 cm Kw.K. L/100 gun
    • Increased the damage value from 240 to 280 HP

Panther 8.8:

  • Increased the damage value from 240 to 280 HP

The Chinese medium tank branch will receive a wide array of improvements to a number of technical characteristics affecting both survivability and firepower. These changes should make these vehicles more competitive compared to other, newer tanks.

 

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121:

  • Increased the effective armor of the upper glacis plate from 240 to 270 mm  
  • Increased the penetration value of a standard shell from 258 to 262 mm
  • Increased vehicle durability from 1,950 to 2,050 HP
  • Increased engine power from 580 to 650 h.p.
  • Changed shell velocity from 1,000/1,000/1,000 to 1,115/907/907 mps

WZ-120:

  • Increased vehicle durability from 1,650 to 1,750 HP
  • Changed the dispersion on turret traverse from 0.16 to 0.14
  • Changed the top speed from 56 to 60 km/h
  • 122 mm 60-122T gun
    • Changed the reload time from 12 to 11 s
    • Changed shell velocity from 950/950/950 to 800/640/800 mps

 

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Т-34-2:

  • Increased the effective armor of the upper glacis plate from 140 to 200 mm
  • Changed vehicle durability from 1,300  to 1,400 HP
  • 122 mm 37-122JT gun 
    • Changed damage from 390 to 360 HP
    • Changed the reload time from 15 to 12 s
    • Changed accuracy from 0.48 to 0.44
    • Changed the aiming time from 3.1 to 2.9 s
  • 100 mm 44-100JT gun
    • Changed accuracy from 0.42 to 0.4
    • Changed the reload time from 9.1 to 8.1 s
    • Changed the aiming time from 2.9 to 2.7 s

 Т-34-1:

  • 100 mm 44-100JT gun
    • Changed accuracy from 0.42 to 0.4
    • Changed the reload time from 9.3 to 8.3 s
    • Changed the aiming time from 2.9 to 2.7 s
  • Changed the dispersion on turret traverse from 0.16 to 0.14
  • Increased vehicle durability from 1,050 to 1,150 HP

The Object 140 is essentially a well-balanced vehicle, but it will also benefit from slight improvements in firing comfort and survivability. Its gun depression angles will be increased from -6 to -7 degrees, and the armor thickness of the frontal glacis plate will be increased to 260 mm instead of 237 mm. Thanks to these tweaks, the Object 140 will  more confidently withstand attacks from other tier X vehicles and will perform more aggressively on the battlefield.

 

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Note that these technical characteristics are not final and can be changed.


Edited by KRZYBooP, Aug 07 2020 - 17:08.


gpc_4 #2 Posted Aug 07 2020 - 14:57

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Lol, 140 buffs.

AndrewSledge #3 Posted Aug 07 2020 - 14:59

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You need to go back and give the OBJ 430U 30mm of maximum armor and a top speed of 5km.

SlyGambit #4 Posted Aug 07 2020 - 15:25

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View Postgpc_4, on Aug 07 2020 - 08:57, said:

Lol, 140 buffs.

Makes sense if you read it in Cyrillic.  Can't wait to see how they buff the 260 and IS-7 next.



Buttknuckle #5 Posted Aug 07 2020 - 15:38

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Honestly surprised they didnt give the 140 an auto reloader, that can mount a rammer.

Cowcat137 #6 Posted Aug 07 2020 - 15:39

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At last the 140 buffs we've all cried for!

Meanwhile Panthers are still tier sixes who got over promoted.



FrozenKemp #7 Posted Aug 07 2020 - 15:51

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The text says "E 50" (tier 9) and the screenshot says "E 50M" (tier 10). 

 

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Vulcan_Spectre #8 Posted Aug 07 2020 - 15:59

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when will wg look at the 30b

SteelShootgun55 #9 Posted Aug 07 2020 - 16:06

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Why buff the 140?  Everything else looks decent though.

LOD_Eclipso #10 Posted Aug 07 2020 - 16:13

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nvm

 

 

 

 

 



Subject_of_Pain #11 Posted Aug 07 2020 - 16:22

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Buffing E50 & E50M? 'Bout time. The Chinese tank buffs are cool but, SLOWING THE SHELL VELOCITY  DOWN IS STUPID AND BAD. SHELL VELOCITY IS FINE. TELL THE DEVS NOT TO SLOW DOWN THE SHELLS BOOP.

Firemoth #12 Posted Aug 07 2020 - 16:36

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140 with -7 gun dep makes sense.

candymonster1953 #13 Posted Aug 07 2020 - 16:48

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"""""""the 140 is balanced"""""""

*proceeds to buff it anyways*

ok weegee



SpectreHD #14 Posted Aug 07 2020 - 16:50

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Hmm... I always did feel the E-50s turret front should be the same thickness as the (pre-buffed) E-75.

 

If only WG would freaking nerf the hell out of premium ammo we wouldn't need all this overarmouring. All it does is make people more inclined to spam that broken former pay to win mechanic making any armour buffs near redundant.


Edited by SpectreHD, Aug 07 2020 - 21:50.


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140 buff.... meanwhile the T-62a sits forgotten



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These changes all seem good and well-deserved, except the 140. I have a 140, and it's absolutely fine. I don't think it really needs a buff..

Cowcat137 #17 Posted Aug 07 2020 - 19:10

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Did they cut a hole in the 140's roof to allow the breech to stick out? Those sleek low turrets are only possible with limited elevation and depression. 

In real life that is.  This is Russian science fiction.

 


Edited by Cowcat137, Aug 09 2020 - 04:16.


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View PostFrozenKemp, on Aug 07 2020 - 07:51, said:

The text says "E 50" (tier 9) and the screenshot says "E 50M" (tier 10). 

 

:unsure:

 

Yes the text should have said E 50... the E 50 M is only getting armor buffs... while the E 50 is getting penetration buffs and armor buffs.

 

 

EDIT: Oh and the Obj. 140 doesnt need buffs. You guys be cray cray.


Edited by Avalon304, Aug 08 2020 - 12:27.


Tahllol #19 Posted Aug 10 2020 - 14:15

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More fake BS for Russian tanks, the 140 will now have Heavy levels of armor? Give me a break it is a Medium and not a heavy. Keep buffing your already fake Russian tanks to appeal to your Russian server while the others all leave and say piss off to your fake Russian biased Game.

DerWeasel7 #20 Posted Aug 12 2020 - 00:05

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Т-34-2:

  • Increased the effective armor of the upper glacis plate from 140 to 200 mm
  • Changed vehicle durability from 1,300  to 1,400 HP
  • 122 mm 37-122JT gun 
    • Changed damage from 390 to 360 HP
    • Changed the reload time from 15 to 12 s
    • Changed accuracy from 0.48 to 0.44
    • Changed the aiming time from 3.1 to 2.9 s
  • 100 mm 44-100JT gun
    • Changed accuracy from 0.42 to 0.4
    • Changed the reload time from 9.1 to 8.1 s
    • Changed the aiming time from 2.9 to 2.7 s

 

So, these proposed changes for the T-34-2?

Yeah, they're not really gonna do much to help the tank. Buffing the 44-100JT, instead of the 59-100T, still leaves the tank as being inferior to the Type 59, and the changes to the 122mm gun will just leave it as a worse version of the T-34-3.

Best thing to do would be to remove the 85mm S-53 from the tank, move the 44-100JT so it can be used on the stock turret with similar stats in its current form, and maybe bring the 100mm 60-100T from the WZ-120 to help give the tank a bit more firepower, along with making the grind through the WZ-120 a little easier.

 

Could maybe give the Type 58 some love while you're at it. It worked fine five years ago, but now? It's been powercreeped pretty hard past couple years, what with more tanks being put in that get higher alpha damage, better penetration and comparable mobility, and all the over-armored monstrosities waddling about. Only thing I would do is change the 85mm 56-85JT penetration from 128/172/43 to 130/178/43.






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