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rockbutcher #1 Posted Sep 16 2020 - 04:18

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Sick and tired of the pubbie blowouts both ways, I figured I'd head down to SA today to get my dailies and a head start on TR before skirms started.  Took my PZ B2 out for 3, DW 2 for 2 and T 28 w/ F30 out for one.  Did really well of course given the crowd, but not nearly as well as tanks.gg says I did.  Thinking of starting a new clan.  All players with less than 10k WN8 need not apply.

 

Wotlabs says 5463 which seems more realistic given the circumstances.

 



PTwr #2 Posted Sep 16 2020 - 08:59

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Low tier HP buff causes that. Neither WNwhatever, nor XP formula were updated to deal with it. 

You can now easily do 2k+ dmg in tier 4 trash, while previously you'd run out of enemies after 1k.



DrWho_ #3 Posted Sep 16 2020 - 12:35

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In addition some tanks aren't showing correct tiers in tanks.gg these days leading to really funky scores. A few weeks ago my avg tier for that day was 11.8 or something, then the other day I was well below 5, probably because I played the heck out of my A46 alongside some tier 8 LTs

Blackstone #4 Posted Sep 16 2020 - 12:41

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View Postrockbutcher, on Sep 15 2020 - 22:18, said:

Sick and tired of the pubbie blowouts both ways, I figured I'd head down to SA today to get my dailies and a head start on TR before skirms started.  Took my PZ B2 out for 3, DW 2 for 2 and T 28 w/ F30 out for one.  Did really well of course given the crowd, but not nearly as well as tanks.gg says I did.  Thinking of starting a new clan.  All players with less than 10k WN8 need not apply.

 

Wotlabs says 5463 which seems more realistic given the circumstances.

 

...and you have an overall WR% of 48.2%.

Why would I join a clan who has a leader that has a lower win % than me? 



NateRocko #5 Posted Sep 16 2020 - 12:51

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View PostBlackstone, on Sep 16 2020 - 06:41, said:

...and you have an overall WR% of 48.2%.

Why would I join a clan who has a leader that has a lower win % than me? 

WR isn't a good measure of skill. I've seen 60% players do 0 and 40% players do a 4k carry. Just because your average WR is 40% doesn't mean your performance will always reflect it. If you're constantly looking to improve your individual battle performance, WR won't show that.



DrWho_ #6 Posted Sep 16 2020 - 13:22

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View PostBlackstone, on Sep 16 2020 - 12:41, said:

...and you have an overall WR% of 48.2%.

Why would I join a clan who has a leader that has a lower win % than me? 

 

Because he has a sense of humour ?



Blackstone #7 Posted Sep 16 2020 - 13:30

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View PostNateRocko, on Sep 16 2020 - 06:51, said:

WR isn't a good measure of skill. I've seen 60% players do 0 and 40% players do a 4k carry. Just because your average WR is 40% doesn't mean your performance will always reflect it. If you're constantly looking to improve your individual battle performance, WR won't show that.

Completely incorrect. WR% DOES show your skill and ability to carry a team. if there is a trend over time that shows your WR% is going up, that tells me you as a player are improving. You're contributing to the team to make more wins, like doing more damage, playing to the strengths of your tank, etc.

 



Blackstone #8 Posted Sep 16 2020 - 13:33

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View PostDrWho_, on Sep 16 2020 - 07:22, said:

 

Because he has a sense of humour ?

He'd have to...



NateRocko #9 Posted Sep 16 2020 - 13:35

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View PostBlackstone, on Sep 16 2020 - 07:30, said:

Completely incorrect. WR% DOES show your skill and ability to carry a team. if there is a trend over time that shows your WR% is going up, that tells me you as a player are improving. You're contributing to the team to make more wins, like doing more damage, playing to the strengths of your tank, etc.

 

I'd say yes, generally speaking WR will show improvement, but it still isn't a perfect measure of how a player is doing. It's why we have things like WN8.



Blackstone #10 Posted Sep 16 2020 - 13:40

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View PostNateRocko, on Sep 16 2020 - 07:35, said:

I'd say yes, generally speaking WR will show improvement, but it still isn't a perfect measure of how a player is doing. It's why we have things like WN8.

WR% and WN8 are both indicators of player skill. I can agree upon that.



XturbohawkX #11 Posted Sep 16 2020 - 14:00

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WR% is purely a team stat. Unless you are killing 7+ EVERY battle you are dependent on your team to win. Funny how basic math eludes people on this forum.

Edited by XturbohawkX, Sep 16 2020 - 14:00.


Kliphie #12 Posted Sep 16 2020 - 14:16

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View PostXturbohawkX, on Sep 16 2020 - 08:00, said:

WR% is purely a team stat. Unless you are killing 7+ EVERY battle you are dependent on your team to win. Funny how basic math eludes people on this forum.

 

And over the long run, say 30k games, we all get the same aggregate teams.  Thus the individual's contribution is exposed.  It's statics so it's easy to see how that eludes some.  



Blackstone #13 Posted Sep 16 2020 - 16:13

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oh goody, the math dorks showed up....

rockbutcher #14 Posted Sep 16 2020 - 17:48

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View PostBlackstone, on Sep 16 2020 - 07:41, said:

...and you have an overall WR% of 48.2%.

Why would I join a clan who has a leader that has a lower win % than me? 

You wouldn't qualify anyway since A.) Your WN8 is too low and B.) you have no sense of ha-ha's.

 

It was a tongue in cheek comment that flew right past you.



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View PostXturbohawkX, on Sep 16 2020 - 14:00, said:

Funny how basic math eludes people on this forum.

 

Irony ?






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