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NateRocko #21 Posted Oct 01 2020 - 15:56

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View Postez_money, on Oct 01 2020 - 09:55, said:

Hmmm...didn't know that (haven't looked at the T77 in detail since I don't like autoloaders because I suck at them). But I would still say the C45 is more OP-ish with the improved autoreloader system. We'll just have to wait and see the final product that gets introduced into the game.

Definitely true. We really will not know how good or how bad these will be until they come. 



SteelRonin #22 Posted Oct 01 2020 - 15:59

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Improved Autoreloader > Autorealoader > Reloader > Normal loader......The powercreep is too much

Gothraul #23 Posted Oct 01 2020 - 16:14

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Excited for this line and hope the tier 8 premium is up for marathon.

Flakker2 #24 Posted Oct 01 2020 - 16:18

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View PostSteelRonin, on Oct 01 2020 - 09:59, said:

Improved Autoreloader > Autorealoader > Reloader > Normal loader......The powercreep is too much


Plus, you have 2 types of autoreloaders, ones that have longer reloads for the first shell or the last.



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View PostFlakker2, on Oct 01 2020 - 12:18, said:


Plus, you have 2 types of autoreloaders, ones that have longer reloads for the first shell or the last.

 

That is why I put the "Improved Autoreloader".

 

We all know WG does not care about balance, even when they say in their videos that they do. From all the ideas of new mechanics, the best thing that came to their minds was to improve one of the current mechanics and powercreep the other ones...

 

New tanks are always welcome, but the powercreep they bring makes them hateful, except for the players that abuse new mechanics to improve their stats. We already know these italians won't change the meta, or the CWs meta, the powercreep shines in random battles.

 

So, I am trying to figure out what WG wants, Do they want to make the game more dynamic?, I believe the powercreep is not the answer, the answer for that is to improve the maps, new permanent game modes, an overhaul to random battles......but...What would be next?, 2 barreled tanks with autorealoader as a new mechanic?....nah..



Michael_200061 #26 Posted Oct 01 2020 - 17:15

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disappointed the branch start from 7 not 6, I always love tier 6 tanks. 

jokes aside, they seem pretty cool, but the improve auto realoder....hmmm

isn't the way of balance them in the first place was their meh DPM and overall reload?

wouldn't this make this feature irrelevant thus a bit, too strong? 



Kliphie #27 Posted Oct 01 2020 - 17:17

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Time to start grinding up some XP on the 43.bis

Mancu #28 Posted Oct 01 2020 - 17:18

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View PostNateRocko, on Oct 01 2020 - 09:49, said:

Well considering the T77 can do the same thing in 4 seconds I'd say it's pretty balanced. 


Except that the T77 is an clip loader that has a massively long reload time and this tank has no such penalty. Additionally, it appears that this tank will be faster and have more armor than the T77.



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View PostRedcoat, on Oct 01 2020 - 06:51, said:

The whole line looks cool and the T8 Premium looks like it will be a must-have along with it's medium brother...  They could shake up the current "best of" lineups, for sure... I wonder if the the Premium will be a part of Xmas boxes?

Yup.... this T8 will ring the WoT cash-register like the Defender and Skorpion.  



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The Tier 8 Premium has some crazy levels of spaced armor all around the turret and hull.  

BingBattaBoom #31 Posted Oct 01 2020 - 18:48

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View PostMancu, on Oct 01 2020 - 08:26, said:

Just more power creep to get people to spend money on racing up a new line and buying a new premium.

And the game moves on like it should, or would you prefer a stagnate game that never advances?



Mancu #32 Posted Oct 01 2020 - 18:55

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View PostBingBattaBoom, on Oct 01 2020 - 12:48, said:

And the game moves on like it should, or would you prefer a stagnate game that never advances?


There are many ways to keep the game fresh without blatant cash grabs. New maps, new game modes, new 3D skins, etc. all keep players interested without unbalancing the game.



Acme1970 #33 Posted Oct 01 2020 - 19:05

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I really didn't care about the Polish mediums when they came out but I'm actually intrigued by these new Italian vehicles (maybe because they're heavies?), the tier IX looks nice and i would probably go to that one and stop, i just pray that they get them right before release, we don't need a repeat of the Progetto debacle a while back:facepalm:.

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View PostSteelRonin, on Oct 01 2020 - 11:00, said:

 

That is why I put the "Improved Autoreloader".

 

No, that is something new for the Italian heavies. It is different than the 2 other flavors of autoreloaders that we have currently in the game.



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Q.  New Italian Heavy tanks - What do you think?

A.  WarGimmick autoloaders are a gimmick, there are no tanks driving around with a clip of ammo.  Autoloaders are single shot, just like a human loaded tank.

 

 



G_MAN_Joe #36 Posted Oct 01 2020 - 22:21

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View Postdarkshadow12321, on Oct 01 2020 - 07:41, said:

So about 14 minutes ago, World of tanks released a video showing the five new Italian heavy tanks coming into the game coming off the P.43 Bis (https://youtu.be/FrJ_R8Kquho

 

- (ill probably get these wrong, they haven't released proper names, only speech from the video) 

Tier 7: Carro Decalto P.88 (Normal Reload)

 

Tier 8: Progetto CC55 Mod.54 (Normal Reload)

 

Tier 8 (Premium): Progetto C45 (Autoreloader)

 

Tier 9: Progetto C50 (Autoreloader)

 

Tier 10: Rinoceronte (Autoreloader)

 

These tanks all feature a new addition to the Autoreloader, a special mechanic where if you are loading a shell and you already have 1 shell loaded, if you fire it will take half your time off the next shell loaded to compensate the time wasted loading a shell and firing just before it reloads.i, personally really like this idea and hope its added to the already existing italian mediums. these tanks look like a very balanced, and enjoyable addition to the game, and will give a unusual experience as these heavy tanks are extremely fast and smaller than usual. we have been asking for these to be implemented for a while, and they announced them almost a year ago. What do you guys think about these unique type of heavy tanks?
 


Saving free Xp now so I don't have to regrind the other tanks.



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View PostDeputy276, on Oct 01 2020 - 09:51, said:

Yep..."designed by Luigi in the crapper" tanks. If you believe all that hogwash WG spews out about "blueprints of prototypes",  then I have some bridges for sale in New York that are really great deals. If the dang thing wasn't put into production and issued to the troops, then it's just a WG fantasy to make more $$ off of us. And with those autoloaders, it dang sure better be gimped HEAVILY somewhere else, or a hue and cry for nerfing will be raised. If you are considering going down this line, I would suggest waiting a few months before doing so. If these things just turn out to be "meh", then no biggie. But if they turn out to be OP supertanks, then expect the nerfhammer to hit them hard. 

 

If you old farts had it your way we'd all be slap fighting each other in shermans and tigers for ten years. I wish wargaming would wholly make up fake tanks from the drawing board and admit they were 100% created in house. Just so I can watch you vomit up your metamucil and dump a load of prunes into your depends.

 

Fake tanks are the only thing keeping this game alive and profitable. No one wants to stare at the [edited]end of a T-34 for ten years. If you do, go download a simulator that caters to you and leave us to enjoy new vehicles



Bacillus27 #38 Posted Oct 01 2020 - 22:32

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At this point, who cares anymore?  They keep pumping out new tank after new tank so we can keep playing the same old maps.   Be nice if they put as much effort into maps as they do with tanks to keep the actual game environment fresh. 


 



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View PostMancu, on Oct 01 2020 - 11:55, said:


There are many ways to keep the game fresh without blatant cash grabs. New maps, new game modes, new 3D skins, etc. all keep players interested without unbalancing the game.

Agreed.

 

View Postnoupperlobeman, on Oct 01 2020 - 15:27, said:

 

If you old farts had it your way we'd all be slap fighting each other in shermans and tigers for ten years. I wish wargaming would wholly make up fake tanks from the drawing board and admit they were 100% created in house. Just so I can watch you vomit up your metamucil and dump a load of prunes into your depends.

 

Fake tanks are the only thing keeping this game alive and profitable. No one wants to stare at the [edited]end of a T-34 for ten years. If you do, go download a simulator that caters to you and leave us to enjoy new vehicles

The problem isn't "fake" tanks. It's that WG introduces a new gimmick tank, gets their cash grab, then introduces another new gimmick tank that obsoletes previous vehicles that people paid money for. For example, does "double-barreled" ring any bells?



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If WarGaming was to delete all the "fantasy" tanks in the game, what would be left?





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