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Incoming! Vehicle Rebalance time: High tier Mediums are the Target.

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KRZYBooP #1 Posted Oct 09 2020 - 20:27

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Howdy Boom Jockeys!

 

Bringing the Armor back to the E-50's!

 

 

 

Check out more changes with the next update HERE.

 



CELOPAN326 #2 Posted Oct 09 2020 - 20:43

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hola buen día para todos para ser sincero esta muy bien las mejoras, pero al wz -120 deberían meterle una placa para el chasis ya que le hace falta 

 



Pownder #3 Posted Oct 09 2020 - 20:58

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View PostCELOPAN326, on Oct 09 2020 - 13:43, said:

hola buen día para todos para ser sincero esta muy bien las mejoras, pero al wz -120 deberían meterle una placa para el chasis ya que le hace falta 

 

 

Whatever he said...



Decriss #4 Posted Oct 09 2020 - 21:04

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Better nerf skoda t50 than lepard.

Decriss #5 Posted Oct 09 2020 - 21:04

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*Leopard pta

Einzelganger7 #6 Posted Oct 09 2020 - 21:22

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View PostPownder, on Oct 09 2020 - 13:58, said:

 

Whatever he said...


Translated (not literally) means. "Hello and good day everyone, honestly the improvements are really good, but they should put a (better) hull plate to the WZ-120 becaurse it needs it"



WIZD #7 Posted Oct 09 2020 - 21:41

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Can't spell balance without buff Russia. 

Tahllol #8 Posted Oct 09 2020 - 22:02

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LOL, balance? That would mean a nerf to Russian tanks across the board but we know they will never actually balance the tanks so the Russian tanks are META and better than every other tank with few exceptions.

Einzelganger7 #9 Posted Oct 09 2020 - 22:13

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View PostTahllol, on Oct 09 2020 - 15:02, said:

LOL, balance? That would mean a nerf to Russian tanks across the board but we know they will never actually balance the tanks so the Russian tanks are META and better than every other tank with few exceptions.


Actually, on the article itself it says the obj. 140's buff is going to be done only because it is not popular, just because of that, not because it needed it. lol



dont_ping_me #10 Posted Oct 09 2020 - 22:36

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I'm disappointed you did not give the T-34-3 a little something extra too.

madogthefirst #11 Posted Oct 09 2020 - 23:58

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Fix the side overmatch on the E50 side hull.

Molten_Sh4dow #12 Posted Oct 10 2020 - 02:19

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I dont think the E50s needed turret front plate buff, it was iconic that it was weak on the turret, the buffs only make it resistant to lower tiers, and tier 10 standard rounds, it is still just as weak to premium rounds. However, I think it is good that the sides of the E50 and E50 Ms turret is being buffed so they wont be penetrated from the front anymore with HEAT rounds.

 

One aspect of the E50 M I am sad they overlooked is the hull armor, sure it is stronger than E50 in terms of frontal armor due to a slightly better angling on upper plate, but its side armor is still a weak 80mm of armor. Even though one of the only ways for E50M to block damage is sidescraping, the E50 at tier 9 is better at doing so due to it being a lower tier and having the turret farther back, allowing to sidescrape without exposing the side with a worse angle like the E50 M. I think that if the side armor on E50M was increased to 100mm it would become a fitting and powerful end to the heavily armored german mediums.

 

Another issue that wasn't addressed in these buffs was the fact that the E50M's ground resistances are much worse than the E50, making its supposed higher engine power irrelevant, and keeping the E50 as the better tank, tier for tier.


Edited by Molten_Sh4dow, Oct 10 2020 - 02:20.


The_Happiest_Husky #13 Posted Oct 10 2020 - 03:20

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Are they gonna buff the AMX 30 B tho? That hunk o junk needs a rework. Would be cool if they gave it default HEAT shells like the historical tank too.

coconut2011 #14 Posted Oct 10 2020 - 08:09

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View PostMolten_Sh4dow, on Oct 09 2020 - 17:19, said:

I dont think the E50s needed turret front plate buff, it was iconic that it was weak on the turret, the buffs only make it resistant to lower tiers, and tier 10 standard rounds, it is still just as weak to premium rounds. However, I think it is good that the sides of the E50 and E50 Ms turret is being buffed so they wont be penetrated from the front anymore with HEAT rounds.

 

One aspect of the E50 M I am sad they overlooked is the hull armor, sure it is stronger than E50 in terms of frontal armor due to a slightly better angling on upper plate, but its side armor is still a weak 80mm of armor. Even though one of the only ways for E50M to block damage is sidescraping, the E50 at tier 9 is better at doing so due to it being a lower tier and having the turret farther back, allowing to sidescrape without exposing the side with a worse angle like the E50 M. I think that if the side armor on E50M was increased to 100mm it would become a fitting and powerful end to the heavily armored german mediums.

 

Another issue that wasn't addressed in these buffs was the fact that the E50M's ground resistances are much worse than the E50, making its supposed higher engine power irrelevant, and keeping the E50 as the better tank, tier for tier.

 

80 is good enough.  The main issue of E50 / E50M has always been the turret armor.  For the buffed turret, at mid to long range, that turret weakspot is going to be quite difficult to hit.  Also, E50 / E50M have 8 degrees of gun depression, which is better than Russian meds.  Well, maybe this is why WG is buffing 140's gun depression.


Edited by coconut2011, Oct 10 2020 - 09:09.


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The Obj 140 is literally the only tank in my garage of ~450 vehicles that can actually shoot straight, so I just figured they were going to announce a mega accuracy nerf for it. I'm very glad they didn't.

Edited by Jaspo, Oct 10 2020 - 16:54.


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Just to throw a thought out there, I don't mind that the E50m is being buffed. But there are other ways to make high-tier mediums viable without having them all have impenetrable turrets.

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Should fix the awful stock gun situation for the t 34 2 while youre at it, stuck for about 30k xp w 126 pen....what a joke. At least let it start with the 175 from the t 34 1. 

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Happy the T-34-1 and 34-2 are getting buffs but no word on buffing the 34-2's top 100mm gun? A little disappointed all the Panther 88 gets is an alpha buff. 

 

 



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View Postnrnstraswa, on Oct 11 2020 - 09:07, said:

Happy the T-34-1 and 34-2 are getting buffs but no word on buffing the 34-2's top 100mm gun? A little disappointed all the Panther 88 gets is an alpha buff. 


It's a 16% boost to overall damage output, which is absolutely massive. Not sure it needs all that much more, otherwise it makes the Panther II rather irrelevant (I mean, more than it already is). Neither of them have enough armor to rely on, but the premium (with rammer) will be over 2800 DPM with the alpha buff, 3000+ if you run food. That's pretty nutty, especially since tier 8 matchmaking is a lot kinder than it used to be.

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P_A_N_Z_E_R #20 Posted Oct 17 2020 - 00:59

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Leopard A is already at disadvantage compared to other tier 9: Kpz 50t, Skoda, obj 430, Italian med. Patton and Centurion have bouncy turrets too with similar gun characteristics. It had only an accurate gun to offset it's disadvantages. Now it's gun will be just as terrible as Chat Future but without autoloader. Sold it as it is going to be useless now.





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