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Warador #21 Posted Nov 16 2020 - 14:12

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View PostCirran, on Nov 16 2020 - 04:55, said:

When I first started playing this game I had an absolute blast. I looked forward to getting off work and playing for several hours after my shift. I really enjoy the heck out of the game. At tier 8 or so I had a conversation with someone who played the game like their life depended on it. In an after battle communication they politely (yes politely no vitriol in our conversation) pointed out that I sucked and needed to go back to MUCH lower tiers and learn how to play. I always did my best but I was a detriment to my team. I was playing at a tier that was WAY above my ability and understanding of the game. I gave what they told me some thought and decided that I could at least try and play better. I ended up doing what they recommended, watch videos ask questions of streamers ect. You know I got up to 49.93% and discovered something. I was getting better but I was not having fun. I had taken something I was really enjoying and turned it into a job. A job that I was not getting paid for. It got to the point for me that I dreaded logging in and making myself play. I went from playing everyday after work for several hours and on weekends spending a ton of time playing to loathing the thought of clicking on the play button and now I rarely play ever. I have tons of tanks in garage and have spent a lot of money on the game over the years and find myself everyone once in the while yearning for the enjoyment I used to find with this game. 

 For what it is worth, don't do that to yourself. Play the game and keep it enjoyable, don't play to troll your team I.E. block other players, get in their way intentionally ect. Play the way you have fun, this is something I am trying to rediscover with WoT. 

 

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I am with you on this, I use to log on and just want to 'blast' things to de-stress from work.

Went from playing 20 - 30 games a night and weekend, to less than a dozen, sometimes just 1 or 2.

 

I'd rather watch streamers play than play my self...most of the time.

 

To the OP: Uninstall XVM, I still use some mods, but I don't update the XVM server. For me it's toxic, I don't want to start a game in a negative mood, because XVM tells me the game is already stacked against me.

 

 



Squeekles #22 Posted Nov 16 2020 - 14:31

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Here one is.. OP has 2524 games in the rack and already is "needing a break".  If that does not scream, "there is a problem with the system".......

 

To the OP:  I hear ya man..... I've read a lot of these type posts.  I'm starting to believe that it may not be entirely you, the OP, but rather a mix of You and the stacked deck of poor MM, RNG and all the other Coding thats in this game....

 

Manufactured Discontent - Is a hard thing to fight as a single human.....

 

Good Luck in your endeavors....


Edited by Squeekles, Nov 16 2020 - 14:32.


Rundog #23 Posted Nov 16 2020 - 14:34

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A fixation on stats does not improve enjoyment for most. Knowing the stats of teammates so you can decide right from the start how bad they might be, does not improve enjoyment.

 

I suggest removing XVM, not checking stats for a while and playing tanks you enjoy.



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well i can see the trolls are out today

crasta #25 Posted Nov 16 2020 - 17:06

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OP,

In 8k battles I have twice installed XVM.

Both times with the intent of finding better players to watch their game play.

Both times I dumped it in under 3 days.



C257_Tanks #26 Posted Nov 16 2020 - 17:54

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View PostSqueekles, on Nov 16 2020 - 07:31, said:

Here one is.. OP has 2524 games in the rack and already is "needing a break".  If that does not scream, "there is a problem with the system".......

 

To the OP:  I hear ya man..... I've read a lot of these type posts.  I'm starting to believe that it may not be entirely you, the OP, but rather a mix of You and the stacked deck of poor MM, RNG and all the other Coding thats in this game....

 

Manufactured Discontent - Is a hard thing to fight as a single human.....

 

Good Luck in your endeavors....


Thanks and yeah, I agree.  It's all of it, my lack of "in-depth" skills, MM, RNG and all of it. I'll be back, just need a "dandelion break." :)



C257_Tanks #27 Posted Nov 16 2020 - 17:55

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View Postcrasta, on Nov 16 2020 - 10:06, said:

OP,

In 8k battles I have twice installed XVM.

Both times with the intent of finding better players to watch their game play.

Both times I dumped it in under 3 days.


I'm thinking I'll go the route some have suggested - use a couple of mods but as for XVM itself, I think I should dump it.



C257_Tanks #28 Posted Nov 16 2020 - 18:00

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View Postmoon111, on Nov 15 2020 - 18:12, said:

There are 'make-it-happen' tanks, and then there's arty.  As an arty player, sometimes find myself needing to play regular tanks to get a win.  

There's only so much you're going to do as a support tank.  It's like going to a Casino and playing slots.  

 

Also, you're just a beginning player who is already closing in on 300 games at tier eight.  Slow down and smell the roses.

Some tanks I've really enjoyed like the Bishop which I could never seem to break 2,500 damage in, but came close many times.

You hit 36% win-rate and moved on as fast as possible to the FV304.  To me, that means you are completely wasting time. 

To be successful with the Bishop, you can play it different then other SPGs.  Like a lot of tanks you have to learn how to play

them.  Like the Matilda IV, it's got amazing gun depression.  If you're not playing peek-a-boo over hills and ducking back down,

then maybe you're doing it wrong.  Here's quite a few tanks I see in your garage where after a couple of dozen battles was in the same 

place with them, went back to the drawing board, and carried on.  Like you said, need to learn.  Don't hesitate to play some lower

tiers.

 

Perhaps trying playing with some better players who are willing to offer advice.  

"Perhaps trying playing with some better players who are willing to offer advice.  "  advice there is golden.  finding such is like finding a diamond though, difficult to find but you never let go once you've found one. :)



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View PostC257_Tanks, on Nov 16 2020 - 11:00, said:

"Perhaps trying playing with some better players who are willing to offer advice.  "  advice there is golden.  finding such is like finding a diamond though, difficult to find but you never let go once you've found one. :)

Oh and PS.  The Bishop is a lot different to play with its shorter range but a more controllable "drop rate" (my name for it). If you want a real shot at hitting a target just past a wall, the Bishop is your best bet (if the target is in the Bishop's range).  But I got tired of getting told 2-3 times a game to "fall back" from players who don't understand the Bishop. 



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View Post__WarChild__, on Nov 15 2020 - 19:24, said:

Not going to lie, XVM is not for everyone.  Only a few of us know how to use and not abuse it.  The main point of this game is to have fun though.

 

I made this post to make folks like you feel better OP:

 

http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/636751-warchild-matchmaker-determines-winslosses/

 

Happy Tanking!

 

__WarChild__


Thank you!   I like the post you linked too as well.



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You're the reason your teams have so many losses.

C257_Tanks #32 Posted Nov 16 2020 - 21:04

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View PostLightningBobCC, on Nov 16 2020 - 12:56, said:

You're the reason your teams have so many losses.


Of course it is.  The same way the best of you ran down the crack of your momma's [edited]and left a brown stain on the mattress.



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View PostChaseR392, on Nov 15 2020 - 20:37, said:

I see another new player that started out so upbeat and positive...

 

    .... and then installed XVM. Seriously... uninstall that garbage. It literally has no use the average player except maybe being able to tell the salty 41% player on their team where they can shove their opinion during the battle.

 

A quick peek at your stats, OP, and I agree with the previous statements... you are advancing up the tiers much too quickly. If you are playing Tiers 6-8 with stock tanks, no equipment, and bad crews you are gonna get wrecked.... plain and simple. I'm not sure what tiers you were playing for your 12% winrate... but if you are averaging less than a shot of damage per battle then it may not be "all your fault".... but you are certainly making a contribution.


In most categories I have indeed moved up too fast.  And I need to stop that.  By the way, WOT very much encourages that with the joining packages and the rentals they off. But yes I have moved up too fast.

 

For those who said my win rate is ALL my fault, bite it. At the outset I knowledge that my skills need massive improvement at the outset.  If any of those types are actually smart enough to understand what the quip "adding insult to injury" actually means, you'd understand.  My skills are, at times embarrassing, yes.  But MM adds insult to my poor play.  After all, as I've heard Claus point out a number of times, WOT makes more money the quicker individual battl3es finish. It's his DPM theory that they have algorithms for the purpose of getting games to finish quickly.  Long drawn out games over time, make less money, a lot less.

 

To those who have offered helpful advice and constructive criticism - I can't thank you enough.  You folks (which have been 75% of the responses) are the backbone of what a good gaming community is and can be.  I both sincerely thank you and admire the skills you've accumulated while playing this game.



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View PostRundog, on Nov 16 2020 - 07:34, said:

A fixation on stats does not improve enjoyment for most. Knowing the stats of teammates so you can decide right from the start how bad they might be, does not improve enjoyment.

 

I suggest removing XVM, not checking stats for a while and playing tanks you enjoy.


Solid advice to be sure! :)



C257_Tanks #35 Posted Nov 16 2020 - 21:40

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View PostTobolowsky, on Nov 15 2020 - 17:47, said:

In a small sample size anything can happen.

 

Funny though, I can't recall anyone ever coming on here and complaining that the game is broken because they won too much in the last day or two.

Well we all know nobody would complain about a streak of wins, but sincerely there are times during the very few winning streaks I have had that I do feel less than inadequate. Those are the times when I'm lucky enough to be put with a great team but I under preform individually.  I sincerely feel .. what's the right word here: sorry, sad, inadequacy.....

 

I have to state here than that doesn't always happen when I'm on the winning side, in fact more often than not, when I'm on the winning side I make an average or better than average contribution to the match. But I do recognize that there are times that I'm in the right place at the right time and my team wins.

 

I actually remember a few times I've carried the team.  Oh not often as you can tell from my win rate, but a few times.  Boy that does feel good. Two of them I remember clearly.  One of the two, honestly it was matched like my op, but me and the other SPG had 4k damage with 8 tanks destroyed between us.  Those are the games that stay with you..............



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View PostTobolowsky, on Nov 16 2020 - 00:47, said:

In a small sample size anything can happen.

 

Funny though, I can't recall anyone ever coming on here and complaining that the game is broken because they won too much in the last day or two.

 

 

... and if they did they would just be accused of the humble brag.



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Always amazes me the amount of effort people will go through in an effort to blame something other than themselves for their performance in a computer game.

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View Postgolruul, on Nov 16 2020 - 21:09, said:

Always amazes me the amount of effort people will go through in an effort to blame something other than themselves for their performance in a computer game.

 

Spend a day on the forums and you will see it over and over. I am much more surprised when someone posts and is taking responsibility for their own performance.

 

To be fair that could be confirmation/negativity bias on my end.



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View PostMarkd73, on Nov 16 2020 - 16:24, said:

 

Spend a day on the forums and you will see it over and over. I am much more surprised when someone posts and is taking responsibility for their own performance.

 

To be fair that could be confirmation/negativity bias on my end.


Which I did. (taking responsibility, and if you don't see that, you're not reading my posts in their entirety)  To boil my post down it simply says I need to improve a LOT, but MM isn't making it any easier. Period.



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View PostC257_Tanks, on Nov 16 2020 - 17:00, said:


Which I did. (taking responsibility, and if you don't see that, you're not reading my posts in their entirety)  To boil my post down it simply says I need to improve a LOT, but MM isn't making it any easier. Period.

And rightfully so, it shouldn't make it easier. The game is suppose to be challenging. That's what keeps us all coming back for more and more. If it was easy mode. The game would of died years ago. Everybody likes win streaks, and we all get them. But its how you handle the days when the going gets tough, and you still figure out a way to win at least some of those games.







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